Federal Jury Orders Donald Trump to Pay $83.3 Million in Defamation Case

[Chivas]

How is even remotely possible that there is a very real chance of this lunatic becoming leader of the free world once again

 

America is a total laughing stock......UK was a laughing stock under Johnson but nothing he did comes remotely close to this Trump character

[G_Money]

12 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Yes, billionaires are always selling silly NFTs that portray themselves as things they are too stupid and too cowardly to be, like fighter pilots and astronauts. Billionaires also cut up the suits they wore when getting their mugshot, and then sell the threads to their cult.

 

trump does not have the funds to cover the $5 million + $83.3 million plus what Judge Engoron is going to assess him on the 31st. Despite inheriting $412 million from 'dad', and receiving a massive allowance every month from age 3 until his father died (according to his niece Mary), donny is a bit cash short. He also owes a lot via the SIVs put together for him at Deutsche Bank, so servicing his debt plus paying the penalties is going to have the guy cutting up more suits and hoping his goobers are maxed out on their Mom's credit cards yet. Lucky for him he is a bloated land whale, so his suits have a lot of material.

 

It is likely NY will simply seize his NYC properties and auction them off. Of course trump will still owe the debt on the properties.  It will be fun to watch when a crane rolls up Fifth AVe and rips his silly name off the front of his garish tower. All the Russians inside will get the shakes, as will the Chinese bank that has 3 floors in it.

And then you woke up!

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

And then you woke up!

Maybe you should wake up and smell the roses….

[jerrymahoney]

Trump lawyer Alina Habba demands details from judge on ‘troubling’ allegations he mentored E. Jean Carrol’s attorney 

Published Jan. 29, 2024, 10:06 p.m. ET

 

Donald Trump’s lawyer, Alina Habba, demanded Monday that the judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case against the former president provide “all of the relevant facts” related to an alleged conflict of interest he had with the advice columnist’s lead counsel. 

 

A jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages from Trump last week, before The Post learned from sources that Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan was once "mentor” to Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, when they both worked together in the early 1990s at the Paul, Weiss Rifkin, Wharton & Garrison law firm in Midtown. with Ms. Kaplan in any capacity — especially if there was a mentor/mentee relationship — that fact should have been disclosed before any case involving these parties was permitted to proceed forward,” Habba wrote in a letter to the judge.

 

“Lew was like her mentor,” a former Paul Weiss partner told The Post about the dynamic between Lewis Kaplan and Roberta Kaplan when they worked together at the firm.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2024/01/29/news/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-demands-details-from-judge-on-troubling-allegations-he-mentored-e-jean-carrols-attorney/

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

And then you woke up!

I've heard of people getting off charges when there are one or two. Statistically, the bigger the number, the lower the probability of acquittal.

Trump has 91 indictments to answer for. That puts him in the top 0.0001 % of people charged with felonies. It's fairly inconceivable he can be acquitted on all 91 charges. He'd have a better shot at winning a lottery.

Given the fatuous responses you have posted, I doubt you have the intelligence to comprehend basic probability and statistics. Trump is toast, unless mass insanity prevails, so he can pardon himself.

[G_Money]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I've heard of people getting off charges when there are one or two. Statistically, the bigger the number, the lower the probability of acquittal.

Trump has 91 indictments to answer for. That puts him in the top 0.0001 % of people charged with felonies. It's fairly inconceivable he can be acquitted on all 91 charges. He'd have a better shot at winning a lottery.

Given the fatuous responses you have posted, I doubt you have the intelligence to comprehend basic probability and statistics. Trump is toast, unless mass insanity prevails, so he can pardon himself.

OMG,  another one that believes everything they hear on “The View”.

 

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump lawyer Alina Habba demands details from judge on ‘troubling’ allegations he mentored E. Jean Carrol’s attorney 

Published Jan. 29, 2024, 10:06 p.m. ET

 

Donald Trump’s lawyer, Alina Habba, demanded Monday that the judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case against the former president provide “all of the relevant facts” related to an alleged conflict of interest he had with the advice columnist’s lead counsel. 

 

A jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages from Trump last week, before The Post learned from sources that Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan was once

"mentor” to Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, when they both worked together in the early 1990s at the Paul, Weiss Rifkin, Wharton & Garrison law firm in Midtown. with Ms. Kaplan in any capacity — especially if there was a mentor/mentee relationship — that fact should have been disclosed before any case involving these parties was permitted to proceed forward,” Habba wrote in a letter to the judge.

 

“Lew was like her mentor,” a former Paul Weiss partner told The Post about the dynamic between Lewis Kaplan and Roberta Kaplan when they worked together at the firm.

 

“We believe, and will argue on appeal, that the Court was overtly hostile towards defense counsel and President Trump, and displayed preferential treatment towards Plaintiff’s counsel,” Habba wrote. “Indeed, the rulings, tone, and demeanor of the bench raised significant concerns even before the New York Post’s investigative journalism unearthed these new facts.”

 

https://nypost.com/2024/01/29/news/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-demands-details-from-judge-on-troubling-allegations-he-mentored-e-jean-carrols-attorney/

Alina Habba is lucky she is not in jail after lying to Kaplan about where she was.

A conflict of interest when the two worked together over 30 years ago? So what?

The jury decided the damages bill, not the judge or plaintiff's counsel.

The New York Post is owned by News Corporation. Their brand of "investigative journalism " is lies, gossip and innuendo.

Fox is owned by News Corporation too, and that media outlet settled with Dominion for $760 odd million, rather than face court.

[ozimoron]

And until the foreperson handed her envelope to the clerk, who opened it up — she had trouble reading something, handed it to Judge Kaplan," recalled Birnbach. "And now, I'm imagining all kinds of bad things and Judge Kaplan asked her 'Is that an 'M' and what does it stand for?'

 

"And she said, 'Yes. Million.'"

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-e-jean-carroll-verdict-read/

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, G_Money said:

OMG,  another one that believes everything they hear on “The View”.

 

I get it, 91 indictments by grand juries are the figments of a fertile imagination.

Ad hominem attacks are the sign of a loser, just like Trump.

[jerrymahoney]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

A conflict of interest when the two worked together over 30 years ago? So what?

I will surmise, from the available info, that there is a former partner at Paul Weiss who knew both Judge Kaplan and Robbie Kaplan during their time together at the firm who is now suggesting that their relationship was not so professionally benign as the parties, or at least Ms. Kaplan's team, is suggesting. Maybe someone with a grudge -- who knows?

 

Judge Kaplan has as yet responded to the formal request.

 

I will note to keep things on track that Ms. Kaplan is out gay and most likely was during her time at the firm.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Maybe someone with a grudge -- who knows?

 

No doubt about it, Trump has a grudge, it $86.3 million worth of a grudge. 

[CharlieH]

Please do not make wild claims or present information as fact without supporting it with a link to a credible source. If you choose not to do this, your post will be removed, and your ability to participate may be removed.

 

Support your claims/statement or dont post it.

[candide]

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump lawyer Alina Habba demands details from judge on ‘troubling’ allegations he mentored E. Jean Carrol’s attorney 

Published Jan. 29, 2024, 10:06 p.m. ET

 

Donald Trump’s lawyer, Alina Habba, demanded Monday that the judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case against the former president provide “all of the relevant facts” related to an alleged conflict of interest he had with the advice columnist’s lead counsel. 

 

A jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages from Trump last week, before The Post learned from sources that Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan was once

"mentor” to Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, when they both worked together in the early 1990s at the Paul, Weiss Rifkin, Wharton & Garrison law firm in Midtown. with Ms. Kaplan in any capacity — especially if there was a mentor/mentee relationship — that fact should have been disclosed before any case involving these parties was permitted to proceed forward,” Habba wrote in a letter to the judge.

 

“Lew was like her mentor,” a former Paul Weiss partner told The Post about the dynamic between Lewis Kaplan and Roberta Kaplan when they worked together at the firm.

 

“We believe, and will argue on appeal, that the Court was overtly hostile towards defense counsel and President Trump, and displayed preferential treatment towards Plaintiff’s counsel,” Habba wrote. “Indeed, the rulings, tone, and demeanor of the bench raised significant concerns even before the New York Post’s investigative journalism unearthed these new facts.”

 

https://nypost.com/2024/01/29/news/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-demands-details-from-judge-on-troubling-allegations-he-mentored-e-jean-carrols-attorney/

According to the article, they worked in the same firm during 2 years in the early 90's, so around 30 years ago.

[rattlesnake]

3 hours ago, pomchop said:

That is not what trumpers seem to think...except for the extra deranged magas who seem to think obama is still the president....i guess you must be referring to yet another conspiracy theory that some moron on the deep web has come up with that biden is really not biden but is obama wearing a biden mask or something along those lines....or maybe it's michelle as after all she is a man and Barack is probably back in kenya hanging out where he was born trying to figure out how to overthrow the us or how to get trump to send him a happy birthday card.

 

I can't compete with that level of analysis, it's white flag waving time for me.

 

[Amethyst]

A series of off-topic posts having nothing to do with the subject topic of the Trump-Carroll civil cases have been removed.

 

[Dave0206]

On 1/29/2024 at 12:42 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

83 million to Trump is like $800 to most of the broke dems on this forum... 555555

Well if we are doing comparisons it's only right no point charging him 800 dollars no problem for him he will start a go fund me campaign he is so good at it.

Just to be clear if I'm accused of rape I'm going on the stand first opportunity I get to clear myself not crying my lawyer didn't tick the box.

My lawyer told me not to 

 

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Dave0206 said:

Well if we are doing comparisons it's only right no point charging him 800 dollars no problem for him he will start a go fund me campaign he is so good at it.

Just to be clear if I'm accused of rape I'm going on the stand first opportunity I get to clear myself not crying my lawyer didn't tick the box.

My lawyer told me not to 

 

The civil case could not prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt! A criminal 

case has to prove that not a civil procedure , No rape!

“The jurors weren't required to explain why, under the definitions they were given, they concluded Trump sexually abused Carroll but were less convinced he raped her”.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/01/29/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll/72295009007/#

 

Its lacks the when & time and there was no witnesses ! 
Guilty by dem lawfare. 

imop
 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

The civil case could not prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt!

 

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

 

"Trump’s team had requested a new trial in the case, arguing that the $5 million in damages he was ordered to pay Carroll was excessive, because he was only charged with sexual abuse. The jury had not found that Trump “raped” Carroll, a talking point Trump’s team often parroted.
 

But Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word."

 

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/174448/judge-e-jean-carroll-case-yes-donald-trump-rapist

 

Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal

Ex-president claimed that writer defamed him when saying he raped her, but judge said term is commonly ‘used and understood’ in context

 

"Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll

 

[Danderman123]

"Trump only sexually assaulted her, he didn't rape her" is not going to sound great on the campaign trail.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

"Trump only sexually assaulted her, he didn't rape her" is not going to sound great on the campaign trail.

 

Speaking of E Jean Carroll and campaign trails...

 

I know somebody who won't be.

[Danderman123]

So... an alleged rape in 1996 is ancient history that should be forgotten, but 2 lawyers working in a huge law firm in 1993 is relevant to the trial today.

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

 

"Trump’s team had requested a new trial in the case, arguing that the $5 million in damages he was ordered to pay Carroll was excessive, because he was only charged with sexual abuse. The jury had not found that Trump “raped” Carroll, a talking point Trump’s team often parroted.
 

But Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word."

 

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/174448/judge-e-jean-carroll-case-yes-donald-trump-rapist

 

Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal

Ex-president claimed that writer defamed him when saying he raped her, but judge said term is commonly ‘used and understood’ in context

 

"Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll

 

Cut & paste anti Trump far left news sources 

with no personal input. Use to be a time the rules required commentary besides the news source .

 

No rape, no criminal trial, no witnesses, no evidence to a rape , no

time, no date,

Just a civil trial that made up a new law designed for Trump with the help of Hoffman a dem donor!

https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-survivors/

 

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Cut & paste anti Trump far left news sources 

with no personal input. Use to be a time the rules required commentary besides the news source .

 

No rape, no criminal trial, no witnesses, no evidence to a rape , no

time, no date,

Just a civil trial that made up a new law designed for Trump with the help of Hoffman a dem donor!

https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-survivors/

 

You need to see witnesses for someone to be convicted of rape?

 

In this case, Ms. Carroll confided to friends about the rape, back in the day. Yes, I know, you are going to say that she planned for Trump to win the presidency, so she could sue him.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Cut & paste anti Trump far left news sources 

with no personal input. Use to be a time the rules required commentary besides the news source .

 

No rape, no criminal trial, no witnesses, no evidence to a rape , no

time, no date,

Just a civil trial that made up a new law designed for Trump with the help of Hoffman a dem donor!

https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-survivors/

 

 

In many cases there simply isn't a need to make a comment as the quote speaks for itself. Most often the quote encapsulates what I'm thinking better than I can. The other time when a comment is not needed is a self explanatory rebuttal to a claim of fact.

[riclag]

“Jurors in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit against Donald Trump found him liable of sexual abuse — and not rape — likely because they expected “Law & Order”-style forensic evidence to prove the more serious claim, legal experts told The Post on Wednesday”

https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/experts-explain-jurors-mixed-verdict-in-e-jean-carroll-case/

Not guilty of rape! More dem lawfare and conflicts of interests!

imop

All under appeal , see you in court again.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

11 minutes ago, riclag said:

Just a civil trial that made up a new law designed for Trump with the help of Hoffman a dem donor!

https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-survivors/

 

 

Contrary to your claim above, I don't see anything in your cited report saying Carroll or her attorneys or her civil case had anything to do with the passage of the law.

 

Hoffman isn't even mentioned by name in the article.

 

Though it's clear that passage of the law was helpful to Carroll's ability to file a new civil case.

 

"Within hours of the law going into effect in late November, Carroll filed a battery and defamation civil suit against Trump. (She filed a separate defamation suit in 2019 that has been postponed.)"

 

[rattlesnake]

11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

So... an alleged rape in 1996 is ancient history that should be forgotten, but 2 lawyers working in a huge law firm in 1993 is relevant to the trial today.

 

Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan and Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan worked together in the early 1990s. A source indicated that the judge was once Roberta Kaplan’s mentor.

 

This is called a conflict of interest and constitutes grounds for a reversal in an appeals court.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan and Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan worked together in the early 1990s. A source indicated that the judge was once Roberta Kaplan’s mentor.

 

This is called a conflict of interest and constitutes grounds for a reversal in an appeals court.

 

what source?

[rattlesnake]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

what source?

 

Trump's lawyer did not disclose it.

 

In her motion, Habba cited a recent New York Post article which quoted an unnamed source suggesting Roberta Kaplan had considered Judge Kaplan her "mentor" at the law firm.

https://www.newsweek.com/alina-habba-conflict-judge-kaplan-e-jean-carroll-lawyer-1865169

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

“Jurors in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit against Donald Trump found him liable of sexual abuse — and not rape — likely because they expected “Law & Order”-style forensic evidence to prove the more serious claim, legal experts told The Post on Wednesday”

https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/experts-explain-jurors-mixed-verdict-in-e-jean-carroll-case/

Not guilty of rape! More dem lawfare and conflicts of interests!

imop

 

That reporting was at the time of the civil verdict in May 2023.

 

And then the judge in the case later, in August 2023, ruling on a motion by Trump's attorneys, added the following legal context:

 

"Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll