ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

“well beyond rationality” ….. what a remarkably benign description of the extermination of 6 million jewish men, women and children …. thanks for not leaving your views beyond any possible doubt

They already weren't but that was icing on the Jew hating cake.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

I apologise!

Was a tongue in cheek rhetorical type of question to you.

Propaganda, Misinformation, Disinformation, Religion and appeasements have created the "perfect storm'.

I apologise!

Was a tongue in cheek rhetorical type of question to you.

 

Well I never would have guessed..........

 

As for your rant on propaganda, I suggest you re read your own posts before making light of people that were actually there collecting the bodies.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

Have fun then https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/legal-framework_en

Liar.

You said in some countries it is illegal to say ANYTHING critical of Israel.

That was a lie.

 

[Lacrimas]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Liar.

You said in some countries it is illegal to say ANYTHING critical of Israel.

That was a lie.

 

So you don't think this law is used to censor any kind of critics towards Israel? You are quite naive. 

[Paul Catton]

8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Did not know you kiwi did not have news broadcast like ccn,al jazeera Hmm normal people look to them for the news or do yoy think its all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda  think you should go bury your head in the sand because you are just making a fool of yourself now

Mike, get a grasp on grammar or lay off the grog.

With regard to unfolding developments in the Middle East. Al Jazeera is first upon my radar, as it current regarding any event, perhaps not always true form. Only ostrich i see, I'm responding to.

 

 

[Morch]

50 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Israel can't miss this opportunity to wipe out their enemy. I know you can never say anything bad about Israel but try to look at both sides. 

You think Israel and Israelis are thrilled going into Gaza? Looking forward to the death toll? Israel's (or, put differently, Netanyahu's) strategy up to now was to keep the Gaza Strip pacified through economic means, with the occasional blowout when things got out of hand. While it wasn't ideal, I'm pretty sure it was preferable to what we're about to see. Calling this an 'opportunity' is kinda sick.

[Lacrimas]

1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

Mike, get a grasp on grammar or lay off the grog.

With regard to unfolding developments in the Middle East. Al Jazeera is first upon my radar, as it current regarding any event, perhaps not always true form. Only ostrich i see, I'm responding to.

 

 

We are wasting our time, like I said in a few posts back, in this forum there's people still believing in good and evil like the world was a Marvel movie. Completely clueless. I admire they know the full history of the Mandate but falling for a completely distorted western view of history doesn't make you intelligent.

[Morch]

54 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

So Hamas beheading 40 babies, as evinced by Joe Biden through "pictures he saw", later retracted  by all. Again 40 children within a conflict seem to be expendable by either side, without the need to garnish it as homicidal butchery. Gaza children are reaching how many? And total count of Palestinian children throughout these years amount to what number? Makes me wretch,

  

It doesn't really matter whether them Israeli babies were beheaded, slaughtered, burned alive, shot or whatnot. What does matter is that they are dead. What does matter is that killing them was deliberate. What mattered is that this was planned for months. This was evil.

 

People (and yes, children too) die during wars and military operations. It's only same same if they are intentionally targeted. The people of the Gaza Strip are not.

 

Take it a step further on that scale of evil. Hamas carried out the attack knowing full well the consequences. There was no attempt to do anything to assure the safety of Gazans. In fact, Hamas urges them to stay put and die for the cause (while Hamas leaders are safely in underground bunkers, or having a good time on luxury hotels in the Gulf).

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

So you don't think this law is used to censor any kind of critics towards Israel? You are quite naive. 

You keep lying.

Not any and all.

Only that which fits the definition of antisemitism.

[Lacrimas]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You keep lying.

Not any and all.

Only that which fits the definition of antisemitism.

go ahead, say Israel is a criminal state in Germany. See what happens.

[MikeandDow]

10 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Mike, get a grasp on grammar or lay off the grog.

With regard to unfolding developments in the Middle East. Al Jazeera is first upon my radar, as it current regarding any event, perhaps not always true form. Only ostrich i see, I'm responding to.

 

 

are these not your word "40 babies were slaughtered, then where they? If the babies were slaughtered there would be no grieving parents"

a denial, you should hang you head in shame if you think it is all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, Lacrimas said:

It's even against the law to say anything against Israel in certain countries

Which ones please .... just naming one will do 

[Morch]

48 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Why wasn't the Israeli Air Force around the border a week ago? I would have thought they could have intercepted the Hamas Paragliders.

The paragliders were but one aspect of this attack. Israel's intelligence, operational and strategic failures were discussed, in detail, on quite a lot of posts by now. Why come with this out of nowhere as if it's some new info or something?

[vinny41]

20 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

Thank you. Hope this is true. Next humane thing is to allow medical supplies which have reached a critical level and allow medical evacuation of the critically injured civilians and to stop the targeting of medical facilities, ambulances and medical personnel, as we have seen videos of bombed hospitals, destroyed ambulances and injured first responders.

 

Things will get really ugly once the troops move inside Gaza. 

Spokesperson for the Hamas interior ministry Eyad Al-Bozom said on Monday that Israel had not permitted water supplies to be turned back on in Gaza, as had been reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/16/israel-hamas-war-live-update-news-today-gaza-water-fuel-aid-egypt-border-rafah-crossing-latest-updates

 

[Thorgal]

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Which ones please .... just naming one will do 

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/5/18/law-or-no-law-canadians-better-not-criticise-israel

 

[Paul Catton]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

It doesn't really matter whether them Israeli babies were beheaded, slaughtered, burned alive, shot or whatnot. What does matter is that they are dead. What does matter is that killing them was deliberate. What mattered is that this was planned for months. This was evil.

 

People (and yes, children too) die during wars and military operations. It's only same same if they are intentionally targeted. The people of the Gaza Strip are not.

 

Take it a step further on that scale of evil. Hamas carried out the attack knowing full well the consequences. There was no attempt to do anything to assure the safety of Gazans. In fact, Hamas urges them to stay put and die for the cause (while Hamas leaders are safely in underground bunkers, or having a good time on luxury hotels in the Gulf).

Was it 1 baby, 2, 3 or more? Were their parents legitimate targets IDF and caught in the crossfire living within close proximity to the worlds largest open prison? 

Did the Hamas force just attack the IDF bases and take some hostages, followed  bythe repressed population who also went through the wire and exacted vengeance for their lost children, brothers, sisters, parents.

How much is propaganda, how much is truth - never the twain will meet

An Eye for an Eye will makes us all blind except for last man standing with impaired vision. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/5/18/law-or-no-law-canadians-better-not-criticise-israel

 

I didn't ask for a third party link, I asked the poster to name at least one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel; which is what he claimed

[MikeandDow]

2 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Was it 1 baby, 2, 3 or more? Were their parents legitimate targets IDF and caught in the crossfire living within close proximity to the worlds largest open prison? 

Did the Hamas force just attack the IDF bases and take some hostages, followed  bythe repressed population who also went through the wire and exacted vengeance for their lost children, brothers, sisters, parents.

How much is propaganda, how much is truth - never the twain will meet

An Eye for an Eye will makes us all blind except for last man standing with impaired vision. 

Read the News!!  oh i forget its all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda 

[Lacrimas]

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

I didn't ask for a third party link, I asked the poster to name at least one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel; which is what he claimed

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/legal-framework_en

 

Of course these laws are being exploited in favor of Israel so that no criticism is allowed. Von Der Leyen was heavily criticized for this reason recently.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

9 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Spokesperson for the Hamas interior ministry Eyad Al-Bozom said on Monday that Israel had not permitted water supplies to be turned back on in Gaza, as had been reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/16/israel-hamas-war-live-update-news-today-gaza-water-fuel-aid-egypt-border-rafah-crossing-latest-updates

 

can’t open this link because I have anti-woke software on my computer, which obviously bins anything from the Guardian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Paul Catton said:

I do not hide behind pseudonym. I spent my formative years in the Middle East, I never play  emotive card. 40 babies were slaughtered, then where they? If the babies were slaughtered there would be no grieving parents as they would have been slaughtered likewise. Reality doesn't fit the narrative.

 

The words sick and puppy keep coming to me. No idea why.

 

Pictures were shown, shared and distributed. Many media outlets and websites choose not to publish such gruesome horrors (including, I think, this forum). They can be found though searching the net, changing certain preferences if you have them on. I stopped watching after a while.

 

Unless you missed it some cases whole families were slaughtered or abducted. In other cases, some survived and some did not. Other cases people were killed on the way to the Gaza Strip. Many options to choose from. As posted earlier, this specific issue seems to either bring out the worse in some posters or maybe attracts the worst posters. Not that important a distinction, perhaps.

[metisdead]

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[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/legal-framework_en

 

Of course these laws are being exploited in favor of Israel so that no criticism is allowed. Von Der Leyen was heavily criticized for this reason recently.

Are you having trouble with the comprehension of posts you read; I said I did not ask for third party links, simply the name of one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel …. I am only asking because you said it was against the law in some countries to criticise Israel …. or were you making it up ??

[Paul Catton]

13 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

are these not your word "40 babies were slaughtered, then where they? If the babies were slaughtered there would be no grieving parents"

a denial, you should hang you head in shame if you think it is all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda 

 

Have You, and also "Joe Biden" who said he has seen photographs of this decapitations, now, slaughter, perhaps eventually collateral damage like the children in Gaza, I have no reason alone to hang my head in shame. Humanity itself needs to do the same.   

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It's acknowledged there were failures in the Israeli defense system. They will be investigated after the war.

Hmm, when Gaza has been taken. 

[Thorgal]

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Are you having trouble with the comprehension of posts you read; I said I did not ask for third party links, simply the name of one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel …. I am only asking because you said it was against the law in some countries to criticise Israel …. or were you making it up ??

USA

 

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00741

 

Under the state’s legislation (Florida), it would be illegal to speak out in public institutions against Israel’s human rights violations.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

42 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

So you don't think this law is used to censor any kind of critics towards Israel?

He didn't say that; stop trying to put words into other posters mouths, so that you can respond to what they did not in fact say 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

Have You, and also "Joe Biden" who said he has seen photographs of this decapitations, now, slaughter, perhaps eventually collateral

Sleepy is a liar. He has a lot to gain with control of the middle east oil fields. 

Bush had a go too, with an equally unjust war. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

Under the state’s legislation (Florida),

When did Florida become a country please ?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

5 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

Under the state’s legislation (Florida)

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Eloquent pilgrim