Fertility crisis set to halve Thailand’s population in six decades

[tkramer]

7 minutes ago, Stocky said:

The people of Yala are equally indigenous, they haven't moved, the border did.

 

You are correct!

[sirineou]

7 hours ago, 2baht said:

So, the "men " have no lead in their pencil??? 🤔

Just as much lead as the country you come from or for that matter the country I come from, since the problem seems to be world wide. 

Population going down would not be so bad if it did not also affect the demographics with a higher ratio of older people  to young.  

UK birth rate 1,5

US birth rate 1.6

AU bjrth rate 1.5

The birth rate necessary to replace people that die, (Replacement rate) is 2.1 

[2baht]

Just now, sirineou said:

Just as much lead as the country you come from or for that matter the country I come from, since the problem seems to be world wide. 

Population going down would not be so bad if it did not also affect the demographics with a higher ratio of older people  to young.  

UK birth rate 1,5

US birth rate 1.6

AU bjrth rate 1.5

The birth rate necessary to replace people that die, (Replacement rate) is 2.1 

 

     I'm on board, I've got two!

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

 

     I'm on board, I've got two!

Slacker!!

start working on the .1 or have one of them put on some weight 😂

[tkramer]

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

Just as much lead as the country you come from or for that matter the country I come from, since the problem seems to be world wide. 

Population going down would not be so bad if it did not also affect the demographics with a higher ratio of older people  to young.  

UK birth rate 1,5

US birth rate 1.6

AU bjrth rate 1.5

The birth rate necessary to replace people that die, (Replacement rate) is 2.1 

 

Why do we need to replace the people that died...?

 

We are killing ourselves via 'over-population'. Any scientist with a brain will tell you that there are not enough resources on the planet to sustain the current populations.

 

In fact, the science says that Earth was 'self-sustainable' at a population of 1 billion. 

 

You can call me names, and deny...deny...deny...! But the Human Race has basically...'missed the boat'.

 

'Humanity's Ship has sailed.'

 

https://charlierose.com/videos/19176 

 

[PETERTHEEATER]

7 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Thailand's thoroughly laudable contribution to a cleaner, healthier world.

 

Unfortunately not entirely evident in my extended Khmer family, where babies keep popping out of young women with no visible means of support (sigh).

Are you a suspect?

[PETERTHEEATER]

15 minutes ago, 2baht said:

 

     I'm on board, I've got two!

That's bigamy.

[2baht]

Just now, PETERTHEEATER said:

That's bigamy.

 

     No, it's poverty!

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

This alarming situation has spurred the Ministry of Public Health to instigate measures to encourage pregnancy and subsequently manage the drastic demographic shift that the country is poised to face.

Almost every family I know are in debt to some degree or another.

They are cutting  back in every way they can, either daily consumables, luxuries, clothing general expenditure, travel etc etc.

Knocking out another child is unthinkable...

[sirineou]

3 minutes ago, tkramer said:

Why do we need to replace the people that died...?

because for economics to work we need a stable population. Not an increasing population, not a declining population but a stable population 

The short video below explains it better that I ever could 

 

[mfd101]

9 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Are you a suspect?

My b/f and I have been trying for some 11 years now. Without success.

[PremiumLane]

13 minutes ago, tkramer said:

Why do we need to replace the people that died...?

 

We are killing ourselves via 'over-population'. Any scientist with a brain will tell you that there are not enough resources on the planet to sustain the current populations.

 

What scientists? Many are saying overpopulation is bs 

[rattlesnake]

I haven't seen a pregnant woman in months.

[digger70]

Wouldn't that be nice ,Half the population Half the trouble.

 

[Shop mak]

4 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I haven't seen a pregnant woman in months.

 

Try the Philippines. They pop out babies same a popcorn machine.

[tkramer]

31 minutes ago, sirineou said:

because for economics to work we need a stable population. Not an increasing population, not a declining population but a stable population 

The short video below explains it better that I ever could 

 

 

Elon Musk is a 'greedy' MONEY GUY. This video is all about sustaining to the global 'Ponzi Scheme'.

 

It has nothing to do with 'Planetary Survival'. 

 

However, I agree with George Carlin...'Humanity's Ship has sailed...we (you and me) missed the boat'.

 

Rant and Rave all you want. And please do enjoy your memories.

 

 

[CartagenaWarlock]

5 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

As long as they do not 'resort' to 'innapropriate' Immigration to rectify that situation, like the West foolishly did, then all will be well eventually.

Interestingly, the west will survive with changed demographics due to immigration, but countries like Japan, China, and Thailand are doomed.

[tkramer]

36 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

 

What scientists? Many are saying overpopulation is bs 

 

Cool...!

 

I mean to say...thanks for that. I feel better now.

Edited October 31, 2023 by tkramer

[tkramer]

41 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

My b/f and I have been trying for some 11 years now. Without success.

 

Find a lovable puppy, or a hamster. maybe a parrot or a cockatoo.

 

[tkramer]

55 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

 

What scientists? Many are saying overpopulation is bs 

 

I'm not 'many'...I am one.

 

But I say 'You are BS'...!

 

Where are you from...Kazakhstan...?

 

(I think your visa might be expiring soon...)

 

 

Edited October 31, 2023 by tkramer

[TroubleandGrumpy]

8 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Interestingly, the west will survive with changed demographics due to immigration, but countries like Japan, China, and Thailand are doomed.

They have been saying that about Japan for decades and yet they are still doing just fine - currently third in the World.

The dangers of a declining population are no where near as bad as they say - otherwise Japan would be much worse that it is now.

Japan's population has been in decline since the 1980s - and yet they are doing just fine - 3rd largest economy in the world - a far more civilised and happy population - costs of living stabilising and no massive property price increases (overall) - readily available resources (medical etc.).

 

Economists are full of over-educated rubbish - a declining population means many good things as above - especially much more stable costs and more available resources and services - plus it means no constant additional need for more and more resources - and no increased costs due to providing new services for all the new people - population growth massively increases the costs, especially of housing in a country with limited land availability. 

 

Bringing in 100s of thousands of innapropriate immigrants (non-assimilating) every year has proven to be bad policy for the existing peoples in most western countries - rampant population growth and subsequent economic and taxation growth is not the answer to a sustainable country - in fact it has been a total failure, because there is no problem to solve.  

[sirineou]

26 minutes ago, tkramer said:

 

Elon Musk is a 'greedy' MONEY GUY. This video is all about sustaining to the global 'Ponzi Scheme'.

 

It has nothing to do with 'Planetary Survival'. 

 

However, I agree with George Carlin...'Humanity's Ship has sailed...we (you and me) missed the boat'.

 

Rant and Rave all you want. And please do enjoy your memories.

 

 

What does Elon Musk have to do with this?

 

[spidermike007]

This article is very misleading. There may be a crisis but it does not appear to be a fertility crisis, it appears to be a desire amongst many to simply reproduce less. The quality of life is declining for many, the ability to earn money is difficult, and people are just simply coming to their senses and not having kids as much as they used to. It's a very, very difficult time to bring kids into this world, and there are a lot of level-headed people that are either deciding not to do it at all, or deciding to just go with one kid.

 

This is happening in many, many countries of the world, except in Africa, where the ancient ways continue. 21 of the 22 nations with the highest birth rates are there. Woe is Africa. 

[tkramer]

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

What does Elon Musk have to do with this?

 

 

I believe he is mentioned in the Video.

[tkramer]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

"This article is very misleading. There may be a crisis but it does not appear to be a fertility crisis, it appears to be a desire amongst many to simply reproduce less. The quality of life is declining for many, the ability to earn money is difficult, and people are just simply coming to their senses and not having kids as much as they used to. It's a very, very difficult time to bring kids into this world, and there are a lot of level-headed people that are either deciding not to do it at all, or deciding to just go with one kid.

 

This is happening in many, many countries of the world, except in Africa, where the ancient ways continue. 21 of the 22 nations with the highest birth rates are there. Woe is Africa." 

 

"This is happening in many, many countries of the world, except in Africa, where the ancient ways continue. 21 of the 22 nations with the highest birth rates are there. Woe is Africa."

 

No, Woe is us...!

 

"where the ancient ways continue"

 

Where more 'primitive and less resourceful' ways continue... (but I am on your side)

 

 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2023 by tkramer

[rattlesnake]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This article is very misleading. There may be a crisis but it does not appear to be a fertility crisis, it appears to be a desire amongst many to simply reproduce less. The quality of life is declining for many, the ability to earn money is difficult, and people are just simply coming to their senses and not having kids as much as they used to. It's a very, very difficult time to bring kids into this world, and there are a lot of level-headed people that are either deciding not to do it at all, or deciding to just go with one kid.

 

This is happening in many, many countries of the world, except in Africa, where the ancient ways continue. 21 of the 22 nations with the highest birth rates are there. Woe is Africa. 

It's striking how the idea that there are too many people in the world has established itself in the collective mind. How about abolishing the IMF and accords such as the Treaty of Lisbon, which force States to borrow their money from private capital markets with interest, and use the billions thus saved to develop infrastructure and implement natalist policies?

[tkramer]

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

It's striking how the idea that there are too many people in the world has established itself in the collective mind. How about abolishing the IMF and accords such as the Treaty of Lisbon, which force States to borrow their money from private capital markets with interest, and use the billions thus saved to develop infrastructure and implement natalist policies?

 

Wait...are you saying that there are NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE WORLD...?!!

 

There are more than 20 Cannabis dispensaries in my neighborhood,  

 

but I don't think ANYBODY is smoking the '<deleted>e' that you are smoking...!

[tkramer]

"It's striking how the idea that there are too many people in the world has established itself in the collective mind."

 

Sounds like a disease to me...!!!

 

Let me guess...as a student...not very good at Math...

Edited October 31, 2023 by tkramer

[spidermike007]

9 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

It's striking how the idea that there are too many people in the world has established itself in the collective mind. How about abolishing the IMF and accords such as the Treaty of Lisbon, which force States to borrow their money from private capital markets with interest, and use the billions thus saved to develop infrastructure and implement natalist policies?

 

In my opinion the single largest issue that the world faces is overpopulation, the quality of life is declining for every single person on earth as a result of it. A shrinking population is the single most wonderful thing that could possibly happen to this planet. So if the collective consciousness is of the opinion that overpopulation is a problem, that's completely correct. And besides, babies are over rated.

[connda]

So what?  Myanmar folks will keep popping the young'uns out and in 60 years this will be ThaiMar.

Most people now reading this will be long dead.  For that matter, given the way things are going?  The only surface dwellers will be the Eloi.