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America and Iran step closer to the brink of war


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  On 1/22/2024 at 6:37 AM, Presnock said:

Yeah ask the regular Afghanis - those everyday workers, women students etc, if it is better now that the US soldiers left and the Taliban and ISIS

are running things?  One of the latest laws - only a female doctor can examine an Afghani woman yet Aghani women are not allowed to go to school even -how can they become a doctor to check on the females?

 

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Iran's similar to Saudi Arabia? The big deal is that Iran is calling for the destruction of Israel, but Saudi isn't. Saddam was an arch-enemy of Israel, so he had to go.

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  On 1/22/2024 at 6:27 AM, ozimoron said:

 

Trump's Abraham Accords were a direct challenge to Iran and helped provoke October 7th. A resolution between Israel and the Palestinians before the Abraham accords would have been sane.

 

There are also geopolitical concerns at work. Israel is currently in the midst of a US-brokered negotiation to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia, a major follow-up to the Abraham Accord agreements struck with several Arab countries during the Trump administration. Normalization is widely seen among Palestinians as the Arab world giving up on them, agreeing to treat Israel like a normal country even as the occupation deepens.

 

https://www.vox.com/2023/10/7/23907323/israel-war-hamas-attack-explained-southern-israel-gaza

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@ozimoron

 

Sane. Got to wonder about you using the word. A resolution between Israel and the Palestinian how? Was it even in the cards? Semi-possible? Do you think all diplomacy in the ME should be subordinate to that? Why?

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  On 1/22/2024 at 5:52 AM, Andrew65 said:

Iran is 3 times bigger, and has 3 times the population of Iraq. War with Iran? Good luck with that!

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IT is bigger and better armed and more zealous....but if the US are willing to ignore Iraq and invade from there on land while flattening Tehran from the air, I think there is a good chance that the US will win the initial conflict, but will of course lose the war eventually. It is not easy for even a superpower to invade and hold another country.

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  On 1/22/2024 at 6:27 AM, ozimoron said:

 

Trump's Abraham Accords were a direct challenge to Iran and helped provoke October 7th. A resolution between Israel and the Palestinians before the Abraham accords would have been sane.

 

There are also geopolitical concerns at work. Israel is currently in the midst of a US-brokered negotiation to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia, a major follow-up to the Abraham Accord agreements struck with several Arab countries during the Trump administration. Normalization is widely seen among Palestinians as the Arab world giving up on them, agreeing to treat Israel like a normal country even as the occupation deepens.

 

https://www.vox.com/2023/10/7/23907323/israel-war-hamas-attack-explained-southern-israel-gaza

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Great comment, Ozi, really great.

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  On 1/22/2024 at 7:26 AM, soalbundy said:

Best for Biden to strike near election time, never underestimate the cohesive power of a war, no need for boots on the ground if you aren't going to hold territory A few sentimental presidential broadcasts and his approval ratings will soar causing old stinky to fume.

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Maybe Trump moving the embassy to East Jerusalem and fostering a military alliance against Iran wasn't the best idea after all?

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  On 1/22/2024 at 12:06 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Here we go again! Old men starting wars and young men coming home in body bags. I guess Biden just didn't want to miss out on starting his very own war.

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Gotta keep selling the USA military hardware.

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Biden's final card.

 

Start a war in an attempt to win votes. Sacrificing young men for his old ego.

 

Could he sink any lower ?

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  On 1/22/2024 at 7:33 AM, Summerinsiam said:

Yet more scaremongering. Earlier we had NATO preparing for war with Russia, when in fact the key word is deterrence. Both sides are well aware that a war can never be fought between two nuclear armed sides. In this case, neither the US or Iran want a direct confrontation. Iran is content to use its proxies and the Biden administration will do anything to avoid one. While the situation is volatile, most analysts concur that it remains unlikely.

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NATO war with Russia is a realistic possibility. Russia has already fought Finland and any territorial incursions into Moldova or Poland. Or assisting Serbia to fight Kosovo again could trigger NATO involvement.

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