Next Republican debate canceled after Nikki Haley says she'll only participate if Donald Trump does

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DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — ABC News on Tuesday canceled the next Republican presidential debate after Nikki Haley said she wouldn't participate unless former President Donald Trump takes part in it, leaving Gov. Ron DeSantis as the only candidate committed to Thursday's event in New Hampshire.

 

“We’ve had five great debates in this campaign,” Haley said in a statement, released as she campaigned in New Hampshire. “Unfortunately, Donald Trump has ducked all of them. He has nowhere left to hide. The next debate I do will either be with Donald Trump or with Joe Biden. I look forward to it.”

 

Her statement was released a day after the all-important Iowa caucuses, in which Trump marked a wide margin of victory over both Haley and DeSantis. With the two locked in a heated competition for second place in Iowa, Haley tried to make her electoral argument more about Trump than DeSantis, repeatedly echoing her refrain that her candidacy marks a turnabout from the “chaos” that follows the GOP front-runner.

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[Chomper Higgot]

Not unreasonable really.

 

 

[novacova]

9 minutes ago, stats said:

We’ve had five great debates in this campaign,” Haley said in a statement, released as she campaigned in New Hampshire. “Unfortunately, Donald Trump has ducked all of them. He has nowhere left to hide. The next debate I do will either be with Donald Trump or with Joe Biden. I look forward to it.”

Given the spread in the numbers behind Trump, there’s no need for him to debate, there are really no other republican contenders. It’s just another dog and pony show. Let’s wait and see if the Biden is up to a debate when/if the time comes.

[stevenl]

21 minutes ago, novacova said:

Given the spread in the numbers behind Trump, there’s no need for him to debate, there are really no other republican contenders. It’s just another dog and pony show. Let’s wait and see if the Biden is up to a debate when/if the time comes.

Both Biden and Trump can only loose by debating.

[EVENKEEL]

No way biden will debate anyone. Having Trump on the debate stage would be good. He really should participate.

[Danderman123]

53 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

No way biden will debate anyone. Having Trump on the debate stage would be good. He really should participate.

At this stage of his mental decline, Trump is having problems telling Biden and Obama apart.

[EVENKEEL]

16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

At this stage of his mental decline, Trump is having problems telling Biden and Obama apart.

Oh, that was a knee slapper. Now, go help joe put his jacket on.

[candide]

18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

At this stage of his mental decline, Trump is having problems telling Biden and Obama apart.

And, of course...

 

Trump defends mistaking Obama for Biden, says he’s being sarcastic 😀

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4328695-trump-defends-obama-biden-mistakes/

[BenStark]

20 minutes ago, candide said:

And, of course...

 

Trump defends mistaking Obama for Biden, says he’s being sarcastic 😀

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4328695-trump-defends-obama-biden-mistakes/

 

There is a big difference in confusing 2 people in a speech, and not knowing your sister from your wife when they both stand next to you, or not remembering where your own son died

Edited January 19 by BenStark

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/18/2024 at 3:24 AM, stevenl said:

Both Biden and Trump can only loose by debating.

Biden ( or his handlers apparently think ) certainly shouldn't be in a debate. Trump doesn't need to be. Everything he has said has been published many times, so is there anyone in America that doesn't know where he stands on anything? It's only less well known people like Hayley that need to get out and make their views known.

By not debating, she loses a rare opportunity to get herself out in the public eye. IMO the debates themselves are pointless , or at least the ones I've seen were, but they get the candidates out to a wider than normal audience.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

No way biden will debate anyone. Having Trump on the debate stage would be good. He really should participate.

He knows the media will only use it to ridicule him, so IMO he is doing the right thing by not showing up. I remember the time when the moderator was openly biased against him in the 2016 debates.

He won't lose any votes by not going on them.

[ozimoron]

On 1/17/2024 at 9:01 PM, novacova said:

Given the spread in the numbers behind Trump, there’s no need for him to debate, there are really no other republican contenders. It’s just another dog and pony show. Let’s wait and see if the Biden is up to a debate when/if the time comes.

 

In Iowa, a very red state, only 2,222 more voters voted for Trump than for other candidates. One wonders who the voters who voted for someone other than Trump would vote for in the general.

[candide]

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

No way biden will debate anyone. Having Trump on the debate stage would be good. He really should participate.

 

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Biden ( or his handlers apparently think ) certainly shouldn't be in a debate. Trump doesn't need to be. Everything he has said has been published many times, so is there anyone in America that doesn't know where he stands on anything? It's only less well known people like Hayley that need to get out and make their views known.

By not debating, she loses a rare opportunity to get herself out in the public eye. IMO the debates themselves are pointless , or at least the ones I've seen were, but they get the candidates out to a wider than normal audience.

 

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He knows the media will only use it to ridicule him, so IMO he is doing the right thing by not showing up. I remember the time when the moderator was openly biased against him in the 2016 debates.

He won't lose any votes by not going on them.

But but Biden....

What about Trump not having the balls to debate with a women he is continuously smearing and insulting....

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He knows the media will only use it to ridicule him, so IMO he is doing the right thing by not showing up. I remember the time when the moderator was openly biased against him in the 2016 debates.

He won't lose any votes by not going on them.

 

Nah, he knows they are going to ask him questions about his state of mind when organizing an insurrection. He knows that whatever he says can and will be used against him by Smith. He shouldn't be such a snowflake about a moderator being biased. Maybe he just can't answer the hard questions. You know, harder then the IQ test he aced.

[candide]

5 hours ago, BenStark said:

 

There is a big difference in confusing 2 people in a speech, and not knowing your sister from your wife when they both stand next to you, or not remembering where your own son died

Well, not even a colour-blind person would confuse Obama and Biden! 😅

 

Biden always made gaffes. In this particular case, his sister and wife were sitting behind him, and he just took them by the hand without watching them.

 

Biden's son died from burn pits exposure during the Irak war. Maybe he should have said he died from the Irak war, rather than in the Irak war?

 

[Georgealbert]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He knows the media will only use it to ridicule him, so IMO he is doing the right thing by not showing up. I remember the time when the moderator was openly biased against him in the 2016 debates.

He won't lose any votes by not going on them.

Trump is like you, hides in his own empty echo chamber, believing only his own reality.

 

Nice to see you’re still totally inconsistent, with your daily pro Trump posts after telling us you never supported him. 555555

 

 

[candide]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He knows the media will only use it to ridicule him, so IMO he is doing the right thing by not showing up. I remember the time when the moderator was openly biased against him in the 2016 debates.

He won't lose any votes by not going on them.

"The moderator was openly biased". What a joke! Trump was whining because he could not have it his way and had to follow the usual rules. You really believed him? 😃

Edited January 19 by candide

[Skipalongcassidy]

What a bunch of pompous hypocrites... you are after Trump for not debating and supporting sleepy time joe for avoiding the same thing... 

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He knows the media will only use it to ridicule him, so IMO he is doing the right thing by not showing up. I remember the time when the moderator was openly biased against him in the 2016 debates.

He won't lose any votes by not going on them.

Nothing at all to do with the media.

He just can't allow himself to be challenged on stage. He only has to lose by debating.

[LosLobo]

5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

What a bunch of pompous hypocrites... you are after Trump for not debating and supporting sleepy time joe for avoiding the same thing... 

Who is the pompous hypocrite here?

Remember Biden is the incumbent President, and it is traditional for the incumbent not to participate in primary debate.

Even Trump availed himself of this tradition in 2020, yet you would deny the same opportunity for Biden?

'No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since the first modern debate was held in 1948' except for Ford.

 

No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since Ford.

 

Edited January 20 by LosLobo

[illisdean]

46 minutes ago, xylophone said:

and believe this notorious liar, which in itself confirms what I've said above.

All politicians lie but not all politicians said "you won't get covid if you're vaccinated" (but demented fool Biden did) and not all politicians poll as low as Biden or score a record low in job approval as Biden does, if they are so successful which Biden is not and never will be. Go figure, the orange leader leads Biden, but that should not come as a surprise. Biden if he stopped lying about his involvement with his crack head sons corruption  and admitted the truth, spoke the facts as they are maybe there would be no need to impeach him to expose his massive corruption. That's some rabbit hole Biden's fallen down, his legacy will reflect all his lies, corruption and continual and epic failures. Trump will easily beat Biden in a fair election, even with all his mean tweets and fibs, compared to Biden's glaring corruption and ineptness and culminating in failures across the board. Biden trying to jail his political superiors, truly desperate despot fumbling around stoking WW3 while unable to find his SEC/DEF while the Houthi's humiliate him. True leader that Biden, maybe in a game of non-contact Parcheesi at the senior citizens geriatric care facility on a good day for him. 

 

Trump: Biden "cant Put Two Sentences Together"

Who can disagree with that Biden's obvious cognitive decay is a disaster looking for a place to happen, and well, it is all across America. 

 

Biden..."where's Deborah..."

Edited January 20 by illisdean

[Yellowtail]

15 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

At this stage of his mental decline, Trump is having problems telling Biden and Obama apart.

You mean their policies, yes? 

[Yellowtail]

 Nikki Haley does not want to debate anyone. She is just using Trump not debating as an excuse. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 Nikki Haley does not want to debate anyone. She is just using Trump not debating as an excuse. 

Meanwhile Trump thinks Nikki Haley was in charge of security at the Capitol during his attempted overthrow of the election result.

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-blames-nikki-haley-jan-6-2667010523

 

Trump is clearly ill in the head.

 

I hope he gets the care he so clearly needs. 

 

[ozimoron]

8 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

What a bunch of pompous hypocrites... you are after Trump for not debating and supporting sleepy time joe for avoiding the same thing... 

 

Debates are like sunlight. Kryponite for Trump who does not want to be asked hard questions about the insurrection or where missing documents might be or answer allegations about who he might have showed them to. It'd be like a precursor to several trials coming Trump's way.

[Galong]

Threads like this are useful in thinning out future comments on similar subjects by certain individuals. Of course, you can say whatever you want. I don't have to waste my time reading it. I'm not canceling anyone. I'm taking action to ignore people who I consider very poor sources of reliable information. I'm not here for opinions. 

FYI, I'm not a Biden fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the alternative is truly an embarrassment to my nationality. And yes, I know, that's my opinion. 😉

Hint for anyone else who wants to remove certain posters: If you hover a mouse over their avatar you'll see an option to 'ignore' that person. You then have the option to ignore posts, comments, and messages. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Galong said:

Threads like this are useful in thinning out future comments on similar subjects by certain individuals. Of course, you can say whatever you want. I don't have to waste my time reading it. I'm not canceling anyone. I'm taking action to ignore people who I consider very poor sources of reliable information. I'm not here for opinions. 

FYI, I'm not a Biden fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the alternative is truly an embarrassment to my nationality. And yes, I know, that's my opinion. 😉

Hint for anyone else who wants to remove certain posters: If you hover a mouse over their avatar you'll see an option to 'ignore' that person. You then have the option to ignore posts, comments, and messages. 

 

It's only this moment in time. Every nation has those moments. Think Maggie Thatcher, Tony Abbott, the three week UK disgrace, NIgel Farange. Victor Orban. Putin. I could go on.

[candide]

26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Meanwhile Trump thinks Nikki Haley was in charge of security at the Capitol during his attempted overthrow of the election result.

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-blames-nikki-haley-jan-6-2667010523

 

Trump is clearly ill in the head.

 

I hope he gets the care he so clearly needs. 

 

So he's not even able to lie about the right person! 😅

[ozimoron]

Just now, candide said:

So he's not even able to lie about the right person! 😅

 

Same lies, new target. Same as the birther garbage being recycled again.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Same lies, new target. Same as the birther garbage being recycled again.

As his brain dissolves into goo, the only bit left functioning is his oversized fallacy cortex.