Court Puts Off Handing Down Verdict In Yingluck Case

[webfact]

 

THE Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office-Holders today (Nov. 29) postponed handing down a verdict in a case against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra on charges of abusing power in the transfer of a National Security Council official because one of a panel of nine judges had died and a replacement still to be appointed, Naewna newspaper said.

 

As scheduled, this court was to hand down the verdict at 1.30 p.m. today but it was put off. Yingluck has been charged with violating Section 157 of the Criminal Code in the transfer of Mr. Thawin Pliensri, secretary-general of the National Security Council (NSC), to be an advisor to the Prime Minister.

 

Yingluck’s lawyer, Mr. Winyat Chatmontri, said the court has not set a new date to deliver its verdict.

 

by TNR Staff 

TOP: Former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Photo: Thai Rath

 

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[2baht]

Get yourself a flight booked, Y, no one has the gonads to arrest you, brother Tony is the big boss of bosses!

[OneMoreFarang]

It's almost funny that most convicted criminals are shown in pictures so that they look like bad guys.

But this convicted criminal is always shown as if she is a star. She is a criminal!

 

 

 

[Artisi]

Amazing Thailand, nudge nudge, wink wink. 

[mfd101]

33 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

She is a criminal!

And her heinous crime in this instance was what?

[nobodysfriend]

Of course , she will be back soon ... her  brother will take care of that .

Reunite a happy family .

It would be funny ...

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, 2baht said:

Get yourself a flight booked, Y, no one has the gonads to arrest you, brother Tony is the big boss of bosses!

He's working behind the scenes to get sister Y home...

A complete abuse of status.

[2baht]

27 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

And her heinous crime in this instance was what?

Running away!

[herfiehandbag]

28 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

And her heinous crime in this instance was what?

Being called Shinewatra.

 

Rubbing the "born to rule establishments" noses in it, by being overwhelmingly preferred by the electorate over their (the establishments) chosen candidate;

oh and sacking a senior civil servant after he publicly refused to work for her government.

Edited November 30, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[Homburg]

So the delay in this case is not down to extended negotiations over the size of the brown envelope?

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, mfd101 said:

And her heinous crime in this instance was what?

If you really don't know then you could look it up. It was in the news for years.

I give you a hint: rice scam

[khunpeer]

so after all these years, postponed again...

when will there ever be a verdict? next year?

[Huckenfell]

Leavee her alone, she did nothing wrong. It was just a political 'witch hunt' because the ruling party was afraid of her popularity . They do it every time they appear to be in danger of losing power.

[mfd101]

24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If you really don't know then you could look it up. It was in the news for years.

I give you a hint: rice scam

And did she personally profit from this (ie financially)?, or was it a political advantage?

 

In any reasonable judicial system the first might be a criminal offence, the second likely not.

[TheFishman1]

No worries her brother has had it all figured out. She’ll be back soon enough TIT.

[Huckenfell]

The poor man probably said that he was sympathic with Yingluk

[Huckenfell]

17 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

And did she personally profit from this (ie financially)?, or was it a political advantage?

 

In any reasonable judicial system the first might be a criminal offence, the second likely not.

I rather think it was the usual "Witchunt" so normal in Thai politics.

[Huckenfell]

It was a junior government worker trying to hop on the gravy train as they all do. She knew nothing about it until it was too late. Unfortunately for her that she's PM at the time.

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If you really don't know then you could look it up. It was in the news for years.

I give you a hint: rice scam

I see your Shinawatra blinkers are back on again.

You don't think it's at all coincidental that all the military led governments can literally get away with anything but when it comes to their 'competitors' (Shinawatra's, Move Forward, Thai Nation Party, the Neutral Democratic Party, Thai Raksa Chart Party, Future Forward Party), they have to be absolutely perfect or face being disbanded, barred or exiled?

Yingluk tried to give more money to her base through rice subsidies and as ill thought out as it was (and badly executed as it was), it certainly didn't warrant the criminal negligence charge she was eventually convicted of, nor the forced exile she has had to endure.  

The Shinawatra's are certainly no angels but these double standards go to the heart of the problem with Thai politics.

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by johnnybangkok

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If you really don't know then you could look it up. It was in the news for years.

I give you a hint: rice scam

This case is concerned with alleged malfeasance in transferring her National Security Advisor. He basically said in public, after she was elected, that he didn't like her or her government and was quite simply not going to co-operate with her.

 

So she sacked him, seems quite reasonable really.

 

Nothing to do with rice pledging.

[oxo1947]

So she was found guilty and sentence to 5 years--Appealed to the Supreme Court’, while waiting for their decision --done a runner. 

Whats the odds here that the Supreme Court, when it does get together will--then overturn the Guilty verdict .

 

All clear go visit your Brother in Hospital.......................

[edwinchester]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If you really don't know then you could look it up. It was in the news for years.

I give you a hint: rice scam

The verdict in this case hasn't even been reached yet.

[OneMoreFarang]

33 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

I see your Shinawatra blinkers are back on again.

You don't think it's at all coincidental that all the military led governments can literally get away with anything but when it comes to their 'competitors' (Shinawatra's, Move Forward, Thai Nation Party, the Neutral Democratic Party, Thai Raksa Chart Party, Future Forward Party), they have to be absolutely perfect or face being disbanded, barred or exiled?

Yingluk tried to give more money to her base through rice subsidies and as ill thought out as it was (and badly executed as it was), it certainly didn't warrant the criminal negligence charge she was eventually convicted of, nor the forced exile she has had to endure.  

The Shinawatra's are certainly no angels but these double standards go to the heart of the problem with Thai politics.

 

Did it ever cross your mind that the bad execution was deliberate and no accident?

Do you really think she only wanted to do something good for the farmers and somehow by accident lot of politicians and Shinawatra supporters profited?

Ok, maybe she didn't realize all this, because she only followed the orders of her brother. But she was PM and responsible for that scam. She should have made sure it was implemented correctly. And if she was not able to do that job then she should not have applied for that job.

 

Obviously others are also corrupt and greedy. As far as I am concerned, they should all be held responsible for their action. 

[crazykopite]

She will be kissing the Tarmac in a month or two it’s all been organised by the patient who is so ill that he has now spent 100 days in the police hospital 

[mikebell]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

the court has not set a new date to deliver its verdict.

Until they have conferred with her father. 

[johnnybangkok]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Did it ever cross your mind that the bad execution was deliberate and no accident?

Do you really think she only wanted to do something good for the farmers and somehow by accident lot of politicians and Shinawatra supporters profited?

Ok, maybe she didn't realize all this, because she only followed the orders of her brother. But she was PM and responsible for that scam. She should have made sure it was implemented correctly. And if she was not able to do that job then she should not have applied for that job.

 

Obviously others are also corrupt and greedy. As far as I am concerned, they should all be held responsible for their action. 

I'm not saying that stupidity didn't play a big part in all of this and I'm sure corruption also reared it's ugly head (doesn't it always in Thai politics) but it's the double standards that get me. The rice pledging scheme was an official government policy that was pledged before she was even elected and if it turned into a scam as you say, she should have done what all politicians should do and fall on her sword. To get convicted of a criminal charge was just too much but of course this favoured the military and the 'powers that be' in forcing her to leave the country. Likewise, this particular court case also smacks of extreme bias. She sacks a guy who publicly says he won't work with her government (what are you supposed to do) and for that she is getting charged with abuse of power!

Come on. Even you can see how extreme this all is and how it's one rule for the military and a different one for all of their opponents. 

[Srikcir]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

sacking a senior civil servant

As Yingluck transferred the official to the Office of the PM, she really didn't sack him from the perspective of removing him from government. He list no benefits, just power. Such transfer was within her authority. What galled her political opposition was that she replaced him with a relative who was qualified for the position. Nepotism! Abuse of Power!

Yet, when PM Prayut appointed HIMSELF also as Minister of Defense and supervisor of Department of Special Investigations -  all quiet on the Asian front. 

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, Huckenfell said:

It was a junior government worker trying to hop on the gravy train as they all do. She knew nothing about it until it was too late. Unfortunately for her that she's PM at the time.

At least both Yingluck and Thaksin were democratically elected, which cannot be said for that unelected PM who led an illegal coup and filled his personal bank and offshore accounts big style and and is now in some other big fancy important job.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

He's working behind the scenes to get sister Y home...

A complete abuse of status.

If you think that is an abuse of status, what would you call a military coup where the army steals the whole country from the Thai people?

 

Personally, I would call it righting an illegal wrong done by the army under Prayuth.

[oxo1947]

Lets not forget that after a court sized 1 billion GPB from him, from money he made corruptly  ---when his sister got into power she had the government send him $1 billion--as he says in his interview with Forbes I haven't got it all back but WE are working on that.

 

Q. Have you ever got your money from the Shin Corp process back?

I got back part of it, about $1 billion… That’s why I have money to invest.----(Forbes)

 

Wikipedia is an interesting read on the Shinawatra family--- from a bankrupt Chiang Mai policeman owing over 80,000 baht to being on the Forbes list of riches men in the world

 

How did he do that?---Just Hard work I guess.

 

** Do I think the last (and present Gov are any different)--Of course not----Do I think Yinkluck should have been allowed to stay? --Yes as corrupt as she was--she was voted in

 

 

 

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Edited November 30, 2023 by oxo1947