House chaos forces Senate to take the wheel on spending

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The stalemate in the House is forcing the Senate to pick up the legislative slack and take the lead on spending.

That includes keeping the government funded, as well as an emerging aid package that includes money to help Israel and Ukraine and to ease concerns at the U.S.-Mexico border, a top issue for House Republicans they may have precious little say over. 

 

“It’s just so difficult to read how the gears start turning again in the House,” Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), an ally of Senate GOP leadership, told The Hill. “We just can’t sit and wait.” 

House Republicans are entering their third week without a Speaker at a crucial point in the year. 

There is less than a month before the next government shutdown deadline, with the House having effectively zapped three weeks of the stopgap bill that ultimately led to Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) losing the Speakership earlier this month.

The Senate is also set to work up the White House’s $105 billion supplemental package that includes aid for Israel and Ukraine in their battles against Hamas and Russia, respectively. 

This leaves lawmakers with a time crunch, as they hope to get the work done before Thanksgiving without much help from across the Capitol complex, where funding legislation normally originates.

President Biden’s request to Congress included $61 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel, $14 billion to beef up border operations, $10 billion in humanitarian aid and $2 billion for Indo-Pacific security assistance. The push for Ukraine aid comes after Congress was unable to include it in the 45-day continuing resolution lawmakers passed at the end of last month. 

 

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[Tug]

I don’t understand how they can fund anything without going through the congress first, they can be prepared for when that happens but without going through congress first I think they are (we)are stuck 

[Danderman123]

13 minutes ago, Tug said:

I don’t understand how they can fund anything without going through the congress first, they can be prepared for when that happens but without going through congress first I think they are (we)are stuck 

To be clear, spending bills must originate in the House.

[Chomper Higgot]

Vote Republican get chaos.

[JonnyF]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

President Biden’s request to Congress included $61 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel, $14 billion to beef up border operations, $10 billion in humanitarian aid and $2 billion for Indo-Pacific security assistance

Quite the big spender isn’t he (on foreign projects with American taxpayer’s money).

 

Thank god the Republicans are bringing some fiscal responsibility to the table.

 

Chaos indeed. Like most of Biden’s time in power.

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2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Quite the big spender isn’t he (on foreign projects with American taxpayer’s money).

 

Thank god the Republicans are bringing some fiscal responsibility to the table.

 

 

You sure about that?

 

Most House Republicans vote to uphold Ukraine aid

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4226675-most-house-republicans-vote-to-uphold-ukraine-aid/

 

McConnell supports Biden’s Israel and Ukraine aid bundle, hopes for ‘functional’ House

https://nypost.com/2023/10/22/mcconnell-backs-up-biden-bundling-israel-and-ukraine-aid-hopes-for-functional-house/

 

 

 

[placeholder]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Chaos indeed. Like most of Biden’s time in power.

Republican dysfunction is Biden's fault? Really?

[LosLobo]

 

 

[Tropposurfer]

17 hours ago, placeholder said:

You sure about that?

 

Most House Republicans vote to uphold Ukraine aid

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4226675-most-house-republicans-vote-to-uphold-ukraine-aid/

 

McConnell supports Biden’s Israel and Ukraine aid bundle, hopes for ‘functional’ House

https://nypost.com/2023/10/22/mcconnell-backs-up-biden-bundling-israel-and-ukraine-aid-hopes-for-functional-house/

 

Nice factual response pholder ... As for our other member ... Why let plain hard facts get in the way of ones ignorance, bigotry, and denial.

 

Thank you pholder ... But hey, why should 

[scorecard]

17 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Quite the big spender isn’t he (on foreign projects with American taxpayer’s money).

 

Thank god the Republicans are bringing some fiscal responsibility to the table.

 

Chaos indeed. Like most of Biden’s time in power.

 

Not true at all.

[wwest5829]

22 hours ago, Tug said:

I don’t understand how they can fund anything without going through the congress first, they can be prepared for when that happens but without going through congress first I think they are (we)are stuck 

The U.S. Senate is one house of Congress. To make your statement clearer and accurate I suggest you use the, “House of Representatives” (or just the House) rather than Congress. The Senate can send the proposed Bill to the House but both would have to approve before being submitted to the President for his approval (or Veto).

[wwest5829]

22 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

To be clear, spending bills must originate in the House.

“All bills raising revenue …”, the proposed bill does not address raising revenue (raising taxes) but rather addresses spending.

[rudi49jr]

On 10/23/2023 at 8:02 AM, JonnyF said:

Quite the big spender isn’t he (on foreign projects with American taxpayer’s money).

 

Thank god the Republicans are bringing some fiscal responsibility to the table.

 

Chaos indeed. Like most of Biden’s time in power.

Maybe you should try sticking to facts instead of rehashing debunked Republican talking points. There hasn’t been one (not one) Republican president in the last 40-50 years who has been fiscally responsible, even though Republicans keep screaming at the top of their lungs that they’re the only ones who can save the nation from the big spender Dems.

Ronald Reagan vowed to limit the size of the government, but doubled the national deficit.

Bush senior then increased the deficit by another 50%.

Bill Clinton left office with a budget surplus.

Bush junior managed to go from a $236 billion surplus to a $458 billion deficit. Quite an accomplishment.

Because of the global financial crisis, the deficit at first skyrocketed under Obama, but was then brought back to $440 billion.

Under Trump, the deficit hit more than $1 trillion.

 

You still want to maintain that Republicans are fiscally responsible? All they ever do is cut taxes for the rich, cut welfare programs and (hugely) increase the Defense budget.

 

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/030515/which-united-states-presidents-have-run-largest-budget-deficits.asp#:~:text=Donald Trump%2C Barack Obama%2C and,budget deficits in U.S. history.

[kiwikeith]

On 10/23/2023 at 7:02 PM, JonnyF said:

Quite the big spender isn’t he (on foreign projects with American taxpayer’s money).

 

Thank god the Republicans are bringing some fiscal responsibility to the table.

 

Chaos indeed. Like most of Biden’s time in power.

Printing money they haven't got to give weapons to lunatics to maim and kill, meanwhile poor are dying in the streets, and the arm's manufacturers are getting fatter and fatter 

[Presnock]

unfortunately, the US politicians are first of all, POLITICIANS and in my opinion, like in other countries in which I have lived, consider themselves entitled to make as much money for themselves and their families.  They may come into an elected office with dreams of "solving" the problems of their nation.  Soon though they seem to learn how easy it is to fatten their wallets - corruption is the current word used.  Some countries try to pass laws preventing such corruption but the law that is passed if possible, is too weak or watered down because who wants to kill the goose that lays the golden egg so to speak.  Now, most western countries are infested with way too many immigrants.  Previously, the immigrants into these countries merged into different communities and assimilated into local society, many becoming productive citizens.  Nowadays with the hordes pouring in, they tend to stick together, becoming a voting

majority in many places and begin to try to change their new country to be more like the one they fled, and in doing so destroy the

society of their new country.  This is my opinion anyway but I have seen the same thing elsewhere and read stories from other  countries and it strikes me as being exactly the same.  I recall India had a story years ago, that their parliament had been trying to pass a non-corruption law unsuccessfully for 5 years.  My own congress failed to pass an insider trading bill recently without success.  Now I am fully aware of salaries, and when almost all the elected  officials' families are rich I begin to wonder just how is that possible.  

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6 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Printing money they haven't got to give weapons to lunatics to maim and kill, meanwhile poor are dying in the streets, and the arm's manufacturers are getting fatter and fatter 

You seem to have swallowed JonnyF's falsehood that Republicans haven't supported these expenditures.

[nauseus]

On 10/23/2023 at 1:10 PM, placeholder said:

Republican dysfunction is Biden's fault? Really?

Not what he said.

[stevenl]

24 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Not what he said.

Agreed, in which case it was just off topic tripe.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Not what he said.

You might want to look again at the topic of this thread.

[Tug]

On 10/22/2023 at 11:02 PM, JonnyF said:

Quite the big spender isn’t he (on foreign projects with American taxpayer’s money).

 

Thank god the Republicans are bringing some fiscal responsibility to the table.

 

Chaos indeed. Like most of Biden’s time in power.

Well let’s take a look at that,for less than 6% of our National defense budget this administration has bankrupted humiliated defeated destroyed one of our biggest foes protected European democracy and the world order renewing nato + gaining 2 new high quality members all of this without spilling American blood and for a righteous good cause in support of a country that asked for our help!heck I don’t know about you but I’d call that one master stroke of a move!let’s hope this new speaker isn’t a trump nutered lap poodle and does the right thing

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Agreed, in which case it was just off topic tripe.

 

The writer often produces that kind of stuff.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

You might want to look again at the topic of this thread.

 

I did but didn't need to.