ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[MrMojoRisin]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Be so kind as to follow the topic (and parallel ones).

Maybe spend more time actually reading what people post instead of constantly haranguing, moralizing, abusing and deflecting.

As I thought - you have not answered and are afraid or embarrassed to answer.

[Morch]

35 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I worked for a short time as an English teacher in a Muslim school in Bangkok as no Yanks could handle it. This was just after the 9/11 thing. They all had Osama Bin Laden pencil cases etc and shouted 'death to America'. I put them right and explained it should be USA, not America. 

 

Sick troll.

[MrMojoRisin]

Just now, Morch said:

 

Not that I'm aware of.

And even if they did - all are currently not much of a threat.

 

Neither was Hamas until October 7th.

 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

That super computer is currently busy trying to keep track of the rapidly rising right wing legitimate antisemite problem in the good ol US of A.

 

I do believe there were fully uniformed Nazis out and about in Florida not too long ago.

 

What did Trump say - "good people on both sides".

 

🤣🤣🤣

Wow. Five ex cons having the guts to parade their hate openly in a well armed state loaded with armed Jews What a threat.

 

The threat to Jews and indeed, to our Western life comes from the left. Remember it's National Socialism.  And Trump never said that in the context you refer to, typical of your ilk in still repeating that he did.

[Morch]

33 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Hamas did indeed deliberately lure Israel into committing war crimes.

 

We'll see.

 

So once again, Hamas not responsible in your book.

Gotcha.

 

As for the second part, though so.

You keep making up stuff about regional stuff, and can't back it up with anything.

Guess you don't really know a whole lot about that.

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

You have got to be having a laugh,

"All Israel wants is to live in peace without its neighbours trying to wipe them out!"

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-10-28-2023-3348f0544aa6d66b280c8cab1637a3db

Au contraire, I read the liberal based link that you provided and for the life in me what has it got to do with any of my posts, nobody is disputing that Israel is targeting military targets in Gaza, but cast your mind back a couple of weeks and I think you'll find the reason why.

[Neeranam]

Can you imagine living in a place being continually reminded you are a second  class citizen through Apartheid and discriminatory laws. 

I know as a farang in Thailand, but Thailand is better than Israel as they allowed me to become a full citizen. 

[Morch]

35 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Probably not a good example.

Thais have a bad habit of dressing up as Hitler.

 

Ummm.... @Neeranam is Thai, don't give him any ideas.

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. Five ex cons having the guts to parade their hate openly in a well armed state loaded with armed Jews What a threat.

 

The threat to Jews and indeed, to our Western life comes from the left. Remember it's National Socialism.  And Trump never said that in the context you refer to, typical of your ilk in still repeating that he did.

Yeah, it's not like leftist ideas killed anyone in the last 100 years. Just a hundred million people or so. Chump change really...

[Thorgal]

Just now, Morch said:

 

Ummm.... @Neeranam is Thai, don't give him any ideas.

 

No costume needed. 

 

Ordering let's say grilled squid is nowadays enough to be labeled as antisemite...ask Greta Thunberg...

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Let's not introduce confusion - it is a significant MINORITY of Palestinians that support Hamas.

Projecting? I think it's you that's trying to introduce confusion. From your own link, about 30% of Palestinians strongly supported hamas, while only something less than half did not support hamas at all. 

 

So, per your own link, 30% of Palestine strongly support eradicating Israel, 20% of Palestine moderately support eradicating Israel, while less than half do not want to eradicate Israel. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

And a more impressive significant number (i.e. a majority) of Israeli's support"

 

Nearly half of Jewish Israelis want to expel Arabs, survey shows

Pew study finds 79% believe Jews should get preferential treatment over Arab citizens; number of those who believe settlements are helpful to Israel’s security growing;.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/plurality-of-jewish-israelis-want-to-expel-arabs-study-shows/

Now you are equating Israelis that want Arabs expelled from Israel to Palestinians that want all the Jews in Israel exterminated. 

 

Another of your moral equivalencies? 

[MrMojoRisin]

31 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

The Sky Is Falling, Says Poster.

Most definitely.

 

I am a big believer in Lenin's quote "There a decades where nothing happens and weeks in which decades happen".

 

I certainly get the sense the storm clouds are forming. A rising number of right wing demagogues around the globe, democracy under assault, global economic fragility, hot wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, internal population and economic issues in China, the Taiwan issue, an upcoming US presidential election between two geriatrics.....Artificial Intelligence.

[Yellowtail]

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Where was I shown that? 

I'm not lying. 

 

Please try to follow along, MrMojo posted a link. 

[MrMojoRisin]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Projecting? I think it's you that's trying to introduce confusion. From your own link, about 30% of Palestinians strongly supported hamas, while only something less than half did not support hamas at all. 

 

So, per your own link, 30% of Palestine strongly support eradicating Israel, 20% of Palestine moderately support eradicating Israel, while less than half do not want to eradicate Israel. 

 

 

Now you are equating Israelis that want Arabs expelled from Israel to Palestinians that want all the Jews in Israel exterminated. 

 

Another of your moral equivalencies? 

Exactly equivalent, you just need to remove the bias goggles.

[Neeranam]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

 

Please try to follow along, MrMojo posted a link. 

Not to me, stop lying. 

[MrMojoRisin]

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

So once again, Hamas not responsible in your book.

Gotcha.

 

As for the second part, though so.

You keep making up stuff about regional stuff, and can't back it up with anything.

Guess you don't really know a whole lot about that.

 

How have you reached the conclusion that, in my book, Hamas is not responsible.

I have said exactly the opposite of that.

You haven't "got me", you haven't got anything.

Kinda pointless really.

[Jeff the Chef]

7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Au contraire, I read the liberal based link that you provided and for the life in me what has it got to do with any of my posts, nobody is disputing that Israel is targeting military targets in Gaza, but cast your mind back a couple of weeks and I think you'll find the reason why.

Your words,

 

"All Israel wants is to live in peace without its neighbours trying to wipe them out!"

[Morch]

27 minutes ago, deejai33 said:

 

Figures from recent posts say hamas has approx 20,000-45,000 armed militants in Gaza.  Termed the Al-quassam brigades.  Some other smaller groups too.

 

For simple maths, that's 50,000 out of gazan population of 2m.   2.5%.

 

2.5% of the people being bombed in Gaza are Hamas militants.  97.5% are ordinary civilians.

 

I'd call that a very small percentage.  Minimal.  I did not attempt to minimize hamas, as its numbers are minimal already.

 

I understand the problem for Israel wanting to eliminate only the 2.5% of gazans.   Its a big problem.  How to you kill just that 2.5% when 97.5% are civilians.   

 

In my view, the decision bomb and invade gaza to try to kill a selected 2.5% is a bad decision, since many civilians will be killed in the process.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

More inane deflections.

 

Do you know of any country in which the armed forces represent a majority or even a very large part of the population?

It's the same everywhere. All the more so when counting actual combat troops.

 

You'll have to work on your trolling.

[MrMojoRisin]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. Five ex cons having the guts to parade their hate openly in a well armed state loaded with armed Jews What a threat.

 

The threat to Jews and indeed, to our Western life comes from the left. Remember it's National Socialism.  And Trump never said that in the context you refer to, typical of your ilk in still repeating that he did.

You Yanks had a synagogue in Pittsburg shot up by another pro-trump antisemite too didn't ya?

[Yellowtail]

17 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

From what I can tell, there is some international protestors support for Palestine . I don't see those protestors supporting  Palestine doing or saying anything other than rejecting Israel's invasion. I can only therefore surmise Palestine's won't be too friendly towards Israel after Hamas eradicated. Yet again, two ways to look at it depending on which team you're on.

Correct. Per Mr.Mojo's link, about half of Palestinians support hamas' effort to exterminate the Jews in Israel. That's about a million Palestinians that will want to continue killing all the Jews they can, even after hamas is eradicated. 

 

We agree. 

[Morch]

29 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Admit?

Never denied it.

It is their exact aim.

Always explicitly has been.

Israel has constantly been warned that it was Hamas's aim to entice them into committing war crimes.

"He who fights monsters should take care not to become one"

And what did silly Israel do?

 

The only ones who can eradicate Hamas are the Palestinians.

The only thing Israel can achieve is to grow and empower Hamas.

 

 

So why don't they?

I mean the Palestinians.

Eradicate Hamas.

 

On other posts you alleged that's far too dangerous.

Riled against suggestions to that effect.

[deejai33]

9 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

It is beyond ridiculous that you guys constantly act is if all has been explained, answered and resolved "back up topic".

You post nonsense, misrepresent others and avoid like the plague every fact that does not align with your views.

You've answered nothing here and provided zero value, in fact, you've done little more than labelled everyone antisemites and awarded each other meaningless emojis for doing so.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you about a number of contributors here who act as you describe.   And they make many, many one-line posts adding little of value.

 

I keep getting called a troll and accused of hiding my beliefs.  Of writing waffle.  I think I make honest, relevant posts.

 

Others get accused of being anti-semitic.  I don't see that, few people would make an obviously anti-semitic post.

 

Also they'll accuse anyone saying something pro-palestinian of being a hamas supporter.

 

And replying to reasonable questions with gruesome details of the attrocities committed by hamas. But not answering the question.

 

I've got used to it now. Become more thick-skinned.  Interesting to see how this forum operates and how some try to dominate it with one-liners.

 

The forum does have useful links to articles, reports.  Good to see peoples concern.   Just have to filter out the not so useful one-liners.

 

 

[Morch]

30 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Is it an inhumane and dispicable crime?

Was it committed by Israeli's?

Are there barbarians on both sides?

 

There is a difference between individuals carrying out such actions, getting sentenced and punished - and between what Hamas did.

Not complicated.

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

You Yanks had a synagogue in Pittsburg shot up by another pro-trump antisemite too didn't ya?

One of your heroes, you share the same world view about the Jews

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Can you imagine living in a place being continually reminded you are a second  class citizen through Apartheid and discriminatory laws. 

I know as a farang in Thailand, but Thailand is better than Israel as they allowed me to become a full citizen. 

Wait until they read your posts it will probably be rescinded, oh and by the way this topic is not about you!

[MrMojoRisin]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Correct. Per Mr.Mojo's link, about half of Palestinians support hamas' effort to exterminate the Jews in Israel. That's about a million Palestinians that will want to continue killing all the Jews they can, even after hamas is eradicated. 

 

We agree. 

 

How have you got it so wrong so quickly?

You are worse than a bunch of 5 year olds playing Chinese whispers.

 

The survey showed about 12% of respondents had a great deal of trust in Hamas and about 18% had quite a lot of trust in Hamas, the remaining 70% had not a lot and none at all trust in Hamsa and a few no answers.

 

How do you distort that into "half of Palestinians support Hamsa's efforts to exterminate the Jews in Israel"

 

What is the point of typing such easily disprovable lies?

It is a weird process you guys go through.

Type lies and then later on refer "back up topic" to the lies as if they have magically turned into facts.

 

The bar could not be set any lower and you guys still fail to meet it.

Bewildering.

 

 

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas#:~:text=On the eve of Hamas's,percent of the adult population.

[MrMojoRisin]

Just now, Yagoda said:

One of your heroes, you share the same world view about the Jews

Freedumb.

[Morch]

26 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

There is a leaked document.

It could be a fake.

But why would Netanyahu comment on it?

Why would Times of Israel run a pre-emptive story confirming but downplaying the idea?

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ministry-proposes-moving-gazas-civilians-to-north-sinai-a-likely-non-starter/

 

Pre-emptive is something you insinuate.

I have explained earlier, the ministry is a nothing-entity, a political post for rewarding loyalists.

It doesn't come with actual authority, does not partake in anything important.

Netanyahu would comment on it because if won't people would assume there's something to it.

You should really get familiar with Israeli politics before banking on this one as 'it'.

[Morch]

28 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

As I thought - you have not answered and are afraid or embarrassed to answer.

 

No, I'm not your secretary, nor obliged to participate in your shenanigans.

[MrMojoRisin]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

There is a difference between individuals carrying out such actions, getting sentenced and punished - and between what Hamas did.

Not complicated.

If you want to nitpick atrocities to protect those that you agree with, that is up to you and your own moral compass.