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56 minutes ago, rabas said:

Been reported on propaganda social media for a few days now. All fake images. 

 

I feel well that you don't have a clue. 

 There have been many fake accusations of the IDF using white phosphorus, most are videos and images from the Ukraine war. These have been posted on social media since almost the first day.

 

There is now a claim from Human Rights Watch who says they confirmed a video of one use in Gaza with 2 or 3 artillery shells, on a seaside location. The announcement comes from the Beirut office. The images are clear but the video elusive.  LINK

 

Israel has denied the HRC claim. LINK

 

Edit: the HRW's two videos come from X social media. Link to HRW analysis page.  Such claims need verification in war time.

 

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30 minutes ago, rabas said:

 There have been many fake accusations of the IDF using white phosphorus, most are videos and images from the Ukraine war. These have been posted on social media since almost the first day.

 

There is now a claim from Human Rights Watch who says they confirmed a video of one use in Gaza with 2 or 3 artillery shells, on a seaside location. The announcement comes from the Beirut office. The images are clear but the video elusive.  LINK

 

Israel has denied the HRC claim. LINK

 

Edit: the HRW's two videos come from X social media. Link to HRW analysis page.  Such claims need verification in war time.

 

I have seen an image of Israeli use of white phosphorus that seems reasonably real. But, it's clearly for use for illumination or marking a target.

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35 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

What's your opinion on the Hamas acts of terror in Israel?

Any killing is sad.  Im really not that opinionated on this topic.   My only real  skin in this conflict is my tax dollars and possibly WW3.  

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1 hour ago, rabas said:

 There have been many fake accusations of the IDF using white phosphorus, most are videos and images from the Ukraine war. These have been posted on social media since almost the first day.

 

There is now a claim from Human Rights Watch who says they confirmed a video of one use in Gaza with 2 or 3 artillery shells, on a seaside location. The announcement comes from the Beirut office. The images are clear but the video elusive.  LINK

 

Israel has denied the HRC claim. LINK

 

Edit: the HRW's two videos come from X social media. Link to HRW analysis page.  Such claims need verification in war time.

 

Israel has used white phosphorus before, particularly during the 2008-2009 Operation Cast Lead.

 

The Israel Defense Forces fired at least three white phosphorus shells above this UN-run school in Beit Lahiya on January 17, 2009, killing two and wounding 14. The school was housing about 1,600 displaced persons at the time.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza

 

Israel admits troops may have used phosphorus shells in Gaza
Amnesty warns Israel could be guilty of war crimes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/21/gaza-phosphorus-shells

 

A decade ago today, Israel launched “Operation Cast Lead” against the Gaza Strip. The military campaign took the lives of some 1,400 Palestinians, including more than three hundred children.

https://jacobin.com/2018/12/operation-cast-lead-ten-year-anniversary-israel-occupation

 

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44 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

What's your opinion on the Hamas acts of terror in Israel?

Whats your opinion on the bulldozers razing Palestinians houses  for expansion of Israel settlements? And all the seemingly over reaction shootings over the years of Palestinians? 

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1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

If you are American, then your tax dollars have been used to wage Israel's wars for decades.

There are American dead and American hostages. 

 

The USA gets its money worth out of Israel. Ask any Fighter pilot.

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14 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

The warships are more a precautionary deterrent for other troublemaking parties in the region wanting to widen the conflict. 

2 airfields have been bombed by IAF this week...Aleppo + Damascus

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syria-state-tv-says-israeli-attack-targets-aleppo-damascus-airports-2023-10-12/

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What is your opinion on European settlers  taking over American Indian land and calling it the USA ?

It was a historical crime that consisted of genocide and land theft.

 

Can you think of a current situation that is a crime consisting of genocide and land theft?

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Image and information  from "The Times" Center is Rut Perez who has muscular dystrophy, she is unable to walk or talk and is entirely reliant on her family to feed her through a tube …. She was abducted by the terrorists of the Palestinian Government, and was taken to Gaza.

 

It is difficult for any normal human being to imagine that another human being on this planet could be so devoid of any humanity as to carry out an act of such extreme cruelty.

 

No doubt one of the Hamas apologists on here will justify this cruelty with some form of whataboutery.

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2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Well of course they will prevail, the mismatch between them and the Palestinians is enormous.

 

Slaughtering fish in a barrel is nothing to be proud of.

Hamas seems pretty proud of the attack on Israel. Lot of Gazans celebrating. Same in the West Bank.

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45 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Image and information  from "The Times" Center is Rut Perez who has muscular dystrophy, she is unable to walk or talk and is entirely reliant on her family to feed her through a tube …. She was abducted by the terrorists of the Palestinian Government, and was taken to Gaza.

 

It is difficult for any normal human being to imagine that another human being on this planet could be so devoid of any humanity as to carry out an act of such extreme cruelty.

 

No doubt one of the Hamas apologists on here will justify this cruelty with some form of whataboutery.

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A pity you don't see the difference between explaining and apologizing.

But what else to expect from someone who sees all criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism.

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