King Charles praises ‘selfless’ people who form ‘backbone of society’ in Christmas speech

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   If you took your Asian Wife back to the U.K., do you think that she should be eligible to receive state benefits or not ?

Employment based or what she has contributed for, yes.

[proton]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   If you took your Asian Wife back to the U.K., do you think that she should be eligible to receive state benefits or not ?

 

She hates Leicester, in her words too cold, too dirty and too many wxgs! She would never live in a dump like the UK and I will never return other than for a holiday, when you can see how much worse it is than last time.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

She hates Leicester, in her words too cold, too dirty and too many wxgs! She would never live in a dump like the UK and I will never return other than for a holiday, when you can see how much worse it is than last time.

 

   Why go to Leicester then, go and live somewhere else in the U.K .

There are plenty of nice places in the U.K to live 

[proton]

 

49 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

She doesn't like Leicester and therefore UK is a dump.

 

That really does go a long way to explaining the dross in your opening comment on this thread.

 You must have never been there

 

 

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

 

 You must have never been there

 

 

I have.

 

Doesn't make your comment any more correct.

[proton]

24 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

I have.

 

Doesn't make your comment any more correct.

 

I left when the 70th mosque opened down the road, a white minority multi cultural hell hole now.

Edited December 26, 2023 by proton

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

 

I left when the 70th mosque opened down the road, a white minority multi cultural hell hole now.

That doesn't make your comment with regards to UK correct.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

Immigrants working lower paid jobs do not get paid less. They are subject to national living wage.

 

Also they have to earn enough to satisfy visa requirements.

 

 

So why are the local unemployed Brits not taking up these jobs was the question that I asked, that you have not answered.

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So why are the local unemployed Brits not taking up these jobs was the question that I asked, that you have not answered.

Because they generally don't want to work. Don't need to work.

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So why are the local unemployed Brits not taking up these jobs was the question that I asked, that you have not answered.

 

   If they work and get paid, then they will lose benefits and after they've paid the costs of working they might be better off on benefits 

[RuamRudy]

23 hours ago, CharlieH said:

 

King Charles has praised the work of volunteers, calling them a “selfless army of people” who form an “essential backbone of our society”.

In his second Christmas speech, the king said he was delighted that hundreds of volunteers and their representatives attended his coronation in May, saying their presence “emphasised the meaning of coronation itself, above all, a call to us all to serve one another, to love and care for all”.

 

In an apparent reference to rising homelessness, and people housing displaced victims of conflicts, such as Ukrainians, the monarch highlighted one part of the story of Jesus when “Mary and Joseph were offered shelter in their hour of need by strangers”.

 

Last Christmas he had underlined the cost of living crisis and the “great anxiety and hardship” of many struggling to “pay their bills and keep their families fed and warm”.

In November, he launched the Coronation Food Project, which will distribute otherwise wasted food to people struck by food poverty. In Monday’s speech, he said “we need to build on existing ways to support others less fortunate than ourselves”.

 

FULL STORY

 

 

If he truly cared about the lot of his peasants, he might consider myriad ways of helping - like paying taxes, paying for himself and his obscenely rich, obscenely indolent family rather than relying on the hard working people of the UK to fund their luxury. 

[RayC]

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Could you tell me what he says , I don't have 7 spare minutes to listen to it 

 

What he says is never trust a non-white, non-UK trained doctor.

 

He bases his conclusion on "Ravens are birds, all ravens are black therefore all birds are black" type logic.

[youreavinalaff]

3 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

If he truly cared about the lot of his peasants, he might consider myriad ways of helping - like paying taxes, paying for himself and his obscenely rich, obscenely indolent family rather than relying on the hard working people of the UK to fund their luxury. 

That old chestnut. The Crown Estate are net contributors to the UK economy.

 

Those hard working people you speak of do not fund the royal family.

[BritManToo]

On 12/26/2023 at 1:28 PM, youreavinalaff said:

Net migration is well under 1 million. 

 

Why use figures you can support?

 

Anyhow, if there were not any immigrants working in UK, a very large percentage of care homes would be grossly understaffed or closed down due to lack of staff. Many people in need of domiciliary care would not get it.

And the easy answer is allow foreign workers into the UK with no right to remain, same as most of the Middle East countries.

When your job ends, you leave.

No need for immigrants at all.

[youreavinalaff]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

And the easy answer is allow foreign workers into the UK with no right to remain, same as most of the Middle East countries.

When your job ends, you leave.

No need for immigrants at all.

If a foreign worker, on a visa, loses their job or the contract ends, they have 30 days to get a new job, and visa, or leave.

 

Seems your idea is already in place.

[freeworld]

On 12/26/2023 at 1:44 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Well, yes, sort of .

43 % of Asians receive state support

51 % of Black people receive state support 

Add them both together and you do get 93 %

But to get a true figure , you would have to then divide by two

Giving the figure of 46 %

 

It is still a lot and a lot of money.

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, freeworld said:

It is still a lot and a lot of money.

 

   Blacks and Asians also work and pay taxes which pays for those benefits .

 

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

That old chestnut. The Crown Estate are net contributors to the UK economy.

 

Those hard working people you speak of do not fund the royal family.

 

What has that got to do with taxes? Why is he exempt from paying his way? He did not create the crown estates and he does not manage them - he simply consumes without giving back. 

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, freeworld said:

It is still a lot and a lot of money.

But it's employment based. It's being paid for.

 

 The figures show ethnic origin. Not nationality. Many will be British citizens.

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

What has that got to do with taxes? Why is he exempt from paying his way? He did not create the crown estates and he does not manage them - he simply consumes without giving back. 

He does pay tax. Tax payers do not pay him.

 

The Crown Estate gives more than it takes.

 

That's what it has to do with taxes.

 

Your political leanings are blinding you from the truth.

[scottiejohn]

13 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

What has that got to do with taxes? Why is he exempt from paying his way? He did not create the crown estates and he does not manage them - he simply consumes without giving back. 

Wrong!

The Crown Estate is a collection of lands and holdings in the United Kingdom belonging to the British monarch as a corporation sole,  which is neither government property nor part of the monarch's private estate. 

The sovereign has an official, but not personal claim to the estate, For all practical purposes it is state property, and in part funds the monarchy. 

 These revenues proceed directly to His Majesty's Treasury, for the benefit of the British nation; a percentage of them is then distributed back to the monarch. The Crown Estate is formally accountable to the Parliament of the United Kingdom.

Crown Estate - Wikipedia

Edited December 27, 2023 by scottiejohn

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

The Crown Estate is a collection of lands and holdings in the United Kingdom belonging to the British monarch as a corporation sole, making it "the sovereign's public estate", which is neither government property nor part of the monarch's private estate. The Crown Estate in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland is managed by the Crown Estate Commissioners. In Scotland, the Crown Estate is managed by Crown Estate Scotland, since the Scottish estate was devolved in 2017.

The sovereign has an official, but not personal claim to the estate, is not involved with the management or administration of the estate, and has no control of its affairs. For all practical purposes it is state property, and in part funds the monarchy. The estate's extensive portfolio is overseen by a semi-independent, incorporated public body headed by the Crown Estate Commissioners, who exercise "the powers of ownership" of the estate.

 The revenues from these hereditary possessions have been placed by the monarch at the disposition of His Majesty's Government in exchange for relief from the responsibility to fund the Civil Government. These revenues proceed directly to His Majesty's Treasury, for the benefit of the British nation; a percentage of them is then distributed back to the monarch. The Crown Estate is formally accountable to the Parliament of the United Kingdom, where it is legally mandated to provide an annual report for the sovereign, a copy of which is forwarded to the House of Commons.

Crown Estate - Wikipedia

You've cut and pasted from Wikipedia and confirmed what I said.

 

Well done.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2023 by youreavinalaff

[scottiejohn]

35 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

You've cut and pasted from Wikipedia and confirmed what I said.

 

Well done.

 

 

Thank you.

It just shows we can agree on some things!

 

[Neeranam]

On 12/26/2023 at 12:33 PM, youreavinalaff said:

The immigrants that are here working, paying tax, NI and contributing to the economy?

 

The same immigrants that are employed in and actually keeping the healthcare industry going?

If they came legal ways, not on a blow up boat.

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

If they came legal ways, not on a blow up boat.

You clearly have not been keeping up with the conversation.

 

As an aside. A migrant arrives on a blow up boat. Their asylum application is processed and approved. They are issued an NI number. They get a job, work, pay NI and tax. They work in healthcare, in a job many Brits think is below them.

 

Does " not on a blow up boat" still apply?

[Neeranam]

Just now, youreavinalaff said:

You clearly have not been keeping up with the conversation.

 

As an aside. A migrant arrives on a blow up boat. Their asylum application is processed and approved. They are issued an NI number. They get a job, work, pay NI and tax. They work in healthcare, in a job many Brits think is below them.

 

Does " not on a blow up boat" still apply?

Does Thailand allow people to apply for asylum? 

No, they kick them back where they came from, I think the UK should do the same.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Does Thailand allow people to apply for asylum? 

No, they kick them back where they came from, I think the UK should do the same.

 

The ONLY people who get approved for asylum protection have to PROVE their lives are in danger where they came from.

[youreavinalaff]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Does Thailand allow people to apply for asylum? 

No, they kick them back where they came from, I think the UK should do the same.

There are many non Thais from neighboring countries who now live and work in Thailand, and can do so permenantly, with pink Thai ID cards because they are either stateless or are discriminated against in their country of birth.

 

I would say that's a similar system to asylum.

 

So, in answer to your question. Yes.

Edited December 27, 2023 by youreavinalaff

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

There are many non Thais from neighboring countries who now live and work in Thailand, and can do so permenantly, with pink Thai ID cards because they are either stateless or are discriminated against in their country of birth.

 

I would say that's a similar system to asylum.

 

So, in answer to your question. Yes.

Not true, pink cards are for migrant workers.

 

I think you mean the white card or "Certificate of Identity" or "White Card" which is given to some refugees. The white card is not a formal recognition of refugee status under the 1951 Refugee Convention, but it does provide some degree of protection and allows individuals to remain in the country temporarily.

[brewsterbudgen]

22 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Does Thailand allow people to apply for asylum? 

No, they kick them back where they came from, I think the UK should do the same.

A little bit of reading might enlighten you:

 

https://www.unhcr.org/th/en/unhcr-in-thailand