ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The director of the New York office of the UN high commissioner for human rights has left his post, protesting that the UN is “failing” in its duty to prevent what he categorizes as genocide of Palestinian civilians in Gaza under Israeli bombardment and citing the US, UK and much of Europe as “wholly complicit in the horrific assault”.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/un-official-resigns-israel-hamas-war-palestine-new-york

 

 

 

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

Woke Marxist gobbledegook from some suckhole faceless apparatchik working for one of the most useless organizations ever created. 

 

Like anyone other than an antisemitic terrosit supporter cares what they say. Surrender or die, scumbags.

[BarraMarra]

As the IDF begins clearing the terrorists in Gaza the bulldozers should move in behind the troops bulldozing what is left and stopping the Rats from infesting the buildings left after the citizens have left and any tunnels they discover permanently seal them with explosives.  

[Bkk Brian]

More sick under duress hostage videos released by the terrorists, an elderly woman and a 13 year old child. Said they prepared to release a 77-year-old woman and a 13-year-old boy for humanitarian and medical reasons, but only if "appropriate measures" were met. Source BBC

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The director of the New York office of the UN high commissioner for human rights has left his post, protesting that the UN is “failing” in its duty to prevent what he categorizes as genocide of Palestinian civilians in Gaza under Israeli bombardment and citing the US, UK and much of Europe as “wholly complicit in the horrific assault”.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/un-official-resigns-israel-hamas-war-palestine-new-york

 

 

 

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

Exposed: Top UN Human Rights Official’s Hatred of Israel

Yet when it comes to attitudes toward Israel, it is clear that the antipathy of the council is matched by that of many in the OHCHR bureaucracy.

A case in point is Craig Mokhiber, who holds the influential position of Director of the New York Office of the OHCHR, and who has served in various capacities at the United Nations since 1992. Mokhiber has played a key role in the UN human rights system over three decades. Yet his long history of publishing virulently anti-Israel statements makes him unfit for a role as a leading UN official, let alone for its human rights office.

According to the UN Charter, staff must be held to the highest standards of “integrity.” Such standards include fairness and impartiality in conducting one’s work. Yet top UN human rights official Mokhiber has committed gross and systematic violations of his duty of impartiality.

https://unwatch.org/exposed-top-human-rights-official-craig-mokhiber-deep-seated-anti-israel-bias/

[Yellowtail]

8 hours ago, Morch said:

 

I doubt Iran will support their lavish lifestyle. Hezbollah officials and fans already had a go at them over that. But either way, they have more than enough already, unless the USA manages to take it away or freeze it. Not a remote possibility.

The US will likely let them claim asylum, and they'll be teaching at Yale or Harvard inside of ten years. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

8 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The director of the New York office of the UN high commissioner for human rights has left his post, protesting that the UN is “failing” in its duty to prevent what he categorizes as genocide of Palestinian civilians in Gaza under Israeli bombardment and citing the US, UK and much of Europe as “wholly complicit in the horrific assault”.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/un-official-resigns-israel-hamas-war-palestine-new-york

 

 

 

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

 

Great story; confirmed antisemite Craig Mokhiber resigns from anti-Israeli UN for them not being anti-Israeli enough for his liking.

 

This would be the same UN that recently appointed Ali Bahreini, Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran to serve as chairman of the UN Human Rights Council’s 2023 Social Forum, causing outrage in Human rights organisations throughout the world; something Craig didn’t seem to have a problem with, despite the Iranian government having slaughtered thousands of its own people recently, mostly women, for either not wearing their hijab correctly, or for having been raped.

 

 

[Yagoda]

Not that this makes any difference to the anti-semitic and anti-american terrorist supporters here (a banner which they should wear proudly if they truly believed it themselves or were willing to stand proud despite the moral opprobriam their thoughts deserve), but I thought some of the more reasonable posters here would find this interesting.

 

Its nice to see that the brutally oppressed Arab 2nd class citizens of the colonialist, fascist, neo-nazi Zionist apartheid illegitimate US Jew puppet state occupiers of Palestine have a voice.

 

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/from-the-river-to-the-sea-arab-citizens-of-israel-say-no-thanks-to-liberation/

[transam]

I don't think I have ever seen Piers Morgan stuck for words. This full interview on the ground in Israel/Gaza is a must watch if you haven't seen it ALL before, from a reporter that has been everywhere and tells it as it is, and I congratulate Douglas for a completely frank and honest report......

You must watch it till the end.

Neeranam, watch it 3 times, so it sinks in....

 

 

[Rimmer]

Off topic troll posts about Julian Assange have been removed Please see our Community Standards

[Bkk Brian]

19 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't think I have ever seen Piers Morgan stuck for words. This full interview on the ground in Israel/Gaza is a must watch if you haven't seen it ALL before, from a reporter that has been everywhere and tells it as it is, and I congratulate Douglas for a completely frank and honest report......

You must watch it till the end.

Neeranam, watch it 3 times, so it sinks in....

 

 

Thanks for that @transam I saw an edited clip of that but watching the full ten minutes really drives home the powerful message by that reporter who is one of the few who was given access to the unedited clips of the atrocities committed by Hamas. Horrific acts of murderous brutality carried out with glee by Hamas and the appalling acts by Palestinian onlookers in Gaza when bodies of those taken from Israel were brought in. A lot of good insight from him on how Israel has been left to this alone (Gaza) while the likes of Egypt and Jordan watch from the sidelines with no intervention to help.

[Neeranam]

From the resignation letter of the Director of the New York Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights

 

As a human rights lawyer with more than three decades of experience in the field, I know well that the concept of genocide has often been subject to political abuse. But the current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist settler colonial ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs, and coupled with explicit statements of intent by leaders in the Israeli government and military, leaves no room for doubt or debate.

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24103463-craig-mokhiber-resignation-letter

[Eloquent pilgrim]

32 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't think I have ever seen Piers Morgan stuck for words. This full interview on the ground in Israel/Gaza is a must watch if you haven't seen it ALL before, from a reporter that has been everywhere and tells it as it is, and I congratulate Douglas for a completely frank and honest report......

You must watch it till the end.

Neeranam, watch it 3 times, so it sinks in....

 

 

 

Thanks, hadn’t seen it before; great insight, clearly articulated by one of the most intelligent and balanced human beings on planet earth. The world could do with a lot more people like Douglas Murray.

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

From the resignation letter of the Director of the New York Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights

 

As a human rights lawyer with more than three decades of experience in the field, I know well that the concept of genocide has often been subject to political abuse. But the current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist settler colonial ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs, and coupled with explicit statements of intent by leaders in the Israeli government and military, leaves no room for doubt or debate.

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24103463-craig-mokhiber-resignation-letter

Rubbish:

 

In addition to his anti-Israel statements and actions within his official capacity, Mokhiber’s social media presence demonstrates that he is not able to fulfill his mandate objectively. The consistent use of hate-mongering rhetoric by a senior official of Mokhiber’s stature normalizes anti-Israel sentiments across the UN human rights system. The posts, therefore, constitute a violation of his obligations to the UN.

https://unwatch.org/exposed-top-human-rights-official-craig-mokhiber-deep-seated-anti-israel-bias/

[Celsius]

Nukem....you'll thank me laterz

 

 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Great story; confirmed antisemite Craig Mokhiber resigns from anti-Israeli UN for them not being anti-Israeli enough for his liking.

 

This would be the same UN that recently appointed Ali Bahreini, Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran to serve as chairman of the UN Human Rights Council’s 2023 Social Forum, causing outrage in Human rights organisations throughout the world; something Craig didn’t seem to have a problem with, despite the Iranian government having slaughtered thousands of its own people recently, mostly women, for either not wearing their hijab correctly, or for having been raped.

 

 

Interesting you call the UN 'anti-Israel', yet in your flame against me, you say 'antisemitic'.

[Neeranam]

48 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Rubbish:

 

In addition to his anti-Israel statements and actions within his official capacity, Mokhiber’s social media presence demonstrates that he is not able to fulfill his mandate objectively. The consistent use of hate-mongering rhetoric by a senior official of Mokhiber’s stature normalizes anti-Israel sentiments across the UN human rights system. The posts, therefore, constitute a violation of his obligations to the UN.

https://unwatch.org/exposed-top-human-rights-official-craig-mokhiber-deep-seated-anti-israel-bias/

Interesting you call the him 'anti-Israel', yet in your flame against me, you say 'antisemitic'.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting you call the him 'anti-Israel', yet in your flame against me, you say 'antisemitic'.

Interesting. I didn't call him anti Israel, the article did......lol

 

 

[Neeranam]

19 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I believe the Thread should now be locked it is not a debate any longer it was Hijacked many pages ago and no longer debate instead MOJO is now calling posters Dumb and its turned out to a slanging match lately we have seen the thread locked a member was banned others warned for sending links not allowed on several occasions but they carried on using them. When someone tried to get the thread back on Topic it was ignored all they wanted to post was how many kids were being pulled from the rubble constantly. So for me the Topic is finished. Maybe a new Tpoic can be made debating the Ground offence that has begun now the IDF is on the ground in Gaza as for this thread in my opinion its over.

I was shocked, like others, when Oct 7 happened and my Islamophobia rose to the surface. As the war continues, people are realizing that Israel are commiting genocide and I can't handle all the antisemitic people asking me difficult questions. Therefore, I would like the thread closed as I am looking more and more like an Islamophobe. Much more convenient to lock the thread and save me more embarassment. I've tried my utmost to report all those who have anything to say against Israel's Apartheid system or the Genocied they are committing but there are still a few left. Maybe a new topic that doesn't give them the opportuity to ask me questions I can't answer.

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

I was shocked, like others, when Oct 7 happened and my Islamophobia rose to the surface. As the war continues, people are realizing that Israel are commiting genocide and I can't handle all the antisemitic people asking me difficult questions. Therefore, I would like the thread closed as I am looking more and more like an Islamophobe. Much more convenient to lock the thread and save me more embarassment. I've tried my utmost to report all those who have anything to say against Israel's Apartheid system or the Genocied they are committing but there are still a few left. Maybe a new topic that doesn't give them the opportuity to ask me questions I can't answer.

You are lying as per usual, show proof that Israel is committing genocide, hint:- you cannot because they are not, it is Hamas that commits genocide by using their own people as human shields, but you already know this but always nice to troll.

[Morch]

12 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The director of the New York office of the UN high commissioner for human rights has left his post, protesting that the UN is “failing” in its duty to prevent what he categorizes as genocide of Palestinian civilians in Gaza under Israeli bombardment and citing the US, UK and much of Europe as “wholly complicit in the horrific assault”.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/un-official-resigns-israel-hamas-war-palestine-new-york

 

 

 

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

 

Posting such nonsense is what happens when putting half the participants on 'ignore' then not being aware of certain related things.

[Morch]

11 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

As the IDF begins clearing the terrorists in Gaza the bulldozers should move in behind the troops bulldozing what is left and stopping the Rats from infesting the buildings left after the citizens have left and any tunnels they discover permanently seal them with explosives.  

 

Them bulldozers, at least the heavily modified versions used, often move ahead or in tandem with the troops, clearing rubble that could hide nearby ambush spots, take care of mines and other explosive devices left by Hamas. Also clear paths for other vehicles. In Gaza, they are used to clear opening for tunnels rather than seal them.

[Morch]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The US will likely let them claim asylum, and they'll be teaching at Yale or Harvard inside of ten years. 

 

Nonsense. As far as I'm aware, all are on the wanted list, or designated as terrorists, anyway.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting you call the UN 'anti-Israel', yet in your flame against me, you say 'antisemitic'.

 

   This thread isn't all about you and whether you are Anti sematic or nor and this thread isn't about how many friends that you have got .

   Israel are at war with Hamas and you are NOT the main character  in a movie

Latest movie release : October 7th  , "Hamas V Israel" Starring Neeranam

This thread and war isn't all about you 

[Bkk Brian]

Latest update from IDF just 30 mins old. Only 10 mins length, worth a look, also talks about the Hamas terrorists in Gaza with footage of them with guns and in civilian clothes, what happens to the Hamas run health authority death figures when they are released daily yet don't separate out the terrorists that have been killed.

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting you call the UN 'anti-Israel', yet in your flame against me, you say 'antisemitic'.

 

Oh, hello, it’s none-other than Mr Neeranam. I see you’ve come charging out of the isolation ward, throwing that naughty “A” word around like confetti again. FYI, I called the pointless dysfunctional organisation, the UN, anti-Israeli, which they are, and have been for many years. I called the repugnant, disingenuous, reprehensible, reprobate, Craig Mokhiber an antisemite, which he is.

 

It is nothing whatsoever to do with you what I call them, so why don’t you move on up to the back of the bus, open your latest copy of Al Jazeera, and continue shouting ill informed anti-Israeli student slogans, and sensationalist cliches; you know it’s what you do best.

 

P.S. you forgot to say that you couldn’t possibly be antisemitic because one of your best friends is a rabbit  …… time to put me back on ignore ??

 

[xylophone]

Forgive me for going off the current trend of posts, but something I read in my local newspaper triggered a few neurons!

 

I did post very early on on this thread, but pulled out because other posters knew a lot more about the background to this than I did, so I watched and learned.

 

The other evening I was watching the BBC World News and on it Lyse Doucet (BBC reporter) was interviewing a Palestinian representative and he was ranting and raving about children, adults, innocents being killed by the Israelis, and she couldn't get a word in edgeways to question him, which was what I was waiting for, because the question I would have loved her to have asked this person was: – "well what did you think Israel's response would be after the massacre of 1400 innocent people?".

 

I would have loved to have heard his response, but then I will attach what I read this morning and it makes for sobering/alarming reading......... 

 

As Hamas stormed through a swath of southern Israel, it killed and captured more soldiers and civilians than it expected to, officials said.

 

The assault was so devastating that it served one of the plotters’ main objectives: It broke a long-standing tension within Hamas about the group’s identity and purpose. Was it mainly a governing body — responsible for managing day-to-day life in the blockaded Gaza Strip — or was it still fundamentally an armed force, unrelentingly committed to destroying Israel and replacing it with an Islamist Palestinian state?

 

The prospect of Israel’s normalising ties with Saudi Arabia, long a deep-pocketed patron of the Palestinian cause, appeared closer than ever.

Then, on a quiet Saturday morning, Hamas attacked.

 

“What could change the equation was a great act, and without a doubt, it was known that the reaction to this great act would be big,” al-Hayya said.

 

But, he added, “We had to tell people that the Palestinian cause would not die.”

 

It was clear in advance that Israel would respond by bombarding Gaza, killing Palestinian civilians.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/israel-hamas-war-behind-hamas-bloody-gambit-to-create-a-permanent-state-of-war

 

So Hamas was prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of Palestinian lives to reaffirm its "identity and purpose". Unbelievable.

 

[Jingthing]

32 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Forgive me for going off the current trend of posts, but something I read in my local newspaper triggered a few neurons!

 

I did post very early on on this thread, but pulled out because other posters knew a lot more about the background to this than I did, so I watched and learned.

 

The other evening I was watching the BBC World News and on it Lyse Doucet (BBC reporter) was interviewing a Palestinian representative and he was ranting and raving about children, adults, innocents being killed by the Israelis, and she couldn't get a word in edgeways to question him, which was what I was waiting for, because the question I would have loved her to have asked this person was: – "well what did you think Israel's response would be after the massacre of 1400 innocent people?".

 

I would have loved to have heard his response, but then I will attach what I read this morning and it makes for sobering/alarming reading......... 

 

As Hamas stormed through a swath of southern Israel, it killed and captured more soldiers and civilians than it expected to, officials said.

 

The assault was so devastating that it served one of the plotters’ main objectives: It broke a long-standing tension within Hamas about the group’s identity and purpose. Was it mainly a governing body — responsible for managing day-to-day life in the blockaded Gaza Strip — or was it still fundamentally an armed force, unrelentingly committed to destroying Israel and replacing it with an Islamist Palestinian state?

 

The prospect of Israel’s normalising ties with Saudi Arabia, long a deep-pocketed patron of the Palestinian cause, appeared closer than ever.

Then, on a quiet Saturday morning, Hamas attacked.

 

“What could change the equation was a great act, and without a doubt, it was known that the reaction to this great act would be big,” al-Hayya said.

 

But, he added, “We had to tell people that the Palestinian cause would not die.”

 

It was clear in advance that Israel would respond by bombarding Gaza, killing Palestinian civilians.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/israel-hamas-war-behind-hamas-bloody-gambit-to-create-a-permanent-state-of-war

 

So Hamas was prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of Palestinian lives to reaffirm its "identity and purpose". Unbelievable.

 

More like totally predictable.

The IDF cares A LOT more about the lives of Gazan civilians than Hamas does.

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

42 minutes ago, xylophone said:

So Hamas was prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of Palestinian lives to reaffirm its "identity and purpose". Unbelievable.

 

It was ever thus

[Neeranam]

42 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

It is nothing whatsoever to do with you what I call them, so why don’t you move on up to the back of the bus, open your latest copy of Al Jazeera, and continue shouting ill informed anti-Israeli student slogans, and sensationalist cliches; you know it’s what you do best.

 

P.S. you forgot to say that you couldn’t possibly be antisemitic because one of your best friends is a rabbit  …… time to put me back on ignore ??

It is most certainly to do with me if you call me a racist or antisemite.

 

I am not antisemitic and I find it strange how you continue to call me that.

 

I believe in forgiveness and giving people a second chance, so one more time, please quote anything that I've said in this thread that suggests I don't like Jewish people. Really, if there is any ounce of truth, I'd like to address it. 

 

I have a spiritual advisor, who happens to be a Rabbi, why do you say 'rabbit' ?

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

It is most certainly to do with me if you call me a racist or antisemite.

 

I am not antisemitic and I find it strange how you continue to call me that.

 

I believe in forgiveness and giving people a second chance, so one more time, please quote anything that I've said in this thread that suggests I don't like Jewish people. Really, if there is any ounce of truth, I'd like to address it. 

 

I have a spiritual advisor, who happens to be a Rabbi, why do you say 'rabbit' ?

You can't expect anyone to believe you, when you applaud a racist and antisemitic post like Jeffs.