'The Country Was Thriving': Joe Rogan Says That 'More Things Were Getting Done' When Donald Trump Was President — Unemployment Was Down, Regulations Relaxed. Is He Right?

[mania]

Just now, ozimoron said:

What has that got to do with podcasters?

You are  podcast ????

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, mania said:

You are  podcast ????

Hilarious. I can't stop laughing. Is the dope shop open already? Asking for a friend.

Edited September 24, 2023 by ozimoron

[Time Traveller]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

He might seem to you to be apolitical but his message is decidedly right wing. He appeals to way more people on the right than the left.

You must be extreme leftist if you think Joe Rogan is right wing. 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Time Traveller said:

You must be extreme leftist if you think Joe Rogan is right wing. 

Again, who are his fans?

[bignok]

8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

One American lives near me in Chiang Mai is convinced the podcast he follows is fact checked before release (fact checked by who - never any response).

He's right now telling all that the Ukraine president is a fake cut out and is leading Ukraine into communism). Plus Putin is admired by 90% of Americans and ready to support trump in next US elections.

Also tells all his podcast says all americans will soon rise up and assassinate biden, obama, and mark miley.

Magic mushrooms?

[PassportBro]

6 minutes ago, mania said:

Asks the guy with 34   36 posts in this topic alone?

You've been on this forum 2 years yet have over 15,000 posts

All those posts mean nothing if they're not on point and economically, socially, politically astute. Just jibber jabber

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Magic mushrooms?

Bit stronger perhaps. I think acid.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Again, who are his fans?

Very diverse

Fight fans

Fitness types

People who like proper interviews

2 hour interviews not 5 mins

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, PassportBro said:

All those posts mean nothing if they're not on point and economically, socially, politically astute. Just jibber jabber

What's that on your back? Oh, it's a ticket.

[PassportBro]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Again, who are his fans?

I think this misses the point entirely.

 

In general JR doesn't discuss or entertain points of view that would be appealing to today's Left. That doesn't mean JR is 'right wing'.

 

He also doesn't do exclusively political topics I gather so if the Left had any interest beyond free money and homosexuality they could find some topics interesting. Yet, they only seek the sound of their own shrill voices.

 

The logic fails.

 

TBH I've never listened to his podcasts (caught bits on yt) but his COVID 19 guests were excellent.

 

If you only care about free money, homosexuality that's gonna be a limited world. Don't blame Joe.

[Time Traveller]

16 minutes ago, mania said:

Asks the guy with 34   36 posts in this topic alone?

You've been on this forum 2 years yet have over 15,000 posts

Kind of sad isn't it?   It's obvious ozimoron 's entire life is spent online trolling people and has no understanding at all of the real world.

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44 minutes ago, PassportBro said:

The economy? What a catastrophe.

 

Military on the border? Nonexistent. This is just a lie lol.

 

NATO as feeble as ever.

 

CHIPS - yesterday's war

 

Biden has nothing to do with strength of dollar.

 

These were all entirely weak. Please try again. I realize you need to grasp at straws but do aim higher

Anybody spot the doublethink here. The economy is a catastrophe? Really? Not even close to true. The US is leading the F\& and most developed nations in its recovery and in battling inflation. Unemployment is at historically low levels. But apparently when worldwide inflation followed the covid pandemic, that was Biden's fault.

But if the dollar is strong, he gets no credit.

As for NATO being feeble as ever, tell that to Finland and Sweden.

 

For someone who claims such lofty academic credentials, you seem remarkably unfamiliar with the practice of backing up assertions with actual evidence.

[PassportBro]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

Comparing Joe to real journalists is like comparing slow pitch to MLB.

JR is no journalist but I'm just dying to know...

 

Real journalists...

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, Time Traveller said:

Kind of sad isn't it?   It's obvious ozimoron 's entire life is spent online trolling people and has no understanding at all of the real world.

You make that sound like a bad thing.

[bignok]

5 minutes ago, PassportBro said:

JR is no journalist but I'm just dying to know...

 

Real journalists...

Real journos interupt guests and force their views onto others 5555

 

Rogan is 100x better than most journos

 

Rich Roll is another good podcaster

 

[PassportBro]

555 this is such a whiny, low IQ thread. Asseannow has now come to this. A sad ending. Think of how epic it was in late 90s. It's a microcosm of of own dysfunctional countries and economies I suppose.

 

The notion that western economies are in anything but the toilet is nothing short of a lie.

 

Imagine Biden will be running ???? on the economy ????

[ozimoron]

Just now, PassportBro said:

555 this is such a whiny, low IQ thread. Asseannow has now come to this. A sad ending. Think of how epic it was in late 90s. It's a microcosm of of own dysfunctional countries and economies I suppose.

 

The notion that western economies are in anything but the toilet is nothing short of a lie.

 

Imagine Biden will be running ???? on the economy ????

We wish we all had your IQ. God wasn't kind to some of us.

[johnnybangkok]

I like Joe Rogan and listen/watch to his podcasts all the time. He's pretty entertaining and has some interesting guests. I don't think he's particulalrly right-wing (although a lot of his audience are) and he has got into trouble in the past regarding covid and vaccinations (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/02/joe-rogan-covid-vaccine-misinformation/622040/) which he eventually had to backtrack on.

He gives his OPINION and this is nothing more than that. If you looked at Trumps first couple of years you could quite easily argue he was riding the coat-tails of Obama who left a VERY healthy economy (https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/) after possibly the largest financial meltdown in history (under a GOP government I may add). 

My issue with JR's take on this is the cherry picking. Trump was in power for 4 years and all JR is talking about is his first 2 years. That's a bit disingenuous as although Covid wasn't Trumps fault, many could argue he handled it dreadfully both in terms of health (largest number of deaths) and economically, adding more than any other POTUS to the national debt ($8 trillion overall but a large chunk BEFORE covid for his stupid tax cuts for the wealthy). His deregulation may have pleased business but it did very little for the protection of the environment and I certainly don't agree that 'the intelligence agencies colluding to keep a guy from being president........' Trump seems to have done a very good job of doing this to himself.

Obviously the Trump devotees on here won't see it that way but these are FACTS not opinions so if you do want to counter, please try and do it with some facts of your own (I'm not holding my breath).  

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

How long do you think it took Putin to mobilize for that 2020 invasion? Putin anticipated that Trump would get a second term and had committed himself long before the election was lost. Putin l;aunched that invasion BECAUSE he thought Trump would destroy NATO for him and veto help for Ukraine. Trump had form in that direction.

What a pile. 

 

That invasion was in 2022 but the Donbas had been partially occupied since at least 2014, with frequent fighting. Putin had massed a further 100k extra troops near the Ukrainian border by late 2021, right after the calamitous US departure from Afghanistan. Let's go Brandon! 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, PassportBro said:

Biden's good side?

 

His accomplishments thus far please?

You could look it up. 

If you don't know anything good that he did, then obviously you don't want to know.

And the same would be the other way around with Trump.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Imagining that Trump prevented Putin from invading Ukraine is farcical.

It's factual.

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What a pile. 

 

That invasion was in 2022 but the Donbas had been partially occupied since at least 2014, with frequent fighting. Putin had massed a further 100k extra troops near the Ukrainian border by late 2021, right after the calamitous US departure from Afghanistan. Let's go Brandon! 

 

Actually, the US began its final withdrawal from Afghanistan on Feb 20, 2020. Huge concessions were made to the Taliiban. Their transgressions met with little response.

 

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

Rogan has lived a life. The triggered lefties done nothing except complain. 

 

In 10 years time, still complaining.

I used to like Fear Factor with them spiders and smelly jelly. ????

Edited September 24, 2023 by nauseus

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5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It's factual.

Share with us these facts.

 

[nauseus]

Just now, placeholder said:

Actually, the US began its final withdrawal from Afghanistan on Feb 20, 2020. Huge concessions were made to the Taliiban. Their transgressions met with little response.

 

Not my point but you probably knew that.

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6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

You could look it up. 

If you don't know anything good that he did, then obviously you don't want to know.

And the same would be the other way around with Trump.

Well, there was some prison criminal reform under a bill signed by Trump. (Which he now regrets signing) Got anything else to offer?

[nauseus]

Just now, placeholder said:

Share with us these facts.

 

Trump term = no invasion of Ukraine.

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1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Not my point but you probably knew that.

You've got a knack for saying what your point is not, but not so much for what it is.

[ozimoron]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What a pile. 

 

That invasion was in 2022 but the Donbas had been partially occupied since at least 2014, with frequent fighting. Putin had massed a further 100k extra troops near the Ukrainian border by late 2021, right after the calamitous US departure from Afghanistan. Let's go Brandon! 

 

I'm not referring to the Donbas invasion, only the recent invasion. It was long planned.

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1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Trump term = no invasion of Ukraine.

There's a logical fallacy called Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. It's Latin for "after this, therefore because of this.". You've just offered an example.