House elects Mike Johnson as Speaker, ending GOP chaos

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21 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

MAGA Mike states that school shootings are the fault of feminism. teaching evolution and divorce etc.

 

He also suggests that sex outside of marriage should be banned.

 

Yet, he is an avid supporter the twice divorced and 'grab 'em by the p*ssy' proven rapist.

 

 

 

MAGA Mike states that school shootings are the fault of feminism. teaching evolution and divorce etc.

He also suggests that sex outside of marriage should be banned.

Yet, he is an avid supporter the twice divorced and 'grab 'em by the p*ssy' proven rapist.

 

Jeez....you couldn't make this stuff up. Unbelievable.

[bendejo]

How long will he last as Speaker?  My guess is out by year's end or early January.  Let's see what happens with the budget; on the bright side, the GOP's long-touted farce about not spending sacred taxpayer money may finally be exposed and come to a head, like the ugly pus-wart that it is.

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

5 hours ago, bendejo said:

How long will he last as Speaker?  My guess is out by year's end or early January.  Let's see what happens with the budget; on the bright side, the GOP's long-touted farce about not spending sacred taxpayer money may finally be exposed and come to a head, like the ugly pus-wart that it is.

 

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the economy today. Since Biden took office, the typical American family has effectively lost $7,300 in annual income. The monthly mortgage payment on a median price home has more than doubled. It will cost 25 percent more to heat your home this winter. Rents are at record highs. Americans are drowning in over $1 trillion of credit card debt.

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the economy today. Since Biden took office, the typical American family has effectively lost $7,300 in annual income. The monthly mortgage payment on a median price home has more than doubled. It will cost 25 percent more to heat your home this winter. Rents are at record highs. Americans are drowning in over $1 trillion of credit card debt.

Links to these claims please?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the economy today. Since Biden took office, the typical American family has effectively lost $7,300 in annual income. The monthly mortgage payment on a median price home has more than doubled. It will cost 25 percent more to heat your home this winter. Rents are at record highs. Americans are drowning in over $1 trillion of credit card debt.

Are you aware that the President has limited control of the economy?  The Federal Reserve controls interest rates, the market controls home prices, global energy prices control energy costs, etc.

 

Are you also aware that countries that try to micromanage their economies rarely succeed for long?

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3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the economy today. Since Biden took office, the typical American family has effectively lost $7,300 in annual income. The monthly mortgage payment on a median price home has more than doubled. It will cost 25 percent more to heat your home this winter. Rents are at record highs. Americans are drowning in over $1 trillion of credit card debt.

And how did the economy do during Trump's last year in office?

[Chomper Higgot]

The honeymoon is over already:

 

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-condemned-by-far-right-for-comments-on-his-black-son-and-george-floyd-undercover-democrat/

 

[retarius]

I don't know this guy from Adam but his first declared statement, that China, Russia and Iran, were the new axis of evil, seems designed to spread chaos not end it. Anyway, from my view he forgot that the axis oil evil is actually the uS, UK and Israel, and a c lear statement, even if it would be lying, of trying to improve the US morally , would have been welcome. As it is what the hell is the point of trying to mend relations with China (a stated aim of the administration) when your third in live to the presidency calls the Chinese "evil".

Rather stupid and myopic I think.

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6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The honeymoon is over already:

 

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-condemned-by-far-right-for-comments-on-his-black-son-and-george-floyd-undercover-democrat/

 

It figures he'd be pilloried by them for one of his few truthful public utterances.

[candide]

5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the economy today. Since Biden took office, the typical American family has effectively lost $7,300 in annual income. The monthly mortgage payment on a median price home has more than doubled. It will cost 25 percent more to heat your home this winter. Rents are at record highs. Americans are drowning in over $1 trillion of credit card debt.

Strange coincidence! Most people were better off pre-Covid in other countries too. Hmmm.... what could be the reason?

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13 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the economy today. Since Biden took office, the typical American family has effectively lost $7,300 in annual income. The monthly mortgage payment on a median price home has more than doubled. It will cost 25 percent more to heat your home this winter. Rents are at record highs. Americans are drowning in over $1 trillion of credit card debt.

This is from a dubious piece of research from someone at the Heritage Foundation. Other economists have pointed out that this researcher has concocted a worst case scenario.

McCarthy says Biden has cost families $7,400, but it depends on your math

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/18/mccarthy-says-biden-has-cost-families-7400-it-depends-your-math/

 

One of the ways this dubious researcher came up with this figure is by computing what happened to average wages. The thing is, a disproportionate number of lower wage service workers had lost their jobs during the pandemic, so when they rejoined the workforce that tended to drag down the average wage. There's other stuff in the article, too, that shows how he manipulated the data. The figure other economists who use more widely accepted data is that the average family lost about $108,

[Skipalongcassidy]

21 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Links to these claims please?

GOOGLE it... it's not  rocket science... typical reaction from someone without a genuine rebuttal.

[Skipalongcassidy]

18 hours ago, placeholder said:

And how did the economy do during Trump's last year in office?

Get with it man... that was THREE YEARS ago... move on to what's happening today.

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

GOOGLE it... it's not  rocket science... typical reaction from someone without a genuine rebuttal.

Perhaps Google doesn’t reach that place where you pull your claims from.

 

Here’s something for you to grasp:

 

”Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.”

 

 

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1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Get with it man... that was THREE YEARS ago... move on to what's happening today.

What's happening today? In the latest quarter the US economy grew by 4.9%.

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1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Get with it man... that was THREE YEARS ago... move on to what's happening today.

What you clearly are immune from understanding is that almost the entire world economy experienced rapid inflation in the wake of the covid epidemic. America is doing better by far than virtually all the world's developed economies. Unemployment is extremely low. And lower income workers are actually doing better than they did before the pandemic.

[JonnyF]

20 hours ago, placeholder said:

And how did the economy do during Trump's last year in office?

 

You mean when Covid struck? 😆

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34 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You mean when Covid struck? 😆

Precisely. And did covid vanish on January 20th, 2021? And is not the entire world economy still feeling the effects of the pandemic? And despite which, is not the US economy doing better than the other major world economies? In fact, better than most of the world's developed economies?

[JonnyF]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Precisely. And did covid vanish on January 20th, 2021? And is not the entire world economy still feeling the effects of the pandemic? And despite which, is not the US economy doing better than the other major world economies? In fact, better than most of the world's developed economies?

 

Indeed. I would concur that Trump laid the foundations for a speedy recovery. It's a shame that Biden seems intent on spending much of it funding overseas conflicts but you can't win 'em all.

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7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Indeed. I would concur that Trump laid the foundations for a speedy recovery. It's a shame that Biden seems intent on spending much of it funding overseas conflicts but you can't win 'em all.

Please share with me the details of these foundations. You've made an assertion, now provide a link to credible source to support it.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Please share with me the details of these foundations. You've made an assertion, now provide a link to credible source to support it.

Sure.

 

https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Indeed. I would concur that Trump laid the foundations for a speedy recovery. It's a shame that Biden seems intent on spending much of it funding overseas conflicts but you can't win 'em all.

A small detail of US Government Budgets you seem ignorant of.

 

Congress sets them, not the President.

 

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A small detail of US Government Budgets you seem ignorant of.

 

Congress sets them, not the President.

 

 

 

It's never his fault, is it? 😆

 

Your assumptions are once again wide of the mark. Yes, Congress sets the budget. The Biden administration decides exactly where it is spent. 

 

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3569812/biden-administration-announces-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/#:~:text=Today%2C the Department of Defense,for Ukraine since August 2021.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

 

It's never his fault, is it? 😆

 

Your assumptions are once again wide of the mark. Yes, Congress sets the budget. The Biden administration decides exactly where it is spent. 

 

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3569812/biden-administration-announces-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/#:~:text=Today%2C the Department of Defense,for Ukraine since August 2021.

 

It’s always difficult explaining US Government process to people who have likely never set foot in the place.

 

There’s a thread just opened on the House  GOP Unveiling a $14.3 Billion aid package to Israel.

 

House is Congress and GOP is not President Biden.

 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[JonnyF]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s always difficult explaining US Government process to people who have likely never set foot in the place.

 

Wrong again. Been to Vegas many times. Marvellous place.

 

The fact that Congress sets the budget does not excuse Biden for the way his administration spends it. 

 

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

There’s a thread just opened on the House  GOP Unveiling a $14.3 Billion aid package to Israel.

 

House is Congress and GOP is not President Biden.

 

 

 

 

Yes I saw the thread. Did you see the link I posted? 

 

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3569812/biden-administration-announces-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/#:~:text=Today%2C the Department of Defense,for Ukraine since August 2021.

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Wrong again. Been to Vegas many times. Marvellous place.

 

The fact that Congress sets the budget does not excuse Biden for the way his administration spends it. 

 

 

Yes I saw the thread. Did you see the link I posted? 

 

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3569812/biden-administration-announces-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/#:~:text=Today%2C the Department of Defense,for Ukraine since August 2021.

 

 

 

From your link:

 

”The capabilities in this package, valued at up to $150 million”

 

Let’s compare that to the $14.3 Billion Israel aid package unveiled  by the GOP and the US Federal Government Budget 2023, estimated to be $6.3 Trillion.

 

This Biden profligacy that seems to bother you represents fractionally over 1% of the handout the GOP are eager to give Israel and 0.00235% of the Federal Budget.

 

I accept $150 million might seem a great deal of money to those whose frame of reference is a very much smaller and significantly weaker economy, but in US Federal Government Budget terms it’s chump change.

 

 

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

From your link:

 

”The capabilities in this package, valued at up to $150 million”

 

Let’s compare that to the $14.3 Billion Israel aid package unveiled  by the GOP and the US Federal Government Budget 2023, estimated to be $6.3 Trillion.

 

This Biden profligacy that seems to bother you represents fractionally over 1% of the handout the GOP are eager to give Israel and 0.00235% of the Federal Budget.

 

I accept $150 million might seem a great deal of money to those whose frame of reference is a very much smaller and significantly weaker economy, but in US Federal Government Budget terms it’s chump change.

 

 

 

The GOP already started how they would pay the 14.3 Billion. It's in the thread you alluded to. Did you not read it?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

The GOP already started how they would pay the 14.3 Billion. It's in the thread you alluded to. Did you not read it?

 

They’ve got to get it through the House first.

 

And yes we know the GOP are keen to cut the IRS, they don’t like it chasing people, particularly their very wealthy backers, to pay their tax dues.

 

Regardless, it’s a spend almost 100x that of you tell us Biden is squandering.

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yes we know the GOP are keen to cut the IRS, they don’t like it chasing people, particularly their very wealthy backers, to pay their tax dues.

 

 

Supply-side economics. 

 

Marvellous.

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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Sure.

 

https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts

 

You made an assertion that Trump laid the foundations for the recovery. The information you provided here is utterly irrelevant to that assertion.