1duckyboy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 "the former prime minister is suffering from numerous illnesses." The issue isn't about the "numerous illnesses", but to what degree Thaksin's "suffering" is that it necessitates 6+ months of hospitalization. The proposed home-stay detention would render this question moot. So he's gotten the red carpet treatment, when is the parade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, 1duckyboy said: "the former prime minister is suffering from numerous illnesses." The issue isn't about the "numerous illnesses", but to what degree Thaksin's "suffering" is that it necessitates 6+ months of hospitalization. The proposed home-stay detention would render this question moot. So he's gotten the red carpet treatment, when is the parade? Sure... I'm guessing the home-stay detention also means (in his version of the world) that it's OK to do basic things that non prisoner detention folks can do; shopping - and who would approach him and his mafia gang and would he respond 'but be reasonably officer, it's Just 10 minutes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I am a permanent resident that owns businesses, works and pays taxes in Thailand, I have every right to comment. I'm also a PR (27 years), worked as a snr. organizational consultant for years and as an MBA lecturer for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rinato Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 A peace maker??? 😳 Did they really freaked out? Or maybe there is someone that really believe so. Can I call them deluded? Any way the shamelessness of this this administration is appalling. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Never forget! Of course, nothing to do with the fact that they had been slaughtered by the army the same day, included in a temple! 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Some posts with veiled speculative comments toward the Monarchy contravening our Forum Rules and the replies have been removed: 4. You will not express disrespect of the King of Thailand or any member of the Thai royal family whether living or deceased. You will not criticize the monarchy as an institution. Speculation, comments or discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing His Majesty The King of Thailand or the Thai royal family. You will not link to or discuss any website which contravenes this rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangkhut Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 ???? I doubt he will get any support from the thousands of left behind family and friends of the 2500 extrajudicially executed after the «war on drugs» campaign. And Im pretty sure the ditto left behinds of the 84 killed in the Tak Bai incident also will be a bit questionous about this claim… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 How delusional can one be?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Mangkhut said: ???? I doubt he will get any support from the thousands of left behind family and friends of the 2500 extrajudicially executed after the «war on drugs» campaign. And Im pretty sure the ditto left behinds of the 84 killed in the Tak Bai incident also will be a bit questionous about this claim… Do you know who 'asked' Thaksin to do the war on drugs? (Don't tell who did it, just yes or no)? (Hint: there have been no completed investigation about the war on drugs, even after Thaksin was ousted. It's been buried by the army and the Dems) Do you know who took the initiative in the Tak Hai incident? (You can answer more explicitly to this one) Edited January 5 by candide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, candide said: Of course, nothing to do with the fact that they had been slaughtered by the army the same day, included in a temple! 😃 The red-shirt occupied Bangkok for months. They had huge barricades and war weapons. The authorities ask them to leave, many times, they didn't. The authorities provided free busses for them to go home, then didn't. And then finally, much too late, the army had to remove them all. The tomato police didn't do anything. Nobody had to die. And I am sorry for the soldiers who lost their lives while doing their job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said: The red-shirt occupied Bangkok for months. They had huge barricades and war weapons. The authorities ask them to leave, many times, they didn't. The authorities provided free busses for them to go home, then didn't. And then finally, much too late, the army had to remove them all. The tomato police didn't do anything. Nobody had to die. And I am sorry for the soldiers who lost their lives while doing their job. Nobody would have died if Abhisit had done like Yingluck. Both had their legimity contested (Abhisit hadn't even been elected PM in the previous elections). One dissolved the house, switched to caretaker mode, and organised elections. The other wanted to wait until after the new army chief would be appointed in September, and sent the troops. You know who became army chief, the same Prayut who was commanding the army in Bangkok when the 19 May slaughter happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 1/4/2024 at 2:51 PM, ikke1959 said: A peacemaker and praised?? for not being in jail? for divide the Thai society more than ever?? A divided society would suit the powers that be very nicely, I'd have thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 He paid me well many times and i,ve told to say only good things about this person,or the next payment may not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham8888 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 1/4/2024 at 7:54 AM, WhatMeWorry said: I wonder how much was in this guy's brown envelope. Thailand is such a pathetically corrupt country. Same same - have a read up on the post office scandal in the uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, candide said: Nobody would have died if Abhisit had done like Yingluck. Both had their legimity contested (Abhisit hadn't even been elected PM in the previous elections). One dissolved the house, switched to caretaker mode, and organised elections. The other wanted to wait until after the new army chief would be appointed in September, and sent the troops. You know who became army chief, the same Prayut who was commanding the army in Bangkok when the 19 May slaughter happened. For those who approved Abhisit's behaviour in 2010, and are now complaining about the fate imposed to MFP, a reminder of the sequence of events: Abhisit refuses to dissolve house before nomination of army chief => Prayut army chief => coup => Junta constitution => Senators elect PM => MFP PM rejected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, candide said: 19 May slaughter Wow, is that a red village term? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr B Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 10 hours ago, Red Forever said: The only division around this issue is that the vast majority of Thais are indifferent to the ongoing circus. The HiSo of Bangkok and the fulminating farang on here need their red meat in order to satiate their hatred for an old man who they have never met and who has had no negative impact on their lives. It seems that you, and a certain number of other posters, seem to think that Thaksin is OK. I am one on whose life he did have a negative impact, but I won't go into that now. I note that he has been convicted by a Thai Court of certain crimes, which others suggest were "trumped up". I would therefore remind those who have forgotten, and inform those who never knew of some of the things around his wealth. All of it was acquired, not through normal business acumen, but through corruption. In the end he owned the AIS Corporation but, as Prime Minister, he was not allowed to have shares in any company which was a conflict of interest with his position. This has always been the case and is the basis for the action against Pita. Thaksin took care of this by, reportedly, transferring his shares to his maid and his driver. You can be assured that the "ownership" was nominal, as neither would have been able to dispose of any of them. Not long after they were transferred again, this time to his son and daughter. Even that was obviously nominal, because there was no attempt to cover up his selling of the shares to Singapore (either Singtel or Temasek Holdings) for Bt 73,000,000,000. At the time there had been a restriction on foreign ownership of strategic companies such as a telecommunications giant, which could not exceed 15%. Thaksin then arranged a Cabinet Resolution to change this and increase it to 45%, to cover his planned sale, but he actually forgot that the SET rules state that, if you hold 45% of the shares in a publicly listed company, you must make an offer for all remining shares. Many shareholders took advantage of the high offer price, leading to the foreign owners holding about 75%. More jiggery pokery was then done in terms of nominee companies to make it appear as if Thais were holding the shares which were actually held by Singapore. I have therefore never been particularly bothered about the "trumped up charges", as there should have been many more real charges pressed. If anything, it seems to have been very similar to Al Capone being caught on tax charges. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 What an utter load of nonsense. Ask the families and friends of The 2,500 from Thaksin's "war on drugs" what they think of this dreadful crawling to man who should have been in jail for life from the day after the coup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Mangkhut said: ???? I doubt he will get any support from the thousands of left behind family and friends of the 2500 extrajudicially executed after the «war on drugs» campaign. And Im pretty sure the ditto left behinds of the 84 killed in the Tak Bai incident also will be a bit questionous about this claim… Deplorable though the war on drugs was, particularly its brutal implementation, there is reason to believe that very many of the murdered 2500 were criminally involved in the drug trade.None of them deserved to die in this way but it's striking how some restrict their concern to the alleged drug dealers' families and friends (many of whom were criminals though many were not) but there never seems to be any mention or concern for the hundreds of thousands of Thais whose lives have been blighted or ended by this disgusting trade.It probably explains why most Thais of all classes supported the campaign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: What an utter load of nonsense. Ask the families and friends of The 2,500 from Thaksin's "war on drugs" what they think of this dreadful crawling to man who should have been in jail for life from the day after the coup. 51 minutes ago, jayboy said: Deplorable though the war on drugs was, particularly its brutal implementation, there is reason to believe that very many of the murdered 2500 were criminally involved in the drug trade.None of them deserved to die in this way but it's striking how some restrict their concern to the alleged drug dealers' families and friends (many of whom were criminals though many were not) but there never seems to be any mention or concern for the hundreds of thousands of Thais whose lives have been blighted or ended by this disgusting trade.It probably explains why most Thais of all classes supported the campaign. It should have been investigated and all the people responsible for it convicted! Any idea why the army and the Dems buried the investigation, while Thaksin was already ousted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 15 hours ago, Red Forever said: The only division around this issue is that the vast majority of Thais are indifferent to the ongoing circus. The HiSo of Bangkok and the fulminating farang on here need their red meat in order to satiate their hatred for an old man who they have never met and who has had no negative impact on their lives. Red Forever Is that you Takki, from the VIP section? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 15 hours ago, Ben Zioner said: Do uou know who started those fires? I'd look first at those who gained from them. I think I do, but would welcome some information. Would it really be unsafe for you to add more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangkhut Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 13 hours ago, candide said: Do you know who 'asked' Thaksin to do the war on drugs? (Don't tell who did it, just yes or no)? (Hint: there have been no completed investigation about the war on drugs, even after Thaksin was ousted. It's been buried by the army and the Dems) Do you know who took the initiative in the Tak Hai incident? (You can answer more explicitly to this one) Taksin was prime minister when both of these things took place. He was the leader of the country, nothing was initiated unless Thaksin approved it…. In a democratic country he would have been impeached and convicted for such atrocities! Instead he was prosecuted for some economical stuff… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBird Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 And that my friends is how you see that the Justice minister is on the take! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OldBird Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Mangkhut said: Taksin was prime minister when both of these things took place. He was the leader of the country, nothing was initiated unless Thaksin approved it…. In a democratic country he would have been impeached and convicted for such atrocities! Instead he was prosecuted for some economical stuff… I think you mean in a democratic country that is not corrupt. I am from the US and the Biden administration is as corrupt as it can get. He has tossed the country's borders wide open and refuses to uphold his constitutional duties. Think he is getting impeached? He is also on camera admitting to doing illegal activities he accuses his opposition of doing and is using his DOJ and FBI to go after all his political opposition. Maybe if something like this happened in Elsavidor then we would see action. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 7 hours ago, Mangkhut said: Taksin was prime minister when both of these things took place. He was the leader of the country, nothing was initiated unless Thaksin approved it…. In a democratic country he would have been impeached and convicted for such atrocities! Instead he was prosecuted for some economical stuff… About the second point: sure, we all know the army always obeys the government in this country! 😁 About the first one: you are right. In a democratic country, there would have been an investigation and people responsible for It would have been convicted. Why did the army and the Dems bury the case, as it would have been the ideal occasion to nail Thaksin? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 If he wasnt sick she be on her knees!🤣 peacemaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/4/2024 at 7:22 PM, JoePai said: Can his nose get any browner ! Never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 12 hours ago, candide said: About the second point: sure, we all know the army always obeys the government in this country! 😁 About the first one: you are right. In a democratic country, there would have been an investigation and people responsible for It would have been convicted. Why did the army and the Dems bury the case, as it would have been the ideal occasion to nail Thaksin? Then he would rise again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boedog Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Justice Minister, laughable some of the titles they give themselves, and the lies and stories they tell are amazing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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