Thai HIV patient admits having one-night stands with many men

[brianthainess]

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Unlikely to be true, aren't Jewish people circumsized at birth?

Almost its 8 days after birth not AT Birth.

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Almost its 8 days after birth not AT Birth.

But you said it was definitely not allowed in UK, so you were talking BS as if fact

[Kenny202]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Bangkok Red Cross, 6% of those tested have HIV, they provide updated monthly figures

They were similar figures I was told by a nurse in a village but it was closer to 10% from memory. And that is only the people tested and that is generally women at 3 months pregnancy. I don't know what the real figure would be including untested people but would have to be close to double the official figures

 

[Kenny202]

2 hours ago, discrete said:

That is all true - but only if the person with HIV (measures as HIV+) has a detectable viral load (different test).  Properly treated HIV get the viral load down to become undetectable - the correctly treated person is no longer infectious. At the same time, getting treated always means the person also gets much more aware of the need for adherence to the regime of daily pills, and living a healthier lifestyle. Kisses, scratches, condoms etc are not important. Testing <<<<, treating and having an undetectable viral load are the key here.

You have to take the Thailand factor into account when you are talking about awareness and adherence to regimes. Like I said I saw the doctor scolding endless amount of patients for not taking their meds. There are very few symptoms up until they are near the point of being at the too late stage (Aids). You know what Thais are like....no symptoms...no problem. The girl I knew went off her meds for at least 3 months during Covid. Not sure what the outcomes were. Started because her village was in lockdown for 3 weeks. Out of embarrassment she is registered out of province in another area and has to travel some distance to get them. She just didn't bother. I asked her to get on the phone maybe the hospital can send her the meds in the post or something but she just said never mind.  

[Ben Zioner]

9 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

They were similar figures I was told by a nurse in a village but it was closer to 10% from memory. And that is only the people tested and that is generally women at 3 months pregnancy. I don't know what the real figure would be including untested people but would have to be close to double the official figures

 

Why don't you stop posting garbage,  real figures here.

 

[Purdey]

No unprotected sex is a mantra pretty well-known to most people. She maybe doesn't understand that she probably didn't pass it on if they wore a condom. Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV, much lower than with anal or vaginal sex. 

[QuantumQuandry]

54 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

nah... my standards are pretty good... even without glasses. this girl, unless she has an incredibly ugly nose, eyes, and forehead looks fine to me

 

So just 'really damn ugly' is ok?  As long as it's not incredibly ugly?

Edited November 7, 2023 by QuantumQuandry

[Kenny202]

5 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Why don't you stop posting garbage,  real figures here.

 

 

What garbage? I thought we were discussing percentages of people tested.....not the overall population and known cases

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

You have to take the Thailand factor into account when you are talking about awareness and adherence to regimes. Like I said I saw the doctor scolding endless amount of patients for not taking their meds. There are very few symptoms up until they are near the point of being at the too late stage (Aids). You know what Thais are like....no symptoms...no problem. The girl I knew went off her meds for at least 3 months during Covid. Not sure what the outcomes were. Started because her village was in lockdown for 3 weeks. Out of embarrassment she is registered out of province in another area and has to travel some distance to get them. She just didn't bother. I asked her to get on the phone maybe the hospital can send her the meds in the post or something but she just said never mind.  

There was a girl I up until 2 weeks ago used to see walking around Buakhao especially around Subway, Diana Buakhao junction, very very skinny, looked homeless with AIDS, finally disappeared I reckon passed away, sad that she was left to die like that

[JBChiangRai]

3 hours ago, placnx said:

It helps but doesn't prevent transmission for certain.

 

As long as you are undetectable for last 3 months, haven't missed any doses of your HAART and haven't caught another STD, it's as close to 100% as you can measure that you can't pass it on.

 

 

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

There was a girl I up until 2 weeks ago used to see walking around Buakhao especially around Subway, Diana Buakhao junction, very very skinny, looked homeless with AIDS, finally disappeared I reckon passed away, sad that she was left to die like that

 

People who are stateless, or Laos, or Myanmar and not entitled to free meds so they ultimately die of AIDS.

[Nabby]

2 hours ago, discrete said:

That is all true - but only if the person with HIV (measures as HIV+) has a detectable viral load (different test).  Properly treated HIV get the viral load down to become undetectable - the correctly treated person is no longer infectious. At the same time, getting treated always means the person also gets much more aware of the need for adherence to the regime of daily pills, and living a healthier lifestyle. Kisses, scratches, condoms etc are not important. Testing <<<<, treating and having an undetectable viral load are the key here.

Magic Johnson must be adhering to this, as he's supposedly had it for 30+ years and looks as healthy and strong as ever. 

 

[Nabby]

24 minutes ago, Purdey said:

No unprotected sex is a mantra pretty well-known to most people. She maybe doesn't understand that she probably didn't pass it on if they wore a condom. Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV, much lower than with anal or vaginal sex. 

If you live in Asia, you'll know that a great many females (non-bar girls included) are all too happy to go unprotected. In the heat of the moment, with a young lady of 24 or so, what will you do? Hit pause and search for a condom?

[Nabby]

29 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Why don't you stop posting garbage,  real figures here.

 

I know of an American guy in his 50s now who lived in Thailand for many years, shagged more than Hugh Hefner, and at some point realized that he was HIV positive, and this went on until around 2015 or so. He's now living on his sister's couch in the western USA and he acknowledges that he probably spread it far and wide. He has a Thai gf who didn't get it, and he flies her in to the US a couple of times a  year and they have sex with a condom. I doubt this is an uncommon scenario. Honestly, to me, it's pretty obvious that Thai bar girls have too much mileage, are too jaded, and have banged more guys than most veteran porno stars combined. Thai men are bisexual drug-users. What do you think you're getting into?

[Kenny202]

4 minutes ago, Nabby said:

If you live in Asia, you'll know that a great many females (non-bar girls included) are all too happy to go unprotected. In the heat of the moment, with a young lady of 24 or so, what will you do? Hit pause and search for a condom?

 

When I was dating out of maybe 10 girls I think I was asked if I had a condom once, and it still wasn't a problem. HIV / STD aside they don't even seem to consider falling pregnant. Working girls used to be maybe 50% didn't seem to care or could be talked out of it when doing the deal in the bar. Some would ask for more money

[Sheryl]

If she was still on treatment, her viral load was likely undetectable and she would not have been infectious.

 

The biggest risk of transmission is from  recently infected people who are not yet on treatment.  Often they do not yet know they have it.

[Kenny202]

28 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

There was a girl I up until 2 weeks ago used to see walking around Buakhao especially around Subway, Diana Buakhao junction, very very skinny, looked homeless with AIDS, finally disappeared I reckon passed away, sad that she was left to die like that

I saw a lot of young kids like that in the HIV clinics. One sticks in my mind young monk cant of been much more than 18yo. Already had sores etc developing and skinny. Doctor was giving it to him he was smiling and just didn't seem to care or realize. Once upon a time once it got to proper AIDs stage (immunity level under 200?) I think back then it was a foregone conclusion. What are the survival chances now once it has gone the full course? I forget the term but it basically is how they measure your immunity. 1200 - 1500 was normal...Under 200 was classed as proper aids from memory.

[Ben Zioner]

4 minutes ago, Nabby said:

I know of an American guy in his 50s now who lived in Thailand for many years, shagged more than Hugh Hefner, and at some point realized that he was HIV positive, and this went on until around 2015 or so. He's now living on his sister's couch in the western USA and he acknowledges that he probably spread it far and wide. He has a Thai gf who didn't get it, and he flies her in to the US a couple of times a  year and they have sex with a condom. I doubt this is an uncommon scenario. Honestly, to me, it's pretty obvious that Thai bar girls have too much mileage, are too jaded, and have banged more guys than most veteran porno stars combined. Thai men are bisexual drug-users. What do you think you're getting into?

Dunno what you are trying to say, I  was responding to a post insinuating that 10% of girls 3 months pregnant would be HIV positive, which is rubbish in light of UNAIDS' figures. Can't we be serious for a minute?

 

[Nabby]

1 minute ago, Ben Zioner said:

Dunno what you are trying to say, I  was responding to a post insinuating that 10% of girls 3 months pregnant would be HIV positive, which is rubbish in light of UNAIDS' figures. Can't we be serious for a minute?

 

adding some perspective, which might be useful for some

[Ben Zioner]

3 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

I saw a lot of young kids like that in the HIV clinics. One sticks in my mind young monk cant of been much more than 18yo. Already had sores etc developing and skinny. Doctor was giving it to him he was smiling and just didn't seem to care or realize. Once upon a time once it got to proper AIDs stage (immunity level under 200?) I think back then it was a foregone conclusion. What are the survival chances now once it has gone the full course? I forget the term but it basically is how they measure your immunity. 1200 - 1500 was normal...Under 200 was classed as proper aids from memory.

Tell us what you are doing in HIV clinics, some kind of a hobby? I am asking because I could have missed something.

[Ben Zioner]

1 minute ago, Nabby said:

adding some perspective, which might be useful for some

OK you story can be true, but we can't base decisions or opinions of samples of one (known as singletons).

[scubascuba3]

45 minutes ago, Nabby said:

I know of an American guy in his 50s now who lived in Thailand for many years, shagged more than Hugh Hefner, and at some point realized that he was HIV positive, and this went on until around 2015 or so. He's now living on his sister's couch in the western USA and he acknowledges that he probably spread it far and wide. He has a Thai gf who didn't get it, and he flies her in to the US a couple of times a  year and they have sex with a condom. I doubt this is an uncommon scenario. Honestly, to me, it's pretty obvious that Thai bar girls have too much mileage, are too jaded, and have banged more guys than most veteran porno stars combined. Thai men are bisexual drug-users. What do you think you're getting into?

Contrary to popular belief I've found most girls I've talked to in Pattaya insist on a condom

[Kenny202]

59 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Tell us what you are doing in HIV clinics, some kind of a hobby? I am asking because I could have missed something.

 

I was with a woman for three years had HIV for at least the amount of time I was with her, unbeknownst to me. I been there and done it sadly. For your benefit, I didn't actually contract it, nor did my son. I accompanied her to clinics 7 or 8 times and had to take my son for follow up tests. Why do you keep using the word "us" like you are speaking for everyone or everyone shares your opinions? And the Yes, your story may be true....really appreciate your validation

Edited November 7, 2023 by Kenny202

[Ben Zioner]

24 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Contrary to popular belief I've found most girls I've talked to in Pattaya insist on a condom

"talked" ?

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

"talked" ?

Thai friendly, the rare times I've tried soi 6 and beach road 

[Ben Zioner]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Thai friendly, the rare times I've tried soi 6 and beach road 

Wink emoticon.

 

I mean i.

[stupidfarang]

21 hours ago, gargamon said:

Lucky for the men involved that, since there needs to be a transfer of body fluids from the infected, it is somewhat difficult to catch by the male in a heterosexual situation. 

Before you start commenting, learn what you are commenting about. Your statement is sooooooooooo wrong. 

[stupidfarang]

21 hours ago, bignok said:

Prep is for gays.

Are you so stupid? PrEP can be used by anyone over 16years

[Jingthing]

Assume that every casual sex partner may well be positive and many a non-casual one as well. Especially prostitutes as if I even have to say that.  Then take responsibility for protecting yourself. Nothing short of celibacy is fully risk free. End of. 

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Assume that every casual sex partner may well be positive and many a non-casual one as well. Especially prostitutes as if I even have to say that.  Then take responsibility for protecting yourself. Nothing short of celibacy is fully risk free. End of. 

Those who are gay and dabble with ladyboys are the greatest risk, I guess they know that, or not maybe

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Those who are gay and dabble with ladyboys are the greatest risk, I guess they know that, or not maybe

Most men that go with LBs are straight, but I get the point as far as risk factors. Mainstream gay men (who don't go for LBs) are definitely are quite aware of risks.