Thailand remains neutral on Israeli-Palestine conflict

[ravip]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I would be interested how you will judge about the ongoing violation of International Law by Israel????

Where "international law" is concerned, it is NOT "what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" - that's a FACT, it ALWAYS was. The worlds got to accept it.

[newbee2022]

54 minutes ago, Morch said:

No one in his right mind expects Israel to withdraw from the West Bank at this moment.

Same right for Russia? Or do you prefer different laws for different countries? Depends on having a democratic govt ? 

[Morch]

54 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I would be interested how you will judge about the ongoing violation of International Law by Israel????

I'd be interested in you actually replying to posts made in answer to yours, rather than raising new questions on other topics.

[Morch]

45 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Same right for Russia? Or do you prefer different laws for different countries? Depends on having a democratic govt ? 

Yawn. Russia again. More pointless questions. Not one actual reply to points made.

[newbee2022]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

I'd be interested in you actually replying to posts made in answer to yours, rather than raising new questions on other topics.

I realised already that you are not good in answers but in writing nonsense. A friend said this to me.???? Keep on with your life

[newbee2022]

12 minutes ago, Morch said:

Yawn. Russia again. More pointless questions. Not one actual reply to points made.

Stop replying if you have to marter your brain. Better That's what a friend told me. Silence is golden.....

[MrMojoRisin]

This is a stunningly erudite position being taken by the Thai government.

 

In my book, the absolute most perfect response to come from any Thai government at any time on any international issue ever.

 

Not surprising that the only ones complaining about Thailand's rational, impartial and incredibly intelligent response are pro Israeli apologists.

 

The brilliance needs to repeated:

 

We are neutral, as we do not have sufficient information. We do, however, condemn acts of violence, which are unacceptable to us.”

 

I wonder what Thaksin's role in this decision was, wiley old fox that he is.

Edited October 13, 2023 by MrMojoRisin

[MrMojoRisin]

9 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I just wondering if we live in the same world. Your views are absolute abstruse to me. Sorry. 

Abstruse.

Nice word.

First time I've ever come across it.

[MrMojoRisin]

On 10/12/2023 at 9:35 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

I don't know, I am quite warming to the idea of genocide .

Charming.

[MrMojoRisin]

On 10/12/2023 at 12:33 PM, Hanuman2547 said:

Why of course the Thai government would remain neutral.  To take a position and pledge your support to one of the groups would require some backbone to stand up to the criticism that would surely follow.  

Whatever they may lack in backbone they most certainly have made up for with grey matter with this particular decision.

Edited October 13, 2023 by MrMojoRisin

[MrMojoRisin]

On 10/12/2023 at 10:57 AM, WDSmart said:

If "remaining neutral" means not taking sides, then I agree with Thailand's decision on this. If "remaining neutral" means not condemning either side for atrocities that Hamas has committed in the past and especially over the past several days, and the atrocities that Israel has committed over the past 60 years and will surely commit in the next few days and weeks, then I disagree. We should all condemn all of that! ????

Reread the statement:

 

We are neutral, as we do not have sufficient information. We do, however, condemn acts of violence, which are unacceptable to us.”

[Somjot]

5 hours ago, ChipButty said:

The word “Jerusalem” is mentioned more than 660 times in the Hebrew bible and 146 times in the New Testament. Jerusalem, by his name is not mentioned in the Quran, how comes that?

I am not a specialist for international property ownership law, but I have a few doubts if the frequency a city is mentioned in one book written about 3000 years ago by people who were basically shepherds or in another book which was written decades after the death of their prophet by people who started doubting if the promised Kingdom of heaven will happen as soon as they thought is a legal base to raise a claim on some land.

Palestine was Muslim since the 7th century and a part of the Ottoman Empire for more than 400 years until 1918 Britain got the mandate.

30 years later the loss of their lands to the new proclaimed country Israel was decided over their heads same as the promise for independent Arab state was broken.

 

5 hours ago, ChipButty said:

 

when muslims pray the turn their backs on Jerusalem

Now this is absolute nonsense.

 

Muslims pray only in one direction - to Mecca. Or to be precise to the Kaaba, the holy mosque in Mecca.

 

If their geographical location is exactly on a line between Jerusalem and Mecca, then yes, they would pray with their backs to Jerusalem but this has nothing to do with Jerusalem.

 

Seriously, where do these false informations come from?

 

[MikeandDow]

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

I am not a specialist for international property ownership law, but I have a few doubts if the frequency a city is mentioned in one book written about 3000 years ago by people who were basically shepherds or in another book which was written decades after the death of their prophet by people who started doubting if the promised Kingdom of heaven will happen as soon as they thought is a legal base to raise a claim on some land.

Palestine was Muslim since the 7th century and a part of the Ottoman Empire for more than 400 years until 1918 Britain got the mandate.

30 years later the loss of their lands to the new proclaimed country Israel was decided over their heads same as the promise for independent Arab state was broken.

 

Now this is absolute nonsense.

 

Muslims pray only in one direction - to Mecca. Or to be precise to the Kaaba, the holy mosque in Mecca.

 

If their geographical location is exactly on a line between Jerusalem and Mecca, then yes, they would pray with their backs to Jerusalem but this has nothing to do with Jerusalem.

 

Seriously, where do these false informations come from?

 

need to read up on ur history a bit

In the 4th century, as the Roman Empire christened, Palestine became a center of Christianity, attracting pilgrims, monks and scholars. Following the Muslim conquest of the Levant in 636–641, several Muslim ruling dynasties succeeded each other as they wrestled control of Palestine: the Rashiduns; the Umayyads, who built the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem; the Abbasids; the semi-independent Tulunids and the Ikhshidids; the Fatimids; and the Seljuks. In 1099, the Crusaders established the Kingdom of Jerusalem in Palestine, which the Ayyubid Sultanate reconquered in 1187. Following the invasion of the Mongol Empire, the Egyptian Mamluks reunified Palestine under its control before the Ottoman Empire conquered the region in 1516 and ruled it as Ottoman Syria largely undisrupted through to the 20th century.

During World War I the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, favoring the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. The British captured Palestine from the Ottomans shortly thereafter. The League of Nations gave Britain mandatory power over Palestine in 1922. British colonial rule and Arab efforts to prevent Jewish migration into Palestine led to growing sectarian violence between Arabs and Jews, eventually causing the British government to announce its intention to terminate the Mandate in 1947. The United Nations General Assembly recommended partitioning Palestine into two states; one Arab and one Jewish. However, the situation in Palestine had deteriorated into a civil war between Arabs and Jews. The Arabs rejected the Partition Plan, the Jews ostensibly accepted it, declaring the independence of the State of Israel in May 1948 upon the termination of the British mandate. Nearby Arab countries invaded Palestine, but Israel not only prevailed but also conquered far more territory of the Mandate than envisioned by the Partition Plan. During the war, 700,000, or about 80% of all Palestinians fled or were driven out of the territory that Israel conquered, and were not allowed to return, in an event that became known as the Nakba ("Catastrophe") to the Palestinians. Starting in the late 1940s and continuing for decades thereafter, about 850,000 Jews from the Arab world immigrated ("made Aliyah") to Israel.

After the war, only two parts of Palestine remained in Arab control: the West Bank (and East-Jerusalem), annexed by Jordan, and the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt), which were conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War in 1967. Despite international objections, Israel started to establish settlements in these occupied territories.^[1] Meanwhile, the Palestinian national movement gradually gained international recognition, largely thanks to the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO, founded in 1965) under the leadership of Yasser Arafat. In 1993, the Oslo Peace Accords between Israel and the PLO established the Palestinian National Authority (PA) as an interim body to run parts of Gaza and the West Bank (but not East Jerusalem) pending a permanent solution to the conflict. Further peace developments were not ratified and/or implemented, and in recent history, relations between Israel and Palestinians have been marked by repeated military conflicts, especially with the Islamist group Hamas, which also rejects the PA. In 2007, Hamas won control of Gaza from the PA, now limited to the West Bank. In November 2012, the State of Palestine (the name used by the PA) became a non-member observer state in the UN, allowing it to take part in General Assembly debates and improving its chances of joining other UN agencies.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Reread the statement:

 

We are neutral, as we do not have sufficient information. We do, however, condemn acts of violence, which are unacceptable to us.”

An adult government that expects to be taken seriously in the world doesn't say juvenile things like we don't have enough information.

If you had a student in a class with that excuse from doing to an assignment he would FAIL.

It's the job of an adult government (or really any student in any class) to GET the information. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Jingthing

[Morch]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

An adult government that expects to be taken seriously in the world doesn't say juvenile things like we don't have enough information.

If you had a student in a class with that excuse from doing to an assignment he would FAIL.

It's the job of an adult government (or really any student in any class) to GET the information. 

Not that I tend to take Thai government announcements and statements very seriously, but if to address the point - there are 30K Thai citizens in Israel, and they do not have enough information? Laughable.

 

Then again, also not much issues with them doing their usual stuff. It's not their fight, their citizens are in harm's way, interests in Muslim countries, and not wishing to be the stage for revenge attempts.

 

The Israeli Ambassador doesn't seem too annoyed with them, even.

 

As an aside, not that I took a poll, but from news and people I talked to, sounds like the general sentiment is 'somewhat' more decisive than the government's official position.

[spidermike007]

It is the path of least resistance. And since the administration is fully compromised anyway, should we expect a statement that shows any moral conviction? After all, look at the neighborhood? Cambodia, Burma, Laos, China. Not exactly beacons of ethics of morality. 

[spinner343]

On 10/11/2023 at 3:41 PM, CharlieKo said:

That is just BS. I doubt Putin is even thinking along those lines. There are many dual Russian Israeli citizens living in Israel. It's just anti Putin propaganda.

it won't really matter to putin he hasn't got long left until he can meet his makers

[Somjot]

9 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

need to read up on ur history a bit

In the 4th century, as the Roman Empire christened, Palestine became a center of Christianity, attracting pilgrims, monks and scholars. Following the Muslim conquest of the Levant in 636–641, several Muslim ruling dynasties succeeded each other as they wrestled control of Palestine: the Rashiduns; the Umayyads, who built the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem; the Abbasids; the semi-independent Tulunids and the Ikhshidids; the Fatimids; and the Seljuks. In 1099, the Crusaders established the Kingdom of Jerusalem in Palestine, which the Ayyubid Sultanate reconquered in 1187. Following the invasion of the Mongol Empire, the Egyptian Mamluks reunified Palestine under its control before the Ottoman Empire conquered the region in 1516 and ruled it as Ottoman Syria largely undisrupted through to the 20th century.

During World War I the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, favoring the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. The British captured Palestine from the Ottomans shortly thereafter. The League of Nations gave Britain mandatory power over Palestine in 1922. British colonial rule and Arab efforts to prevent Jewish migration into Palestine led to growing sectarian violence between Arabs and Jews, eventually causing the British government to announce its intention to terminate the Mandate in 1947. The United Nations General Assembly recommended partitioning Palestine into two states; one Arab and one Jewish. However, the situation in Palestine had deteriorated into a civil war between Arabs and Jews. The Arabs rejected the Partition Plan, the Jews ostensibly accepted it, declaring the independence of the State of Israel in May 1948 upon the termination of the British mandate. Nearby Arab countries invaded Palestine, but Israel not only prevailed but also conquered far more territory of the Mandate than envisioned by the Partition Plan. During the war, 700,000, or about 80% of all Palestinians fled or were driven out of the territory that Israel conquered, and were not allowed to return, in an event that became known as the Nakba ("Catastrophe") to the Palestinians. Starting in the late 1940s and continuing for decades thereafter, about 850,000 Jews from the Arab world immigrated ("made Aliyah") to Israel.

After the war, only two parts of Palestine remained in Arab control: the West Bank (and East-Jerusalem), annexed by Jordan, and the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt), which were conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War in 1967. Despite international objections, Israel started to establish settlements in these occupied territories.^[1] Meanwhile, the Palestinian national movement gradually gained international recognition, largely thanks to the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO, founded in 1965) under the leadership of Yasser Arafat. In 1993, the Oslo Peace Accords between Israel and the PLO established the Palestinian National Authority (PA) as an interim body to run parts of Gaza and the West Bank (but not East Jerusalem) pending a permanent solution to the conflict. Further peace developments were not ratified and/or implemented, and in recent history, relations between Israel and Palestinians have been marked by repeated military conflicts, especially with the Islamist group Hamas, which also rejects the PA. In 2007, Hamas won control of Gaza from the PA, now limited to the West Bank. In November 2012, the State of Palestine (the name used by the PA) became a non-member observer state in the UN, allowing it to take part in General Assembly debates and improving its chances of joining other UN agencies.

And?

What is this supposed to tell me.

All you did was taking that Wikipedia article “History of Palestine” copied and pasted the most part of it.

This article was by the way one of many I studied, before I wrote my comment.

Nor is it contradicting me neither does it provide evidence the Muslims pray with the backs to Jerusalem.

So once again, what is your point?

But to get back to topic:

I can't say that I'm always happy with the decisions of the new government - the taxation of money brought into the country is giving me a headache.

But condemning the violence and at the same time confirming to be neutral, was a very wise decision not only according to future business contacts to this area but most importantly to save the lives those 30,000 Thais stuck in Israel.

Siding with Israel maybe even offering some kind of military help would be a death sentence for the people there.

[MikeandDow]

3 hours ago, Somjot said:

And?

What is this supposed to tell me.

All you did was taking that Wikipedia article “History of Palestine” copied and pasted the most part of it.

This article was by the way one of many I studied, before I wrote my comment.

Nor is it contradicting me neither does it provide evidence the Muslims pray with the backs to Jerusalem.

So once again, what is your point?

But to get back to topic:

I can't say that I'm always happy with the decisions of the new government - the taxation of money brought into the country is giving me a headache.

But condemning the violence and at the same time confirming to be neutral, was a very wise decision not only according to future business contacts to this area but most importantly to save the lives those 30,000 Thais stuck in Israel.

Siding with Israel maybe even offering some kind of military help would be a death sentence for the people there.

this tells u Israel is Israel  and is Jewish not muslim  the Palestinians were defeated

  "Nearby Arab countries invaded Palestine, but Israel not only prevailed but also conquered far more territory of the Mandate than envisioned by the Partition Plan. During the war, 700,000, or about 80% of all Palestinians fled or were driven out of the territory that Israel conquered, and were not allowed to return, in an event that became known as the Nakba ("Catastrophe") to the Palestinians. "

[Somjot]

7 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

this tells u Israel is Israel  and is Jewish not muslim  the Palestinians were defeated 

 

Well history as well as international law do not see it the way you do.

 

Israel is Israel but it was Palestine and Muslim for more than 1000 years. When it went under British mandate the Jewish population was something around 3%.

 

1917 Britain declared their support for the founding of a national home for the Jews in the Balfour Declaration and against the will of the local population more and more Jews settled in Palestine. 

 

The declaration had many long-lasting consequences. It indirectly led to the emergence of Israel and is considered a principal cause of the ongoing Israeli–Palestinian conflict, often described as the world's most intractable conflict.

 

In the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel occupied the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, West Bank, East Jerusalem and Golan Heights.

 

The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal; they are in violation of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Israeli-occupied territories.

 

Israel just didn't care and kept expanding their territories and terrorizing the Arab population, which felt completely betrayed and left alone by the international community.

 

And that is what led to the creation of all Arabic terrorist organizations in that area.

 

Hamas is Israel's child.

 

As irony of fate, one of their oldest books, Hosea 8 verse 7, states:

 

“For they have been planting the wind and their fruit will be the storm”.

 

[MikeandDow]

53 minutes ago, Somjot said:

 

Well history as well as international law do not see it the way you do.

 

Israel is Israel but it was Palestine and Muslim for more than 1000 years. When it went under British mandate the Jewish population was something around 3%.

 

1917 Britain declared their support for the founding of a national home for the Jews in the Balfour Declaration and against the will of the local population more and more Jews settled in Palestine. 

 

The declaration had many long-lasting consequences. It indirectly led to the emergence of Israel and is considered a principal cause of the ongoing Israeli–Palestinian conflict, often described as the world's most intractable conflict.

 

In the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel occupied the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, West Bank, East Jerusalem and Golan Heights.

 

The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal; they are in violation of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Israeli-occupied territories.

 

Israel just didn't care and kept expanding their territories and terrorizing the Arab population, which felt completely betrayed and left alone by the international community.

 

And that is what led to the creation of all Arabic terrorist organizations in that area.

 

Hamas is Israel's child.

 

As irony of fate, one of their oldest books, Hosea 8 verse 7, states:

 

“For they have been planting the wind and their fruit will be the storm”.

 

"Israel just didn't care and kept expanding their territories and terrorizing the Arab population, which felt completely betrayed and left alone by the international community.

 

And that is what led to the creation of all Arabic terrorist organizations in that area.

 

Hamas is Israel's child."

Total rubbish the above part you have made up and is NOT true

you need to read the history and just not part then alter it because it does not suit you

after the 6day war israel defeated Egypt very badly, Israel captures and occupies the Golan Heights from Syria, the West Bank (incl. East Jerusalem) from Jordan, and the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt and surrounded Egypt 3rd army, but basicly through internaional pressure UN and  for Egypt recognizing Israel as a state Israel withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula

Hamas was not formed till late 1987 nothing to do with the 6 day war

you really need to do your research before you post if you dont it makes you look like an idxxx

Edited October 14, 2023 by MikeandDow

[KhaoNiaw]

Interesting historical footnote to the Thai position and something maybe someone could help to shed some light on.

The Philippines was the only Asian country to vote in support of UN Resolution 181 (II) for the partition of Palestine, under pressure from the US after their representative had spoken against it. Thailand, or rather Siam as it was then, was officially noted as 'Absent' from the vote (the only country 'absent'). According to Wikipedia, "The credentials of the Siamese delegations were cancelled after Siam voted against partition in committee on 25 November." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine 
(with the final vote being made on the 29th as it didn't receive enough votes to pass on the 25th. This gave time for pressure to be applied to ensure its subsequent success).

There are a couple of Wikipedia links to articles in the New York Times archives but they require a subscription to access. If anyone has a subscription and is interested to see if they provide more detail, I'm wondering exactly how the Siamese credentials were cancelled. Was it the UN under pressure from the Americans? Or maybe the Siamese government cancelled their own delegates under US pressure (they were somewhat beholden to the Americans to even be there). Why was this method only used with the Siamese when other delegations were persuaded to change their vote? Did the Siamese delegates stick to their position? 
I've tried searches in both Thai and English to try and get more details on this point but so far without success. Does anyone have any knowledge on this issue?  
 

[Somjot]

1 hour ago, MikeandDow said:

"Israel just didn't care and kept expanding their territories and terrorizing the Arab population, which felt completely betrayed and left alone by the international community.

 

And that is what led to the creation of all Arabic terrorist organizations in that area.

 

Hamas is Israel's child."

Total rubbish the above part you have made up and is NOT true

you need to read the history and just not part then alter it because it does not suit you

after the 6day war israel defeated Egypt very badly, Israel captures and occupies the Golan Heights from Syria, the West Bank (incl. East Jerusalem) from Jordan, and the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt and surrounded Egypt 3rd army, but basicly through internaional pressure UN and  for Egypt recognizing Israel as a state Israel withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula

Hamas was not formed till late 1987 nothing to do with the 6 day war

you really need to do your research before you post if you dont it makes you look like an idxxx

 

Buddy, either am I expressing myself so badly, maybe because I'm a non-native speaker, or you are you intentionally try to misunderstand me.

 

Yes, Israel withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula (after 15 years) but Westbank and Western Golan heights are still occupied and, even if not occupied, Gaza`s borders, waters and airspace is still under control of Israel.

 

1981 the Golan heights were practically annexed by Israel although only the US recognize them as Israeli territory.

 

East Jerusalem was annexed 1980.

All these acts were internationally condemned, yet Israel keeps settling in these areas.

 

Or the short version:

"Israel just didn't care and kept expanding their territories and terrorizing the Arab population, which felt completely betrayed and left alone by the international community"

 

Now what makes you think, what I wrote is completely made-up and not true?

 

Do you still believe in that fairy tale that “the people without land finally settled in the land without people”?

 

Israel is a stolen country. Stolen from a majority, who were living there for centuries, by a minority, who used to live there thousands of years ago with the help of powerful Western countries.

 

I never wrote that Hamas was formed after the six-day war, but where do you think all these terrorist organizations are coming from?

 

We call them terrorist organization but from the view of the Arabs they are freedom fighters, trying to get back their land.

 

Would you accept it, if some minority in your home country with a completely different religion and mentality would suddenly found a state in the middle of it, expelling you and your family?

 

As long as we keep using this double standard accepting every crime and allied state has committed and only condemning the crimes of the other side, People keep dying.

 

We're doing this for decades now.

 

Wasn't that the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

Actually, he never said that, still it remains a great quote.

 

However, I have another quote, which suits us both:

 

“The dogs bark but the caravan keeps moving.”

 

Let's agree to disagree. We could spend the rest of our lives discussing this and yet it would change nothing.

 

And without knowing you, I think we both have better things to do.

 

Have a nice weekend.

 

[MikeandDow]

1 hour ago, Somjot said:

 

Buddy, either am I expressing myself so badly, maybe because I'm a non-native speaker, or you are you intentionally try to misunderstand me.

 

Yes, Israel withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula (after 15 years) but Westbank and Western Golan heights are still occupied and, even if not occupied, Gaza`s borders, waters and airspace is still under control of Israel.

 

1981 the Golan heights were practically annexed by Israel although only the US recognize them as Israeli territory.

 

East Jerusalem was annexed 1980.

All these acts were internationally condemned, yet Israel keeps settling in these areas.

 

Or the short version:

"Israel just didn't care and kept expanding their territories and terrorizing the Arab population, which felt completely betrayed and left alone by the international community"

 

Now what makes you think, what I wrote is completely made-up and not true?

 

Do you still believe in that fairy tale that “the people without land finally settled in the land without people”?

 

Israel is a stolen country. Stolen from a majority, who were living there for centuries, by a minority, who used to live there thousands of years ago with the help of powerful Western countries.

 

I never wrote that Hamas was formed after the six-day war, but where do you think all these terrorist organizations are coming from?

 

We call them terrorist organization but from the view of the Arabs they are freedom fighters, trying to get back their land.

 

Would you accept it, if some minority in your home country with a completely different religion and mentality would suddenly found a state in the middle of it, expelling you and your family?

 

As long as we keep using this double standard accepting every crime and allied state has committed and only condemning the crimes of the other side, People keep dying.

 

We're doing this for decades now.

 

Wasn't that the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

Actually, he never said that, still it remains a great quote.

 

However, I have another quote, which suits us both:

 

“The dogs bark but the caravan keeps moving.”

 

Let's agree to disagree. We could spend the rest of our lives discussing this and yet it would change nothing.

 

And without knowing you, I think we both have better things to do.

 

Have a nice weekend.

 

Fine i agree to disagree but i belive i know more about my homeland than you do !!! and i know Israel is not stolen country you read up on that and learn

Edited October 14, 2023 by MikeandDow

[ravip]

Thailand remains neutral on Israeli-Palestine conflict

 

Great. The best they can do right now, under the current circumstances.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 10/11/2023 at 8:40 PM, snoop1130 said:

Parnpree reiterated that Thailand’s position is clear, that we are neutral, as we do not have sufficient information.

Thailand, aspiring to be the new Switzerland of Southeast Asia!!!  ????

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 10/11/2023 at 10:18 PM, bignok said:

And if somebody dies you will accept it? Makes no sense. Your argument is null and void. They need to get the 3000 Thais out.

And you think Thailand would suddenly become un-neutral then??? 

Edited October 15, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[bignok]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And you think Thailand would suddenly become un-neutral then??? 

Who cares

[Barnet1900]

On 10/11/2023 at 9:01 PM, JensenZ said:

There are some serious cowards in this government. How could anyone in good conscience remain neutral? Neutral means they condone the slaughter of civilians, including the murder of infants. They need to preserve their Arab tourism at all costs. They cannot risk upsetting them.

I doubt they know where it is? Somchai...look what happened in Israel...

Arai naaa... Israel...Pantomime...U naiiii???

 

They stayed neutral in the Ukraine conflict because they want tourists. No interest in human rights or right and wrong. Purely for financial benefit.

 

No surprise here.

 

 

[Isaan sailor]

A neutral stance helps Thailand align better with big brother to the north…