Trump wins Iowa caucuses, cementing frontrunner status in 2024 race

[rudi49jr]

17 minutes ago, proton said:

God bless President Trump, Americas only hope!

America’s only hope to become a banana republic dictatotship?

[Skeptic7]

A grotesque lineup of freaks on that ballot...and the most unhinged freakazoid won in a landslide. Sickening. 🤮

[proton]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

America’s only hope to become a banana republic dictatotship?

 

Liberal tears will be flowing in November 

[Lacessit]

54 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I may have some bad news for you.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

 

Republicans vote Republican, Democrats vote Democrat.

72% of Republicans means nothing, it's the swing voters.

Approval ratings almost a year before an election also mean nothing.

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

You appear to have missed the point (again) which is of no surpise.

 

Allow me to explain the obvious. The fact that Trump is so popular with Republican voters is a good sign for the Republicans chances of winning in November. You see, if a large proportion of them wanted to vote Republican but hated Trump they might be tempted to abstain or even worse, vote Democrat. If the majority of Republican voters think Trump is "Da Man" then there is very little chance they will abstain or vote Democrat. 

 

Comprende?

And I see arithmetic isn't your strong point.

 

You say 'If the majority of Republican voters think Trump is "Da Man then there is very little chance they will abstain or vote Democrat' but as has been pointed out to you by numerous other posters, he only got 51% of the Iowa vote. This means that 49% don't want Trump. Logic (not something big for Trump fans I know) would then say there IS a very good chance that many will vote Democrat (unlikely but possible), vote independant or much more likely, abstain.

 

If this then translates to the bigger vote in November, he doesn't stand a snowballs chance of being elected because he needs ALL of the Republican vote (which is stil less than the total number of Democrats and is why the GOP always loses the popular vote) PLUS a whole swaith of the swing vote. Of course, gerrymandered districts will play their part in the ridiculous electorial college system, but the key in the election is the suburban swing voter for whom Trump is definately NOT their first choice.

 

Anyway, it's all conjecture at this point so let's see what November brings.    

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Liberal tears will be flowing in November 

Is that you cutting and pasting from 2020 again?!

[Thingamabob]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Quell surprise,I’m curious about the margin and who gets 2ond desantis spent a lot of money there

Reading the article in Al Jazeera it appears Trump obtained the backing of at least 20 of the 40 delegates. He was aiming for 40% support so he apparently did way better than anticipated. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Republicans vote Republican, Democrats vote Democrat.

72% of Republicans means nothing, it's the swing voters.

Approval ratings almost a year before an election also mean nothing.

And swing voters are not predominantly racists, they don’t look on law breaking and tax dodging as any more of an admirable trait than hate mongering and pandering to America’s enemies.

 

Every time Trump blows his dog whistle to the rightwing extremists he sends a warning to swing voters.

 

Keep it up Donny.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Reading the article in Al Jazeera it appears Trump obtained the backing of at least 20 of the 40 delegates. He was aiming for 40% support so he apparently did way better than anticipated. 

Or he was managing expectations.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

This is lol

Except that isn’t 2020.

 

But then Trump doesn’t know what year he’s in, your difficulty is no surprise.

[stupidfarang]

A lot can happen between now and the November eclections, though I am sure Trump is writing up his papers to Pardon himself from all his crimes.

[proton]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Except that isn’t 2020.

 

But then Trump doesn’t know what year he’s in, your difficulty is no surprise.

 

You voted for Biden then? lol

[Hanaguma]

15 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

A grotesque lineup of freaks on that ballot...and the most unhinged freakazoid won in a landslide. Sickening. 🤮

Yeah sure. Successful governor, governor and UN Ambassador, successful businessman..... tell me the wonderful state of the DEMOCRATIC line-up for THEIR primary campaign. Oh yeah, they aren't having one. 

[JonnyF]

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So it’s you that has the forum crystal ball.

 

 

 

My record at predicting these things is outstanding. Yours? Not so much...

[proton]

Just now, stupidfarang said:

A lot can happen between now and the November eclections, though I am sure Trump is writing up his papers to Pardon himself from all his crimes.

 

One thing for certain is that Biden will do an LBJ and withdraw, if his mrs does bully him into running again, if he did Trump will crush him.

[JonnyF]

25 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Just one in a long line of empty trolling comments from that party. Funny considering how the crybabies who supported Trump have been whining about a stolen election for the past 3 years.

 

Ironic that you would complain about trolling while trolling. 

 

The Left - they are what they accuse you of being...

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

You are (unsurprisingly) conflating two things: Trump being popular with Republican voters and Trump being popular overall. 

All this proves is he has a lock on the Republican party (something we all knew) and will (legal issues aside), get the Repuublican nomination. This is of no surprise to anyone.

The test of course will be in November when the nation votes. Then we will see.

Trump has the small problem that he will likely be a convicted felon in November.

[JonnyF]

17 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

And I see arithmetic isn't your strong point.

 

You say 'If the majority of Republican voters think Trump is "Da Man then there is very little chance they will abstain or vote Democrat' but as has been pointed out to you by numerous other posters, he only got 51% of the Iowa vote.

 

It really kills me to be the one to break this to you but [drumroll] - 51% is a majority. 

 

It would apppear that it is not I who has the problem with arithmetic. 

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah sure. Successful governor, governor and UN Ambassador, successful businessman..... tell me the wonderful state of the DEMOCRATIC line-up for THEIR primary campaign. Oh yeah, they aren't having one. 

Political parties occupying the White House typically don't have presidential primaries.

 

Your knowledge of this subject seems limited.

[Danderman123]

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And swing voters are not predominantly racists, they don’t look on law breaking and tax dodging as any more of an admirable trait than hate mongering and pandering to America’s enemies.

 

Every time Trump blows his dog whistle to the rightwing extremists he sends a warning to swing voters.

 

Keep it up Donny.

Trump has a problem with swing voters, because they don't believe him as readily as his Cult members. So, when he inevitably swings to the left for the General Election, swing voters will see right through him.

[placeholder]

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Ironic that you would complain about trolling while trolling. 

 

The Left - they are what they accuse you of being...

Your trolling was empty. Just a taunt about the future. If what I wrote was trolling, at least it was based on evidence. And if you hadn't trolled in the first place, I wouldn't have had occasion to make my comment.

[Chomper Higgot]

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

My record at predicting these things is outstanding. Yours? Not so much...

I predicted the Biden win in 2020, I’m predicting a Biden win 2024, I predicted indictments against Trump and I’m predicting convictions against Trump.

 

What did I get wrong?

 

 

Edited January 16 by Chomper Higgot

[placeholder]

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

My record at predicting these things is outstanding. Yours? Not so much...

The claims you make for your predictions may be astounding or they may be baseless. That you would make such a claim is more evidence of emptiness.

[impulse]

20 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Political parties occupying the White House typically don't have presidential primaries.

 

Your knowledge of this subject seems limited.

 

They don't usually have sitting presidents polling around 33%, either.  They're making a mistake not primarying him.

 

The Dems are leaving the party in droves, Blacks, Hispanics, and all the other Dems that see the contempt that the party elite have for the voters.

 

Edited January 16 by impulse

[Chomper Higgot]

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The Left - they are what they accuse you of being...

I see my long used observation of ‘rightwing accusation/confession’ did gain purchase then.

[placeholder]

16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Political parties occupying the White House typically don't have presidential primaries.

 

Your knowledge of this subject seems limited.

Actually, in 2012 and 2004 some states cancelled primaries. Most held them.

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

 

The Dems are leaving the party in droves, Blacks, Hispanics, and all the other Dems that see the way the contempt that the party elite have for them.

 

That's an interesting claim. Do you have any data to back that up?

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

They don't usually have sitting presidents polling around 33%, either.  They're making a mistake not primarying him.

 

The Dems are leaving the party in droves, Blacks, Hispanics, and all the other Dems that see the way the contempt that the party elite have for them.

 

I quite agree that prominent Democrats should have run against Biden. Whether fairly or not, he is a weak candidate. As for those droves, what does it say about the strength of Republican candidates that they are either slightly ahead or slightly behind Biden in the polls posing matchups?

[Lacessit]

26 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah sure. Successful governor, governor and UN Ambassador, successful businessman..... tell me the wonderful state of the DEMOCRATIC line-up for THEIR primary campaign. Oh yeah, they aren't having one. 

A successful businessman with a $250 million or more fine looming, loss-making golf courses, six or seven company bankruptcies, a failed airline, failed university, social platform losing money hand over fist.

Trying to raise campaign money ( read: paying the few lawyers still left who will work for him ) with trading cards. Yeah right.

The party occupying the White House doesn't have primaries, keep up please.

[Danderman123]

Turnout at the Iowa caucuses was low, compared with 2016. I guess only the hard core braved the elements.