ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Morch]

Detained terrorists admit Hamas using hospitals to shield themselves

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bkrxjhcf6#autoplay

 

Not that there was much doubt about this....

[stevenl]

  On 10/29/2023 at 4:27 AM, Morch said:

 

According to Hamas controlled sources.

There is no indication if this includes Hamas men killed (during or after the 7/10 attack), there's no mention of male age groups.

There's no accounting for naturally occurring deaths as well during the fighting.

 

There's a great lose of life, for sure. Citing Hamas provided figures is a choice, though.

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So is denying the numbers.  Reliable numbers are not available imo, so I don't see a reason to confirm or deny.

[Yagoda]

  On 10/29/2023 at 1:52 AM, 2baht said:

The criminal child killer Netanyahoo must be held to account for his atrocities!

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Your user name adequately describes the worth of that post.

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 5:00 AM, stevenl said:

So is denying the numbers.  Reliable numbers are not available imo, so I don't see a reason to confirm or deny.

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I'm not engaged in wholesale denial of casualty figures. I agree that the dead number in the thousands.

What I disagree with is embracing these figures without addressing obvious questions regarding them.

 

If, for example, these figures include all the Hamas men that died on (or shortly after) the 7/10 attack - that would represent 1500-3000 casualties.

Quite a lot relative to the overall figures offered.

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

  On 10/29/2023 at 5:08 AM, Morch said:

 

I'm not engaged in wholesale denial of casualty figures. I agree that the dead number in the thousands.

What I disagree with is embracing these figures without addressing obvious questions regarding them.

 

If, for example, these figures include all the Hamas men that died on (or shortly after) the 7/10 attack - that would represent 1500-3000 casualties.

Quite a lot relative to the overall figures offered.

 

 

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Historically the number released by Gaza’s Health Authority have been fairly accurate.  In the absence of any other information, it’s probably ok to trust them, though I agree, a better breakdown is needed.

 

They are releasing full names and citizen ID numbers.

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 5:13 AM, JBChiangRai said:

Historically the number released by Gaza’s Health Authority have been fairly accurate.  In the absence of any other information, it’s probably ok to trust them, though I agree, a better breakdown is needed.

 

They are releasing full names and citizen ID numbers.

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They always do this lumping together of casualties, highlighting children and women, much less details on men in fighting age, or Hamas members.

 

So saying 8000 (or whatever) civilians....I think that includes non-civilians as well. Same goes for deaths not directly related to the fighting etc.

 

 

[Rimmer]

An OTT  hate speech and replies have been removed Please see our Community Standards

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 10/28/2023 at 3:50 PM, Wobblybob said:

A quote from the highly intellectual Douglas Murray about the demonstrations in the UK. 

 

"Anyone in any doubt about what those marching today are calling for should know this. There would be peace tomorrow if Hamas laid down its arms. If the Israelis laid down their arms there would be a second Holocaust. The people marching either don't know this, or want it."

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Sounds like this bloke needs his “highly intellectual” status reappraised.

[Wobblybob]

  On 10/29/2023 at 5:53 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Sounds like this bloke needs his “highly intellectual” status reappraised.

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I honestly don't believe he's a fan of terrorists if that's what you mean, then who is.......oh wait.🥴

[Eloquent pilgrim]

  On 10/29/2023 at 5:53 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Sounds like this bloke needs his “highly intellectual” status reappraised.

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If you read his book “The Strange Death Of Europe” you might not think so; however, you won’t find it in the fiction department, so you may not be able to locate it.

[BarraMarra]

Hamas is a cancer that needs removing in one go. Don't remove it a small amount will regrow back again, and eventually kill you.

[BarraMarra]

So Hamas has said they will release all hostages held in Gaza if all Hamas prisoners are released. What about the residents being killed in Gaza? who comes 1st there prisoners or civilians.

[Neeranam]

 Did anyone see the Israel Ambassador to the UN?

Disgraceful - he basically spat in the face of the world, showing they'll destroy Palestine, cut Gaza up and the remaining Palestinians can go and live in the dessert.

[BarraMarra]

As Captain Blackadder would say " Well Chaps it's finally the big One" get ready for the Whirlwind.

[BarraMarra]

Well Well Well look who has turned on Daddy. 

 

 

[BarraMarra]

Spin this 1 Hamas fans this is what Hamas thinks about Palestinian's words from the Son of the leader of Hamas. Confirming Ais is being stolen by Hamas. They don't want a State of Palestine they want an Islamic state worldwide that's there reason.

[Rimmer]

Social media from an unapproved source has been removed

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 10/29/2023 at 6:29 AM, BarraMarra said:

Hamas is a cancer that needs removing in one go. Don't remove it a small amount will regrow back again, and eventually kill you.

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Best to eliminate the cause of the cancer, not just keep cutting out the tumours.

 

Stop stealing land and agree to a Palestinian state and the cancer will disappear forever.

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 7:41 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Best to eliminate the cause of the cancer, not just keep cutting out the tumours.

 

Stop stealing land and agree to a Palestinian state and the cancer will disappear forever.

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The Hamas is not into that. The PA cannot deliver.

Israel's right wingers are not into it. Israel center-left can't deliver either.

 

Your promises that all will be well are not grounded in anything much, least of all reality.

[BarraMarra]

There you have it folks even the Son of the leader of Hamas wants his head on a Platter. supported with video that is allowed. Any anti-Israelis on here want to comment about it or as I expect will be ignored. Due to the indefensible evidence claiming Hamas's true intentions.

[Jingthing]

  On 10/29/2023 at 6:55 AM, Neeranam said:

 Did anyone see the Israel Ambassador to the UN?

Disgraceful - he basically spat in the face of the world, showing they'll destroy Palestine, cut Gaza up and the remaining Palestinians can go and live in the dessert.

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Gross distortion as expected. 

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 8:10 AM, Jingthing said:

Gross distortion as expected. 

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I accept that the Israeli Ambassador to the UN is a manner-less  *ick. That said, not having seen (and not bothered enough to check - he's a has been nobody), no inclined to take @Neeranam's word for it either. Doesn't have much bearing about the OP (or about anything, really).

[JBChiangRai]

This cropped up on my Facebook feed, it was a point @bobbin was making the other day.  

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/DajqdRBgYco?si=aY3MX6nrAa_In_2R

 

[stevenl]

  On 10/29/2023 at 8:10 AM, Jingthing said:

Gross distortion as expected. 

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  On 10/29/2023 at 8:17 AM, Morch said:

 

I accept that the Israeli Ambassador to the UN is a manner-less  *ick. That said, not having seen (and not bothered enough to check - he's a has been nobody), no inclined to take @Neeranam's word for it either. Doesn't have much bearing about the OP (or about anything, really).

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That's 2 answers not saying anything but deflect.

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 10/29/2023 at 7:45 AM, Morch said:

 

The Hamas is not into that. The PA cannot deliver.

Israel's right wingers are not into it. Israel center-left can't deliver either.

 

Your promises that all will be well are not grounded in anything much, least of all reality.

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You’re right, all sides should just keep doing exactly what they have been doing.

 

 

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 8:33 AM, JBChiangRai said:

This cropped up on my Facebook feed, it was a point @bobbin was making the other day.  

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/DajqdRBgYco?si=aY3MX6nrAa_In_2R

 

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Would have been more appropriate to provide a link to a full interview rather than an edited bit. If that lifted from AJ or something?

Also, that's Marc 'river-to-the-sea' Lemont Hill there, so the drama and rudeness are to be expected. Not the most impartial of news hosts etc.

 

To the point - it goes back to people's perceptions of what's allowed vs. what is allowed.

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 10/29/2023 at 7:14 AM, BarraMarra said:

Spin this 1 Hamas fans this is what Hamas thinks about Palestinian's words from the Son of the leader of Hamas. Confirming Ais is being stolen by Hamas. They don't want a State of Palestine they want an Islamic state worldwide that's there reason.

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This post makes no sense.

 

Post a link so we can understand what you’re on about.

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 8:52 AM, stevenl said:

 

That's 2 answers not saying anything but deflect.

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Deflect what? The poster didn't bother linking anything that could be debated. He made a claim bases on something he said he saw. Given his posting history on this topic, no need to take his words for granted. And, if the Israeli Ambassador behaved like an *ss (he often does), how's that news or central to the topic?

 

[JBChiangRai]

  On 10/29/2023 at 8:55 AM, Morch said:

 

Would have been more appropriate to provide a link to a full interview rather than an edited bit. If that lifted from AJ or something?

Also, that's Marc 'river-to-the-sea' Lemont Hill there, so the drama and rudeness are to be expected. Not the most impartial of news hosts etc.

 

To the point - it goes back to people's perceptions of what's allowed vs. what is allowed.

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I think FB only allows snippets, that’s all I saw.

[Morch]

  On 10/29/2023 at 8:58 AM, JBChiangRai said:

I think FB only allows snippets, that’s all I saw.

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Yeah, maybe that's one reason linking social media is frowned upon on news topics...?