What do we think of this from MG ?

[herfiehandbag]

Do you have to take it apart to mend it in a layby on the A303, for the second time in a week, whilst your (soon to be ex) girlfriend watches impatiently.

 

If not, it is not an MG!

Edited October 22, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[transam]

Just now, KhunLA said:

Nice toy to have, IF, wanting to add another car to one's collection.  Or if just wanting to be a bit sporty & stylish when going from point A - B.

 

Impractical for myself, as I'd never use the convertible aspect of it here/TH.  

 

Pretty damn awesome though ... with added plus of being yet another fine product from CH, instead of crap from the UK, thankfully 😁

Strange they named it MG after "your" UK crap quote, isn't it, very strange....

 

Perhaps you being from the USA don't have a clue, eh.....😂

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, transam said:

Strange they named it MG after "your" UK crap quote, isn't it, very strange....

 

Perhaps you being from the USA don't have a clue, eh.....😂

Get back under your bridge!

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Strange they named it MG after "your" UK crap quote, isn't it, very strange....

 

Perhaps you being from the USA don't have a clue, eh.....😂

No,  MG (the company) named the vehicle the Cyberster.

Much the same as Toyota naming a car a Yaris or Ford naming a car the Fiesta.

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

Get back under your bridge!

Celerio or MG Cyberster... which to own?

... tough decision 😂

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Er - AFAIK there is more to building a car than just steel.

You think the Japanese and Koreans are importing car components from China? They would probably sooner chew razor blades.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, transam said:

It's not British...........😏

Most people would view that as positive.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

You think the Japanese and Koreans are importing car components from China? They would probably sooner chew razor blades.

They all have manufacturing facilities and/or joint ventures in China.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, quake said:

Did they just nick the steering wheel from the Austin Allegro. 

Considering that there is no rational comparison, no.

[JBChiangRai]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You think the Japanese and Koreans are importing car components from China? They would probably sooner chew razor blades.

I am 100% sure they import components from China, it's straight forward economics

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, transam said:

It's not British...........😏

Thankfully!

[Ralf001]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

I am 100% sure they import components from China, it's straight forward economics

Toyota has several joint ventures in China for the production of the Avalon, Land Cruiser, RAV4, etc etc.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

I am 100% sure they import components from China, it's straight forward economics

That might explain why some of their quality statistics are going downhill.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

No when MG were British they were a by-word for low quality crap, same as anything from British Leyland. I had a 1968 MGB for about 25 years in the US, 144,000 original miles, great fun to drive in the summer with the top down, but what an awfully hard drive and foul suspension. You were totally exhausted after driving it for 10 minutes around the post-winter, pot-holed US roads but nice on decent roads.

That's a reflection of crappy US infrastructure, not MGBs.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

That might explain why some of their quality statistics are going downhill.

Maybe they are too busy chewing razor blades.

Edited October 22, 2023 by Ralf001

[JBChiangRai]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

That might explain why some of their quality statistics are going downhill.

I think it's fair to accept that there are 2 leaders in EV technology, one is Tesla, the other is China.

 

I doubt Tesla will keep up.  People won't want aging designs, Models S,3,X,Y they want a new design every few years.  IMHO, China is already overtaking Tesla.

 

Some reviewers are already saying that BYD's Seal is a superior car to Tesla's 3.  It's certainly far better finished and equipped.

 

And I think it's universally accepted that the Lucid Air is a superior car to Tesla's S as is The Porsche Taycan & Audi equivalent.

Edited October 22, 2023 by JBChiangRai

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

like the Japanese cars of old (70s and early 80s), these Chinese cars might not be a quality  build.

You're basing that on what?

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think it's fair to accept that there are 2 leaders in EV technology, one is Tesla, the other is China.

 

I doubt Tesla will keep up.  People won't want aging designs, Models S,3,X,Y they want a new design every few years.  IMHO, China is already overtaking Tesla.

The jury is still out on whether Chinese cars have the same reliability as the Japanese and Korean brands. The Honda Accord of the 2000's had an awesome reputation.

LDV in Australia has already achieved the cachet of worst s!!tbox for rust.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

like the Japanese cars of old (70s and early 80s), these Chinese cars might not be a quality  build.

I had cars/truck from JP in 70s & 80s, and were fine products.  Choose wisely & smile.

 

Choose poorly & have regrets ... UP2U

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The jury is still out on whether Chinese cars have the same reliability as the Japanese and Korean brands. The Honda Accord of the 2000's had an awesome reputation.

LDV in Australia has already achieved the cachet of worst s!!tbox for rust.

Not really, and cars from CH have a long track record.  Cars from JP have been using their reputation as being better than US or EU/UK cars, which really doesn't say much.  

 

They've used up that clout, and it really no longer applies, as they've been called out so many times now for poor quality, the reputation is only good on ignorant people.

[retarius]

Just now, KhunLA said:

I had cars/truck from JP in 70s & 80s, and were fine products.  Choose wisely & smile.

 

Choose poorly & have regrets ... UP2U

Maybe it was the damp climate or the salty roads......but Datsuns rotted before your very eyes and before you could get the Polyfilla in. The Honda Accord and the Datsun Bluebird were the first decent Japanese cars to be marketed in the UK. They set new standards of what a consumer could expect from a car company, that British Leyland simply couldn't meet. The propaganda blamed the unions but, it was poor design and poor engineering that management encouraged that did BL in.

[Ralf001]

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The jury is still out on whether Chinese cars have the same reliability as the Japanese and Korean brands.

MG certainly became more reliable once SIAC took over.

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, retarius said:

Maybe it was the damp climate or the salty roads......but Datsuns rotted before your very eyes and before you could get the Polyfilla in. The Honda Accord and the Datsun Bluebird were the first decent Japanese cars to be marketed in the UK. They set new standards of what a consumer could expect from a car company, that British Leyland simply couldn't meet. The propaganda blamed the unions but, it was poor design and poor engineering that management encouraged that did BL in.

And yet, 2 of my first car/truck from JP were Datsun, and served my well.  Both inexpensive entry level, but didn't take anything away from the quality.

 

Along with another Nissan bought later that I loved to drive.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

The two worst cars I ever drove were an old Nissan Pulsar (which was new) and an MG Z.  The Pulsar was a long time ago (rental car) and I never throught that it would be 'bettered' - but the MG Z that I rented for 2 weeks did the trick.The way that I look at it, all brands have a few 'duds' - even Mercedes screwed up with the original As and Bs. But going forward, I aint likely to ever get an MG - especially this showroom monstrosity - sorry mate.

[transam]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Get back under your bridge!

I don't own or live near a bridge, I think you are mistaken, but the Chinese were not mistaken using "MG since 1924" as their sales ploy........

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I don't own or live near a bridge, I think you are mistaken, but the Chinese were not mistaken using "MG since 1924" as their sales ploy........

My comment went over your head?

[transam]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Most people would view that as positive.

No, that is your assumption......😉....🤭

[transam]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Thankfully!

Why...?

[transam]

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

My comment went over your head?

Like most of your comments.........😉

[Lacessit]

44 minutes ago, transam said:

No, that is your assumption......😉....🤭

It used to be said one bought two Jaguars, as one was guaranteed to be in the service shop being fixed.

I still remember one Austin - a Westminster or similar name - that still had wire mechanical brakes when everyone else had gone to hydraulics.

Who could forget the Hillman Imp, which went from terminal understeer to lethal oversteer on a small change in tyre pressure? Or the first Ford Prefect?