Supreme Court to rule if Trump can run for president

[CharlieH]

 

The US Supreme Court has said it will hear a historic case to determine if Donald Trump can run for president.

The justices agreed to take up Mr Trump's appeal against a decision by Colorado to remove him from the 2024 ballot in that state.

The case will be heard in February and the ruling will apply nationwide.

Lawsuits in a number of states are seeking to disqualify Mr Trump, arguing that he engaged in insurrection during the US Capitol riot three years ago.

The legal challenges hinge on whether a Civil War-era constitutional amendment renders Mr Trump ineligible to stand as a candidate.

The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution bans anyone who has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" from holding federal office, but the former president's lawyers argue it does not apply to the president.

 

His lawyers have argued: "The Colorado Supreme Court decision would unconstitutionally disenfranchise millions of voters in Colorado and likely be used as a template to disenfranchise tens of millions of voters nationwide."

Mr Trump has also appealed against a decision by electoral officials in Maine to remove him from the ballot.

The split 4-3 decision by Colorado's high court last month marks the first time in US history that the 14th Amendment has been used to disqualify a presidential candidate from the ballot.

This is the first time the Supreme Court will consider how to interpret the clause.

Mr Trump is the current Republican front-runner for a likely rematch against President Joe Biden, a Democrat, in this November's election.

Courts in Minnesota and Michigan have dismissed attempts to disqualify Mr Trump. Other cases, including in Oregon, are pending.

 

The US Supreme Court has a conservative majority - with three justices appointed by Mr Trump when he was president.

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But they overwhelmingly ruled against him in his lawsuits challenging his defeat to Mr Biden in 2020.

The court on Friday agreed to take up the case in an expedited manner, with oral arguments scheduled for 8 February.

 

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[Trippy]

The dems are really shooting themselves in the foot if Trump can't run. All the never-trumpers might not vote for Biden if there is another choice.  

[Chomper Higgot]

A bit of a challenge for the Originalists on the bench of the SCOTUS, do they stick to their long held black and white view of how the Constitution should be interpreted or do they bow to the wishes of those who they owe their seats to?

 

Justice Gorsuch in particular is going to have a hard time squaring that particular circle.

 

 

Edited January 6 by Chomper Higgot

[Tug]

Wouldent it be splendid if they  ruled in favor of what he obviously did then no trump on the ballot the cases against him run their course and he’s put away were he belongs sadly it won’t oh well and so it goes……..

[Tug]

59 minutes ago, Trippy said:

The dems are really shooting themselves in the foot if Trump can't run. All the never-trumpers might not vote for Biden if there is another choice.  

That’s not really the issue it’s trumps obvious unfitness and his danger to our democracy we have had republican presidents before 

[gargamon]

When are the MAGA morons going to show up with their AI generated responses? I suspect they're using the right wing propaganda one from Musk. 

[BenStark]

7 minutes ago, Tug said:

That’s not really the issue it’s trumps obvious unfitness

 

Yeah I remember when he fell on stage, lost direction when getting off stage and even on his way to the White House, confused his sister with his wife, called repeatedly calls out deceased congresswoman at a White House event.

 

.........................Oh wait, that wasn't Trump

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Yeah I remember when he fell on stage, lost direction when getting off stage and even on his way to the White House, confused his sister with his wife, called repeatedly calls out deceased congresswoman at a White House event.

 

.........................Oh wait, that wasn't Trump

Don’t forget the bit where a President was rushed to the Walter Reid Memorial hospital in the middle of the night to be administered the Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test.

 

 

[Trippy]

20 minutes ago, Tug said:

That’s not really the issue it’s trumps obvious unfitness and his danger to our democracy we have had republican presidents before 

Silly me, I thought politics was only about winning.

[BenStark]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t forget the bit where a President was rushed to the Walter Reid Memorial hospital in the middle of the night to be administered the Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test.

 

 

 

Don't forget he was declared fit for duty afterwards, while the other is still deteriorating.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Trippy said:

Silly me, I thought politics was only about winning.

Tired of all this winning yet?

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, BenStark said:

 

Don't forget he was declared fit for duty afterwards, while the other is still deteriorating.

We don’t know what he was declared because the details of the incident have never been released.

 

The other guy won.

[BenStark]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

We don’t know what he was declared because the details of the incident have never been released.

 

The other guy won.

 Can't be bothered to point you in the right direction, so let's say, you win now get lost

[nauseus]

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A bit of a challenge for the Originalists on the bench of the SCOTUS, do they stick to their long held black and white view of how the Constitution should be interpreted or do they bow to the wishes of those who they owe their seats to?

 

Justice Gorsuch in particular is going to have a hard time squaring that particular circle.

 

 

 

So what color suits you?

[nauseus]

31 minutes ago, Tug said:

Wouldent it be splendid if they  ruled in favor of what he obviously did then no trump on the ballot the cases against him run their course and he’s put away were he belongs sadly it won’t oh well and so it goes……..

 

Sigh...

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

So what color suits you?

I like the bit where the extremists on the SCOTUS are now having their feet held to the fire by the guy who wants a favor from them.

 

Do they stick with their long professed principles or do they buckle?

 

The game afoot is justification to reform the SCOTUS.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 Can't be bothered to point you in the right direction, so let's say, you win now get lost

Feel free not to join any discussion you can’t deal with.

[BenStark]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Feel free not to join any discussion you can’t deal with.

 

Feel free to mind your own business, instead of telling others which discussions they can join.

 

The last thing that comes up in my mind is trying to correct a woke, since my life is too short for that

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Trippy said:

The dems are really shooting themselves in the foot if Trump can't run. All the never-trumpers might not vote for Biden if there is another choice.  

Though I am inclined to agree with you, If the Republicans want to run a many times looser , I think the Democrats should let them do so. 

But this is not about what the Democrats and Republicans want but about the constitution and what kind of behaviour is is admissible. 

Whether  it favors the Democrats or not ,is IMO immaterial 

[bugger bognor]

Thanks to biden and the never ending persecution of TRUMP the democrats have guaranteed a massive victory for trump 2024 the Dems and biden are a global embarrassment trying to remove him from the ballot wtf you should change your party name to the undemocratic snowflake party, Biden and his administration have failed total disaster and you know it can creepy hair sniffing Joe beat trump at the ballot box ? not a chance in hell that's why we have the pathetic repeated attempts to stop TRUMP by any means necessary! remember snowflakes the consequences of actually stopping TRUMP from running you wet wipes supported defunding the police gender ideoligy and the corrupt BLM riots! Disenfranchising half the population of America by removing him from the election will lead to civil unrest and possible civil war ! The world is laughing at the USA it's now officially a banana republic with senile president who should be in a home for ex pedos 

[KhunLA]

That seems like a waste of their time, unless he's been convicted of already.   Which case I missed the memo.

[impulse]

If the Dems really hustle, they can get him tossed off the ballot in about 5 states whose Repub primaries will happen before the Supreme Court decision comes out.  Then make Trump spend another few $$million and 6 months by claiming the decision may be nationwide, but it can't be retroactive.  They'll lose, of course.  Buy they will have achieved their purpose of draining Trump's energy and funds- just like the rest of their malicious, partisan prosecutions.

 

Because that's how much the Democrats love democracy.

 

 

Edited January 6 by impulse

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, BenStark said:

 

Don't forget he was declared fit for duty afterwards, while the other is still deteriorating.

PLease get back to the point This thread is not about biden, it's about trump.

[scorecard]

59 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That seems like a waste of their time, unless he's been convicted of already.   Which case I missed the memo.

I'll put it another way... seems to me that with the political affiliation so dominant there's no chance the SC will say he can't run, no matter what legal arguments are discussed. 

[KhunLA]

17 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I'll put it another way... seems to me that with the political affiliation so dominant there's no chance the SC will say he can't run, no matter what legal arguments are discussed. 

Shoes on the other foot now ...

... although, if convicted of insurrection, that would be a stretch, then the SCOTUS would have to rule against Trump.  If they didn't already rule the conviction was unconstitutional.

 

Meanwhile, trillions of tax dollars will continue to go unaccounted for, and digital currency will become a reality.

 

Edited January 6 by KhunLA

[BenStark]

19 minutes ago, scorecard said:

PLease get back to the point This thread is not about biden, it's about trump.

 

Just for you and you only, my response was about TRUMP being declared fit for duty, but maybe you are as confused as the one you don't want to hear about.

[candide]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t forget the bit where a President was rushed to the Walter Reid Memorial hospital in the middle of the night to be administered the Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test.

 

 

Gag! I remember Trump was very proud of being able to remember a few words.😃

'Person, woman, man, camera, TV': Trump insists cognitive test was difficult

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/23/person-woman-man-camera-tv-trump-insists-cognition-test-was-difficult

 

“Person, woman, man, camera, TV,” Trump explained, saying that listing the words in order was worth “extra points”, and that he found the task easy.

“They said nobody gets it in order, it’s actually not that easy. But for me it was easy. And that’s not an easy question,” he told Fox News medical analyst and New York University professor of medicine Marc K Siegel. 🤣

[scorecard]

6 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Just for you and you only, my response was about TRUMP being declared fit for duty, but maybe you are as confused as the one you don't want to hear about.

 

I was meaning allowed to run considering that he started a rebellion. Pleas advise.

[BenStark]

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

I was meaning allowed to run considering that he started a rebellion. Pleas advise.

 

Nice deflection, try to read my post and the post to which my reply was again, or find someone who can advice you to make it understand

[candide]

3 hours ago, Trippy said:

The dems are really shooting themselves in the foot if Trump can't run. All the never-trumpers might not vote for Biden if there is another choice.  

Trump would be easier to beat, indeed. That's why I am not so keen about it. However, if the SC decides to ban him, so be it! The law is the law.