Tommy Robinson: Cenotaph clashes could mark return of far-right figure

[josephbloggs]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why is he a hypocrite ?

 

Let's start with his grandstanding about the Muslim paedophile ring because, you know, he cares about the children. Police were already on top of it and he risked jeapordising the trial by his actions which could have meant they would go free or, at least, having a re-trial. He was convicted of comtempt of court for it.  If he truly cared he would not have put the trial at risk - especially as he had been warned about it - but then again his fund raising was doing quite nicely.

 

Or how about Yaxley Lennon defending paedophile friends and people in his organisation? At least 20 members and supporters of the EDL were convicted of child sexual offences. Why didn't he clean his organisation? Oh wait but he couldn't be expected to know what every single person was up to right? Fair point. But what about his friend Richard Price - co-founder of the EDL. When he was arrested for child pornography did Yaxley Lennon lead people on the streets? Did he condemn his vile act? No, he publically supported him saying he was "stitched up" and has "no idea" how the pictures came to be on his personal computer.

 

That, my friend, is the definition of a hypocrite. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite

 

Paedopjiles only bother him when they are brown. White ones are ok.

[GarryP]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You have problems with extremists unless they're Yaxely Lennon, his pedophile infested EDL and anyone who gaslights with a portrayal of overtly offensive imagery with humor.

 

 

You seem to be lacking in logic. I have problems with all extremists. But please tell me what he has done that is extreme in this case. Pushing and shoving to the Cenotaph? I think you need to see other incidences of violence under the guise of support for Palestine. In any case, the EDL was disbanded years ago. If he is/was involved in pedophilia, he should be arrested and charged for it. 

 

As to imagery, have you heard of dark humor? There will always be someone who finds something offensive. Should that be used as an excuse to stop others finding it funny? There should really be no fixed boundaries as pointed out by Ricky Gervais. Should comedians and satirists self-sensor so you don't get upset? 

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[James105]

6 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Paedopjiles only bother him when they are brown. White ones are ok.

 

It's a shame that the police (for far too long) were only bothered by white pedophiles and not the brown ones.  If they had listened to the victims (instead of blaming the victims) of the muslim grooming gangs then perhaps they could have prevented thousands of rapes from happening to these children.  If they had done their jobs the likes of Tommy Robinson would not feel the need to highlight this.  Maybe the police could have nipped it in the bud early on, which in turn would have prevented you from being triggered whenever you hear his name, as no doubt what he says is yet another uncomfortable truth that you would prefer to pretend is not happening in the imagined utopia you reside in where every culture is wonderful, and every immigrant to the UK is a doctor, scientist or engineer making a significant contribution to the country.   

 

The police were simply too afraid of being called racist and this prevented them from doing their jobs properly.   The racists were actually the perpetrators of these rapes who were targeting the white girls as they see them as "trash" and "worthless" for their crime of being white. 

 

Tommy Robinson probably feels he can safely let the police do their jobs when it comes to white pedophiles as they do not have a history of ignoring this or blaming the victims in this case, whereas there is clear evidence that they did not do their jobs when it came to the scandal of the muslim grooming gangs.   

 

I would prefer a world without Tommy Robinson or his ilk needing to say these things, but until people are ready to have adult conversations about the epic failures of multiculturalism in the UK there will likely be more "Tommy Robinsons" in the future. 

[Chomper Higgot]

45 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

It's a shame that the police (for far too long) were only bothered by white pedophiles and not the brown ones.  If they had listened to the victims (instead of blaming the victims) of the muslim grooming gangs then perhaps they could have prevented thousands of rapes from happening to these children.  If they had done their jobs the likes of Tommy Robinson would not feel the need to highlight this.  Maybe the police could have nipped it in the bud early on, which in turn would have prevented you from being triggered whenever you hear his name, as no doubt what he says is yet another uncomfortable truth that you would prefer to pretend is not happening in the imagined utopia you reside in where every culture is wonderful, and every immigrant to the UK is a doctor, scientist or engineer making a significant contribution to the country.   

 

The police were simply too afraid of being called racist and this prevented them from doing their jobs properly.   The racists were actually the perpetrators of these rapes who were targeting the white girls as they see them as "trash" and "worthless" for their crime of being white. 

 

Tommy Robinson probably feels he can safely let the police do their jobs when it comes to white pedophiles as they do not have a history of ignoring this or blaming the victims in this case, whereas there is clear evidence that they did not do their jobs when it came to the scandal of the muslim grooming gangs.   

 

I would prefer a world without Tommy Robinson or his ilk needing to say these things, but until people are ready to have adult conversations about the epic failures of multiculturalism in the UK there will likely be more "Tommy Robinsons" in the future. 

Nonsense.

 

Yaxley Lennon has done nothing other than assemble the EDL, itself rife with pedophiles and camp on police investigations and the resulting trials.

 

He has done absolutely nothing to bring a single pedophile to Justice, though some of his pedophile EDL chums did, by letting themselves get known to the police.

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, GarryP said:

You seem to be lacking in logic. I have problems with all extremists. But please tell me what he has done that is extreme in this case. Pushing and shoving to the Cenotaph? I think you need to see other incidences of violence under the guise of support for Palestine. In any case, the EDL was disbanded years ago. If he is/was involved in pedophilia, he should be arrested and charged for it. 

 

As to imagery, have you heard of dark humor? There will always be someone who finds something offensive. Should that be used as an excuse to stop others finding it funny? There should really be no fixed boundaries as pointed out by Ricky Gervais. Should comedians and satirists self-sensor so you don't get upset? 

Are disputing the fact that the EDL founded by Yaxely Lennon had pedophiles amongst its members?

 

You what they say about hating most that which one sees in oneself?!

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Are disputing the fact that the EDL founded by Yaxely Lennon had pedophiles amongst its members?

 

You what they say about hating most that which one sees in oneself?!

I think you need to take a course in reading comprehension and perhaps throw in an extra course in logical thinking. 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I think you need to take a course in reading comprehension and perhaps throw in an extra course in logical thinking. 

Ah the personal attack already.

[josephbloggs]

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Tommy Robinson probably feels he can safely let the police do their jobs when it comes to white pedophiles as they do not have a history of ignoring this or blaming the victims in this case, whereas there is clear evidence that they did not do their jobs when it came to the scandal of the muslim grooming gangs.   

Oh my, this is hilarious. So he didn't call out the white paedophiles in his organisation because he knew they were white and the left wing police would take care of it because they hate white people????

What an absolutely deluded fanboy statement of the highest order. I have never read anything so ridiculous.

Good old Tommy protecting the children!

Edited November 15, 2023 by josephbloggs

[GarryP]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ah the personal attack already.

And your comment wasn't? At least you confirmed my comment about your reading comprehension skills. 

[tonbridgebrit]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tommy-robinson-sprayed-police-during-212238462.html

So, back home in England, there was a protest against anti-Semitism.  Tommy Robinson was there, but the organisers didn't actually want him there. Below is a newspaper photo of Tommy Robinson being arrested.





The report says " Organisers Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “No thanks. The drunken far-right thugs who came to ‘protect the cenotaph’ on Armistice Day, some of whom shouted ‘Sieg Heil’ or hospitalised police officers, are most definitely not welcome.”  "

Six million Jews died in the Holocaust. They don't want people shouting 'Sieg Heil' at their event.

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, tonbridgebrit said:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tommy-robinson-sprayed-police-during-212238462.html

So, back home in England, there was a protest against anti-Semitism.  Tommy Robinson was there, but the organisers didn't actually want him there. Below is a newspaper photo of Tommy Robinson being arrested.





The report says " Organisers Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “No thanks. The drunken far-right thugs who came to ‘protect the cenotaph’ on Armistice Day, some of whom shouted ‘Sieg Heil’ or hospitalised police officers, are most definitely not welcome.”  "

Six million Jews died in the Holocaust. They don't want people shouting 'Sieg Heil' at their event.

Have you a link to these people shouting "sieg heil", Robinson was peacefully in a cafe drinking coffee and waiting for his breakfast when the two tier police approached him, he was there as a journalist covering the peaceful demonstration and nobody had a problem with him being there, only the Old Bill. Is it up to the police now who attends demonstrations, they don't seem to have a problem with the demonstrators that are dressed as terrorist and chanting Allah Akbar plus from the rivers to the sea. It makes you wonder who gives the order to arrest peaceful protesters yet ignore death threats from others, lets have a bit of consistancy please.

The freedom of the press is fine as long as it's a left wing press.🥴

[tonbridgebrit]

11 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Have you a link to these people shouting "sieg heil", Robinson was peacefully in a cafe drinking coffee and waiting for his breakfast when the two tier police approached him, he was there as a journalist covering the peaceful demonstration and nobody had a problem with him being there, only the Old Bill. Is it up to the police now who attends demonstrations, they don't seem to have a problem with the demonstrators that are dressed as terrorist and chanting Allah Akbar plus from the rivers to the sea. It makes you wonder who gives the order to arrest peaceful protesters yet ignore death threats from others, lets have a bit of consistancy please.

The freedom of the press is fine as long as it's a left wing press.🥴

Hello there. You have to bear in mind that the organisers of the event didn't want him to be there.  

From the report   (the organisers had)  "been clear about their concerns that the man’s attendance, and that of those who were likely to accompany him, would cause fear for other participants.

“The same view has been voiced by others.

“As a result he was spoken to and warned on more than one occasion that his continued presence in the area was likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to others.

“He was directed to leave the area but refused to do so.”

Edited November 27, 2023 by tonbridgebrit

[Wobblybob]

5 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said:

Hello there. You have to bear in mind that the organisers of the event didn't want him to be there.  

From the report   (the organisers had)  "been clear about their concerns that the man’s attendance, and that of those who were likely to accompany him, would cause fear for other participants.

“The same view has been voiced by others.

“As a result he was spoken to and warned on more than one occasion that his continued presence in the area was likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to others.

“He was directed to leave the area but refused to do so.”

I hear what you are saying but not wanting somebody to be there does not mean he cannot attend as a journalist or a demonstrator. The organisers cannot use the police as a weapon to remove someone they don't like, as I said previously the polices job is to arrest criminals and not decide who should attend and who should not attend. Let's not run the country where innocent people are arrested and guilty people are allowed to spout their bile without consequences. On the "free Palestine" marches people were threatening to kill Jews, and the police chose to ignore their vile hatred speeches, two tier policing will not work, nor should it, same rule for everyone eh.

 

 

[josephbloggs]

28 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

he was there as a journalist covering the peaceful demonstration 🥴

 

Ah, so he's a journalist now?

[James105]

19 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said:

likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to others

 

The pro-Hamas demonstrations are likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to Jewish people in London.   Are you therefore in support of the police pepper spraying and arresting anyone peacefully participating in those marches on the same basis that you support Tommy Robinson being arrested?  Or would you prefer the laws to continue to be applied differently depending on the political views of the person involved?

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, tonbridgebrit said:

The report says " Organisers Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “No thanks. The drunken far-right thugs who came to ‘protect the cenotaph’ on Armistice Day, some of whom shouted ‘Sieg Heil’ or hospitalised police officers, are most definitely not welcome.”  "

Six million Jews died in the Holocaust. They don't want people shouting 'Sieg Heil' at their event.

 

They seem to be confused. He was there to join the protest against anti semitism, not to be anti semitic. It's elements of the Pro Palestine protesters and their cohorts on the far left that are there to cry for the elimination of Israel, not Tommy Robinson.

 

Whatever you think of him (I don't like him personally), he had as much right to be there as anyone else. The fact that he was arrested by about 30 officers for simply being there (while pro Palestine supporters were not arrested for anti-semitic songs, hate speech etc. a few days ago) tells you everyhting you need to know about the Met police. A left leaning, politically biased clown show that polices based on their political agenda. They show exactly what they are time and time again. Absolutely pathetic. 

[riclag]

24 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

The pro-Hamas demonstrations are likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to Jewish people in London.   Are you therefore in support of the police pepper spraying and arresting anyone peacefully participating in those marches on the same basis that you support Tommy Robinson being arrested?  Or would you prefer the laws to continue to be applied differently depending on the political views of the person involved?

Much easier to arrest a proud British lad who has captured the hearts of UK past !The Cultural Marxist started

this Globalization push!

God speed to the Tommie’s of the world!

 

imop

 

[JonnyF]

On 11/27/2023 at 1:20 PM, Wobblybob said:

they don't seem to have a problem with the demonstrators that are dressed as terrorist and chanting Allah Akbar plus from the rivers to the sea. It makes you wonder who gives the order to arrest peaceful protesters yet ignore death threats from others, lets have a bit of consistancy please.

 

Hardly surprising when you have Met police officers calling to free Palestine while on duty.

 

What a total joke the UK police have become. They don't even pretend to be unbiased. No wonder nobody respects them. 

 

 

[BenStark]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Hardly surprising when you have Met police officers calling to free Palestine while on duty.

 

What a total joke the UK police have become. They don't even pretend to be unbiased. No wonder nobody respects them. 

 

 

 

What would you say if they called for free Israel?

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, BenStark said:

 

What would you say if they called for free Israel?

They should not be calling for anything. At least not when on duty. 

[James105]

1 hour ago, BenStark said:

 

What would you say if they called for free Israel?

 

Nice bit of whataboutery.  Anyone can play that game.  What would you say if they were bending a knee for the EDL?

 

Policing should be carried out without fear or favour and all evidence suggests that this is not the case.    Everyone (left and right) should agree on this simple premise.   To not do so doesn't give much of a right to complain should the winds change and the political bias of the police turns to the right.  

[RuamRudy]

On 11/15/2023 at 4:37 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense.

 

Yaxley Lennon has done nothing other than assemble the EDL, itself rife with pedophiles and camp on police investigations and the resulting trials.

 

He has done absolutely nothing to bring a single pedophile to Justice, though some of his pedophile EDL chums did, by letting themselves get known to the police.

 

 

Give the poor guy a break. He can hardly be expected to clean up the EDL when he is off his face on drugs all the time, can he?

 

"The far-right activist, who has several criminal convictions and in 2014 admitted to possessing 3.48 grams of cocaine with intent to supply, claimed: “No matter where I’ve gone in the world I score … I’ve gone to f***ing Qatar, to Doha, and scored gear on the sesh while they’re all praying. Everywhere mate, every city I’ve gone to.”"

 

Tommy Robinson boasts about scoring drugs and proclaims himself 'king of whole Islam race', in newly emerged video

[RuamRudy]

On 11/28/2023 at 2:31 PM, JonnyF said:

 

Hardly surprising when you have Met police officers calling to free Palestine while on duty.

 

What a total joke the UK police have become. They don't even pretend to be unbiased. No wonder nobody respects them. 

 

 

 

What is specifically wrong about supporting the emancipation of a downtrodden and abused people?