Hit and run got me, I'm all broken!

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, LS24 said:

Just saw this. Glad you are on the mend. Did you choose to get a plate in your collarbone or are you going to just let nature take its course?

If you are having trouble sleeping with the cracked ribs, sleeping in an armchair might bring s bit more relief.

 

All the best with the recovery and mopping up the aftermath of the person that hit you.

Thanks,

At the moment hoping the collarbone will heal on its own. Waiting for the 5 week mark to see if it needs surgery.

 

Worst bit about the broken ribs is having to sleep flat on my back. Anything else results in severe pain.

 

Cuts and scabs all healed now, but plenty of deep blue bruises on my foot, hip, ribs, elbow and shoulder.

[sungod]

Best wishes mate, hope you have a good recovery

[sidgy]

Only just seen this thread so a bit late but wishing you all the best and a speedy recovery

[Lacessit]

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thanks,

At the moment hoping the collarbone will heal on its own. Waiting for the 5 week mark to see if it needs surgery.

 

Worst bit about the broken ribs is having to sleep flat on my back. Anything else results in severe pain.

 

Cuts and scabs all healed now, but plenty of deep blue bruises on my foot, hip, ribs, elbow and shoulder.

You might want to try sleeping semi-upright in a chair on and off, sleeping flat on your back can cause breathing difficulties.

Best wishes for your continuing recovery.

[ozimoron]

I just saw this thread. Get well soon, mate. cheers.

[Adumbration]

BM2...good to hear you are on the mend.

 

I would sue the guy and after the case is settled have him clipped.

[MangoKorat]

On 10/24/2023 at 4:21 AM, BritManToo said:

Driving Honda Cb300R back from CM immigration 90 day report Friday morning, open road slowing down for red traffic lights, car rams me from behind.

From a fellow biker, sorry to hear this and hope your recover well.

 

Something's I'll never quite get about Thailand - I can't say its never happened in the UK but in around 50 years of biking, I can't remember ever hearing about a bike being rammed from behind.

 

I spent many years in the motor trade, including accident repairs/recovery - when I see photos on here of cars involved in accidents - they just don't relate to my memories of damaged cars in the UK. They are often totally annihilated.

[papa al]

45 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I can't remember ever hearing about a bike being rammed from behind.

In USA the commonest M/C accident

  is bike losing control in corner.

The commonest M/C fatal accident

  is being rear-ended by a car.

[MangoKorat]

9 minutes ago, papa al said:

In USA the commonest M/C accident

  is bike losing control in corner.

The commonest M/C fatal accident

  is being rear-ended by a car.

Interesting but as I say, I've never heard of it happening. I had one accident myself when I was about 18, many of my friends have had accidents - we even lost 2 friends but nobody I know has ever been rammed from behind.

Edited November 12, 2023 by MangoKorat

[scubascuba3]

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

From a fellow biker, sorry to hear this and hope your recover well.

 

Something's I'll never quite get about Thailand - I can't say its never happened in the UK but in around 50 years of biking, I can't remember ever hearing about a bike being rammed from behind.

 

I spent many years in the motor trade, including accident repairs/recovery - when I see photos on here of cars involved in accidents - they just don't relate to my memories of damaged cars in the UK. They are often totally annihilated.

so many drunk drivers here+ looking at their phone even worse, surprising not more accidents

[MangoKorat]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

so many drunk drivers here+ looking at their phone even worse, surprising not more accidents

You may well be correct.  In fact whilst I was in Thailand in September, a woman hit the back of my car - very gently, no damage - at a traffic lights.  She had her phone in her hand when she got out of the car - which sort of gave the game away. Expect to see more of this.

[Yagoda]

Smoking weed with broken ribs is futile

[xtrnuno41]

HI BMT, how are you doing? Its been a while due to AN problems.

All going steady and well?

[BritManToo]

9 hours ago, xtrnuno41 said:

HI BMT, how are you doing? Its been a while due to AN problems.

All going steady and well?

Still housebound, another 4 weeks of arm in sling, doctor says everything healing.

 

Police station next week to discuss action to be taken. Locals are suggesting a few years jail for him, I suspect a weekend pretending to be a monk more likely.

[jerrymahoney]

I had smashed collarbone courtesy of Ford F-150 pickup while riding my bicycle early one morning in Florida.

 

First doctors said: Let's wait to if it heals. It only got worse.

 

Finally went to Florida University-Shands hospital (hand micro-surgeon specialist) and he said:

Comminuted fracture. It is not going to heal. It was never going to heal.

 

So for almost 30 years I have have a collarbone with a titanium plate and screws which is glaringly evident every time I have a chest x-ray.

[BritManToo]

14 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Comminuted fracture

=3 bits of bone broken.

I have a 'mildly displaced clavicle' = 1 break

Don't know if it makes any difference.

 

At the moment my attackers 1st class insurance pays me government minimum wage+ for every day my arm is in a sling until the doctor signs me off (4 weeks until next hospital appointment). If surgery is required, they also pay for that. As my deep muscle injuries (hip and knee) still confine me to my home, I'm in no real hurry to push forward, it's not as if I can go anywhere or do anything. Can't walk more than 20m, drive a car, or a scooter, or ride a bicycle.

 

His insurance already paid out for my wife's m/c repairs (30kbht), and the m/c has been sold.

Edited November 25, 2023 by BritManToo

[Mister T]

I got taken out by a pickup running a red light nearly 11 years ago. Spent a month in hospital and 5 major surgeries, her insurance paid about 30k. I found a good local lawyer who took it to the criminal court, I even had the police prosecutor on my side. Court ordered the maximum compensation of 550k, did not even cover the hospital bills. I wish you all the best with recovery, but take it slowly and get as much as you can from the insurance company.

[jerrymahoney]

And on a lighter note, this is from the movie script for The Electric Horseman (1979) where Robert Redford plays Sonny, a former now washed-up rodeo champion -- this is his wife looking for a divorce:

 

 

(great movie BTW)

Edited November 26, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[The Fugitive]

19 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

I had smashed collarbone courtesy of Ford F-150 pickup while riding my bicycle early one morning in Florida.

 

First doctors said: Let's wait to if it heals. It only got worse.

 

Finally went to Florida University-Shands hospital (hand micro-surgeon specialist) and he said:

Comminuted fracture. It is not going to heal. It was never going to heal.

 

So for almost 30 years I have have a collarbone with a titanium plate and screws which is glaringly evident every time I have a chest x-ray.

Most definitely undermines your confidence in the medical profession. Everyone makes mistakes, forgets (or misses spotting) things. However, as you state more than one doctor was involved and you obviously attended their clinics more than once so there isn't much excuse.

[The Fugitive]

19 hours ago, Mister T said:

I got taken out by a pickup running a red light nearly 11 years ago. Spent a month in hospital and 5 major surgeries, her insurance paid about 30k. I found a good local lawyer who took it to the criminal court, I even had the police prosecutor on my side. Court ordered the maximum compensation of 550k, did not even cover the hospital bills. I wish you all the best with recovery, but take it slowly and get as much as you can from the insurance company.

Wow! Certainly made me think. You were 100% successful in your claim but, in the end, received zero compensation and were left with the remainder of your hospital bill to pay.

[BritManToo]

45 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Wow! Certainly made me think. You were 100% successful in your claim but, in the end, received zero compensation and were left with the remainder of your hospital bill to pay.

Private hospitals charge too much.

My entire government hospital bill so far is around 8kbht (Inc about 20 x-rays) easily covered by my government minimum m/c insurance that will pay up to 30kbht. I haven't paid them anything, just hand my passport in the payment window on each visit, sign a few papers, and the insurance pays.

 

I really don't understand why everyone insists on using private hospitals, there's no waiting for emergency treatment and the same English speaking doctors usually work both hospital systems.

Edited November 26, 2023 by BritManToo

[jerrymahoney]

48 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Wow! Certainly made me think. You were 100% successful in your claim but, in the end, received zero compensation and were left with the remainder of your hospital bill to pay.

I just presume the injury entailed more surgery than the first doctors were used to doing. The Shands guy took one look at the x-ray and said basically: Surgery only option.

Edited November 26, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[Mister T]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

really don't understand why everyone insists on using private hospitals, there's no waiting for emergency treatment and the same English speaking doctors usually work both hospital systems.

Yes, I have always been happy with the gov't medical system. First hospital I was taken to would not even take me out of the ambulance. Major city public hospital took me in and put me in ICU on a ventilator, stopped the bleeding and splinted both legs and left arm. They told my friends and wife that I would not be seen by a surgeon for two days. My friend knew the big boss at his big private hospital and pulled strings to have me transported in one of their special ambulances. Literally saved my life and legs.

[charleskerins]

On 10/24/2023 at 10:21 AM, BritManToo said:

Driving Honda Cb300R back from CM immigration 90 day report Friday morning, open road slowing down for red traffic lights, car rams me from behind.

Next thing I know, police man wheeling  my m/c away, says he's taking it back to the police stn, ambulance man helping me into ambulance.

Bleeding all over.

 

5 broken ribs, broken collarbone, collapsing lung, too many cuts, bruises, road rash to list.

Without a full face helmet I would be dead.

 

San Sai government hospital were great, treated immediately, no waiting, latest equipment, doctors really efficient.

Police were great, Ambulance was great, services as fast (if not faster) and efficient as anything I've ever encountered in the UK.

Many X-rays as they're watching for blood and fluids in my body cavities. Never seen a portable X-Ray machine before, latest gear at my bed in the ward.

 

Couldn't sleep in hospital and asked to go home, after 2 nights they let me come home yesterday.

All strapped up, one leg working, 1 hand sort of working (poor motor control) other hand uninjured but strapped up to stop me pulling my collarbone out of line.

 

Pills to reduce muscle swelling, bone swelling, 3 types of pain killers,and a little 'suck toy' to keep my lung inflated.

 

Police, hospital, Government insurance, wife all liaising to recover hospital expenses (6,350bht).

I paid when I left, but will likely get it back, not a big concern for me.

 

Really surprised I'm not dead!

 

Damn     broken ribs very painful                      get better

[eisfeld]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Private hospitals charge too much.

My entire government hospital bill so far is around 8kbht (Inc about 20 x-rays) easily covered by my government minimum m/c insurance that will pay up to 30kbht. I haven't paid them anything, just hand my passport in the payment window on each visit, sign a few papers, and the insurance pays.

 

I really don't understand why everyone insists on using private hospitals, there's no waiting for emergency treatment and the same English speaking doctors usually work both hospital systems.

 

On the other hand if the other sides insurance pays and he has 1st class then why wouldn't you use a private hospital? Chance that you get better care is higher and you are still not paying anything. Doctors working for private hospitals usually have to work certain hours at public ones but there are also some that only work at public hospitals and are not exactly good. The average quality at private ones is considerably higher. No guarantees of course but better chances.

 

I've received treatment (or lack thereof) at a public hospital that if I hadn't switched to a private one I probably wouldn't be able to write this post. If it's something serious then I go to a private hospital, not going to gamble with my health.

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, eisfeld said:

On the other hand if the other sides insurance pays and he has 1st class then why wouldn't you use a private hospital?

In my case, it was 2 weeks before the police caught the guy, and his insurance agreed to pay, who could have predicted he'd have been tracked down or had any insurance at all, let alone 1st class?

 

By then the emergency treatment was all finished, and I was lying on the sofa at home, looking like 'the mummy'.

Thought I'd be paying my own bills.

Also the accident was on a Friday, my government minimum insurance didn't agree to pay until the Monday, so I'd already handed over 6k on Sunday (in a private hospital that would have been more like 60k), then the hospital handed it back Monday.

 

Not to mention, my local government hospital was only built last year, packed with the most modern equipment. I didn't even know portable x-ray machines existed until they wheeled one over to my bed in the ward and started snapping away. They didn't want to move me in case my collapsed lung and broken ribs started bleeding internally. The doctor had already told my wife right at admittance that I might not survive. I'm guessing the operating theatres are just as modern as anywhere in the world.

Edited November 26, 2023 by BritManToo

[eisfeld]

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In my case, it was 2 weeks before the police caught the guy, and his insurance agreed to pay, who could have predicted he'd have been tracked down or had any insurance at all, let alone 1st class?

 

By then the emergency treatment was all finished, and I was lying on the sofa at home, looking like 'the mummy'.

Thought I'd be paying my own bills.

Also the accident was on a Friday, my government minimum insurance didn't agree to pay until the Monday, so I'd already handed over 6k on Sunday (in a private hospital that would have been more like 60k), then the hospital handed it back Monday.

 

Not to mention, my local government hospital was only built last year, packed with the most modern equipment. I didn't even know portable x-ray machines existed until they wheeled one over to my bed in the ward and started snapping away. They didn't want to move me in case my collapsed lung and broken ribs started bleeding internally. The doctor had already told my wife right at admittance that I might not survive. I'm guessing the operating theatres are just as modern as anywhere in the world.

 

Fair enough. I don't know why I forgot it was a hit and run, it's right there in the title of the topic :) Yea of course in that case you wont know if they'll pay or you'll sit on the costs.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 11/10/2023 at 1:37 PM, BritManToo said:

Seen the hitters police report, he admits to following me and running me down because my bag knocked his car.

Try to be more careful next time.

 

Last year, I was in the gym and some guy brushed past this steroid freak, omg, the crazy steroid guy lost it, bashed him senseless.

 

Road rage is too common, too many idiots on our roads.

 

Always take care out there, I have a habit these days, for Thais, I give way to everyone, never sound the horn (that antagonizes drivers) unless it's a safety issue.

 

I see lots of mean complaining foreigners on our roads these days, these foreigners should be careful, as can be shown above the Thais will use their vehicles as a weapon, some carry firearms and will shoot you dead without hesitation.

 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

14 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Try to be more careful next time.

 

Last year, I was in the gym and some guy brushed past this steroid freak, omg, the crazy steroid guy lost it, bashed him senseless.

 

Road rage is too common, too many idiots on our roads.

 

Always take care out there, I have a habit these days, for Thais, I give way to everyone, never sound the horn (that antagonizes drivers) unless it's a safety issue.

 

I see lots of mean complaining foreigners on our roads these days, these foreigners should be careful, as can be shown above the Thais will use their vehicles as a weapon, some carry firearms and will shoot you dead without hesitation.

 

 

I forgot to say...

I hope you make a full recovery and you are back on your bike soon.

 

Nothing better than riding your bike down the road on a beautiful day, it takes away the stress of life's day to day challenges.

Edited November 28, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[papa al]

19 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

some carry firearms and will shoot you dead without hesitation.

 

Like cops in USA.

>1000/year