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4 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Its interesting that through the correct use of language, I am accused of commiting slurs and called a bigot.  That, when I have repeatedly stated that I am pro gay rights.  I think those who say I'm using slurs might want to consider the use of the term bigot!

 

Sort of takes the wind out of your sails.

 

I repeat, learn to live with your faults, deviations or whatever you wish to call them - anything other than male/female relationships is not normal, is a deviation from the norm and the result of a fault. It is not a choice, you don't just wake up one day and feel gay, you either are or you aren't - or additinally may be bi.  Either way it does not follow the norm and you need to live with that.

 

Good evening.

It's not the meaning of the words you use but your utilisation of them as perjoratives and the way you repeat them over and over again.  No one's falling for your "I'm only quoting the dictionary definition" nonsense. 

 

And being gay is not the result of "a fault".  

 

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

Black people don't have any faults, black is simply their colour.

I think you mean that your colour has no bearing on any of the faults that you may have!

Posted
1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

I think you mean that your colour has no bearing on any of the faults that you may have!

No, I just mean that colour - be that white, black,, brown or pink is not a fault.

Posted
1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

No, I just mean that colour - be that white, black,, brown or pink is not a fault.

But you stated that you believe that gay people were born that way, so why is that a fault?

Posted
1 minute ago, Baht Simpson said:

But you stated that you believe that gay people were born that way, so why is that a fault?

A gay relationship will not produce children. Any mix of colour will.

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Somehow, the "to each their own" philosophy became "you must celebrate me" philosophy. Under the "to each their own" rule, companies, media, etc. mostly pandered to the majority of consumers because that is where the money is. Somehow, they forgot. Go ask Disney and Bud Light. They all fell into the pander verse.

 

Nothing wrong with different lifestyles, just wonder what happened to marketing to the majority.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

A gay relationship will not produce children. Any mix of colour will.

No relationship produces children. Only sex can do that.  Alexander The Great was gay and had a wife and family, so did Oscar Wilde. Plenty of gay parents. 

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1 hour ago, Baht Simpson said:

No relationship produces children. Only sex can do that.  Alexander The Great was gay and had a wife and family, so did Oscar Wilde. Plenty of gay parents. 

You know exactly what I mean. Neither Alexander or Oscar produced children with another man.  If you know different, add it to the book of miracles.

Posted
1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Anyone who isn't a bigot and/or a religious fanatic understands that being gay is not a fault. Frankly I hate your poisonous bigotry, why? It causes suicides of gay youth. They hear haters like you and question their own worth as human beings especially if their parents are anti gay bigots 

Hate on. Where have I said I hate gays?  I have nothing against gays and I've forgotten just how many times I've stated that I support gay rights such as marriage etc. but:

 

1. Homosexual behaviour is not normal behaviour

2. I don't want to see homosexual behaviour - it makes me puke. Others may not be bothered.

3. I do not consider hetrosexuals as having any more worth than their gay counterparts

4. If you're gay, you're gay, learn to live with it, most people don't give a damn what you do behind closed doors but don't expect hetrosexuals to accept your behaviour - some will, some won't.

5. Why should the fact that there are gay people mean that I should change my views, what right have you to ask that I do?

6. I'm a bigot? Again? I guess you want nothing less than total acceptance - never going to happen.

 

Overall I would defend the rights of a gay person to equal treatment as far as I possibly could. That does not normalise gay behaviour or mean that it should be imposed on others. I would also state, and I know this from having a gay brother, that in many cases, some gays are out to shock and when allowed, will engage in outrageously sexual behaviour in public - to a far greater extent than I've even seen hetrosexuals do. Its neither necessary nor acceptable. 

 

If you wish to call me a bigot, I'm OK with that, your entitled to your views but I consider myself far from it - a bigot would not accept gay marriage for example. 

 

I'm happy in my soul, its not me that's having problems with accepting who I am. Huge chip on shoulder I'd suggest you try to get over it.

 

I think we've both made our views plain but I find it interesting that you expect hetrosexual people to accept gay behaviour - meaning you have no respect for our rights not to accept it. Now that's biggoted.

 

I don't see what more there is to discuss but I have no doubt that your non-acceptance will mean that you do.  You have exceeded yourself in your attempts at baiting me - up from a bigot to a hater, I'm neither but up to you.

 

Can't see the point in any further discussion.

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1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

Hate on. Where have I said I hate gays?  I have nothing against gays and I've forgotten just how many times I've stated that I support gay rights such as marriage etc. but:

 

1. Homosexual behaviour is not normal behaviour

2. I don't want to see homosexual behaviour - it makes me puke. Others may not be bothered.

3. I do not consider hetrosexuals as having any more worth than their gay counterparts

4. If you're gay, you're gay, learn to live with it, most people don't give a damn what you do behind closed doors but don't expect hetrosexuals to accept your behaviour - some will, some won't.

5. Why should the fact that there are gay people mean that I should change my views, what right have you to ask that I do?

6. I'm a bigot? Again? I guess you want nothing less than total acceptance - never going to happen.

 

Overall I would defend the rights of a gay person to equal treatment as far as I possibly could. That does not normalise gay behaviour or mean that it should be imposed on others. I would also state, and I know this from having a gay brother, that in many cases, some gays are out to shock and when allowed, will engage in outrageously sexual behaviour in public - to a far greater extent than I've even seen hetrosexuals do. Its neither necessary nor acceptable. 

 

If you wish to call me a bigot, I'm OK with that, your entitled to your views but I consider myself far from it - a bigot would not accept gay marriage for example. 

 

I'm happy in my soul, its not me that's having problems with accepting who I am. Huge chip on shoulder I'd suggest you try to get over it.

 

I think we've both made our views plain but I find it interesting that you expect hetrosexual people to accept gay behaviour - meaning you have no respect for our rights not to accept it. Now that's biggoted.

 

I don't see what more there is to discuss but I have no doubt that your non-acceptance will mean that you do.  You have exceeded yourself in your attempts at baiting me - up from a bigot to a hater, I'm neither but up to you.

 

Can't see the point in any further discussion.

Repeated use of the slur deviants.

Repeated suggestion that gay people are less than fully human -- faulted.

Basically hate speech.

Posted
59 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Repeated use of the slur deviants.

Repeated suggestion that gay people are less than fully human -- faulted.

Basically hate speech.

I have already shown that deviant is not a slur - it is the correct name for homosexual sexual behaviour.

 

I have never suggested that gay's are less than human - just that some form of fault causes them to be attracted to the same sex.  Its not a choice, its a fault.

 

Nothing like hate speech - my opinion on a subject raised by the OP.  I do not have to watch gay activity on TV and I shouldn't have to, it makes me feel ill.  I believe that I have a perfect right not to be subjected to gay activity and that TV shows etc. have a duty to issue a warning as they do with other things that may offend. Yes, offend, that's the word. Gay activity offends me but I don't in any way hate gay people - I just don't want to see gay sexual activity.

 

You on the other hand, may wish to see such things, that is your choice. We both have choices or we should have - on the rare occasions that I watch TV these days, it seems pretty hard to avoid gay activity of some sort - its even on adverts.

 

So, if you have some factual comments to make, feel free to make them - don't tell me what I am based on your own deviant views. That is views that deviate from the norm by the way. Not that you even accept the existence of a norm.

Posted
3 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

 I don't want to see homosexual behaviour - it makes me puke. Others may not be bothered.

 


I think you need therapy to understand your revulsion.

 

Most people don’t find it appealing but it doesn’t make them want to puke.

 

There is definitely something you need to get to the bottom of (excuse the pun), it’s not normal.

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Posted
14 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Normal is as nature intended for procreation 

Intended for procreation, nice invention.

Man and women who have sex without the intend of procreation (happens probably more than intended for procreation) are not normal then. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Intended for procreation, nice invention.

Man and women who have sex without the intend of procreation (happens probably more than intended for procreation) are not normal then. 

Yes and of course many straight people aren't sexually active or are not capable of reproduction. 

Interestingly lesbians are often birth mothers with a little help of some sperm.

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Posted
2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:


I think you need therapy to understand your revulsion.

 

Most people don’t find it appealing but it doesn’t make them want to puke.

 

There is definitely something you need to get to the bottom of (excuse the pun), it’s not normal.

He's admitted he's extremely and irrationally disgusted by viewing any same sex affection though it's hard to believe that he feels that way about lesbians. Apparently he has a fault.

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Posted
2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Most people don’t find it appealing

https://nypost.com/2018/03/01/1-in-4-straight-men-watch-gay-porn-survey/

"24 percent of heterosexual men say they watch gay content, while 39 percent of straight women have seen lesbian porn.

 

Survey users also ‘fessed up to some steamy offline habits — 36 percent of women polled reported having a same-gender sexual experience, while 24 percent of males surveyed said they’d hooked up with another guy"

 

https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2017/4/5/how-many-straight-men-watch-gay-porn-and-how-many-gay-guys-watch-straight-porn/

"a recent study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior in which researchers surveyed 821 adult American men who reported having watched porn in the last month [1]. Of the 534 gay men who participated, almost all (98%) had watched gay porn; however, 55% said they had watched at least some heterosexual porn. Likewise, among the 134 heterosexual men who took part in the study, almost all (99%) had watched straight porn; however, 21% said they had watched man-on-man porn...

 

...the number of people who report same-sex attractions or behaviors is much higher than the number who identify as gay...because, rather than falling into a handful of clearly defined categories–gay, straight, and bisexual–sexual attraction instead falls along a continuum. This means that people can have varying degrees of heterosexuality and homosexuality...

 

...also the fact that some of us have a lot more sexual fluidity—or the capacity for a “flexible” erotic response—than others. It was once thought that sexual fluidity was largely unique to women; however, recent research suggests that men are pretty darn sexually fluid, too...

 

... Dr. Justin Lehmiller is a social psychologist and Research Fellow at The Kinsey Institute"

 

11 hours ago, scoutman360 said:

Nothing wrong with different lifestyles

Yachting is a lifestyle. Hitting the bars is a lifestyle. A person's sexuality isn't a person's lifestyle; it is their orientation.

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Just to try and clear things up for some people here.

There is no 100% straight and there is no 100% gay.

We are all(yes you too) some where in between.

See it as a line,on one side straight on the other side gay.

You will have to figure out(most of us already know where we are)where you are on that line.

A Bi person would be somewhere in the middle .

Only homophobic people see this as a threat,maybe because they secretly crave something?

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Posted
Just now, jvs said:

Just to try and clear things up for some people here.

There is no 100% straight and there is no 100% gay.

We are all(yes you too) some where in between.

See it as a line,on one side straight on the other side gay.

You will have to figure out(most of us already know where we are)where you are on that line.

A Bi person would be somewhere in the middle .

Only homophobic people see this as a threat,maybe because they secretly crave something?

Hmm might be right there

 

To quote George Smiley

 

'The zealot is always hiding a secret fear'

Posted
7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Intended for procreation, nice invention.

Man and women who have sex without the intend of procreation (happens probably more than intended for procreation) are not normal then. 

Well I can probably count the number of times I've had sex with the intention of procreation on two hands

 

With both my wives when we decided to have kids, I thought, Yay off to the races!

 

All three times, fertile damn young stud I was they were pregnant within a month!

 

 

Posted
6 hours ago, jvs said:

Just to try and clear things up for some people here.

There is no 100% straight and there is no 100% gay.

We are all(yes you too) some where in between.

100% gay BS!

Straight men don't have sex with other men, end of!

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Posted
22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

100% gay BS!

Straight men don't have sex with other men, end of!

I never said that did i?

All i said that we are all on that line some where.If you (as a man) have a lot of close friends you are nearer the middle of the line.

If you claim to be 100% straight (again as a man) you can not have male friends.

A man of your high intellect surely can understand this?

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Just

 

35 minutes ago, jvs said:

I never said that did i?

All i said that we are all on that line some where.If you (as a man) have a lot of close friends you are nearer the middle of the line.

If you claim to be 100% straight (again as a man) you can not have male friends.

A man of your high intellect surely can understand this?

Gay is about having sex with other men, nothing more. 

If you don't have sex with other men you're straight.

If you do have sex with other men you're gay.

There's no middle ground.

 

Your ridiculous statement concerning talking with other men, could be equally applied to talking to children/dogs/etc. It's faulty logic.

 

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Hey BMT, while I have many friends like you that couldn't ever be tempted to partake, if I could count the number of "straight" men I've had sex with in my life, I'd need at least 10 hands!  So yeah, I find the continuum theory WAY more plausible.

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