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Topic Update: Community leaders welcome UK decision to freeze funding to UNRWA

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In a significant development, several countries, including the UK, US, and Australia, have decided to freeze funding for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) following allegations that some of its employees were involved in the October 7 attacks by Hamas. Israel claims that evidence has been provided, leading to a pause in financial support for the Palestinian refugee aid agency.

 

The UK's Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office stated that it is appalled by the accusations of UNRWA staff involvement in the October 7 terrorist attack against Israel. The UK government has decided to temporarily halt future funding to UNRWA while thoroughly reviewing these serious allegations. The decision has been echoed by the US, Canada, Australia, Italy, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, and Scotland.

 

The Board of Deputies welcomed the move, commending the governments for their decision to suspend funding to UNRWA in light of revelations about the involvement of its staff members in the October 7 attacks. There have long been concerns about the activities of UNRWA employees, including alleged antisemitic incitement and support for terrorism.

 

The United Nations has initiated an investigation into the 12 UNRWA staff members accused by Israel of participating in the October 7 massacre. UNRWA Chief Philippe Lazzarini called the funding cuts "irresponsible," emphasizing that it puts two million Gazans at risk. However, the countries pausing their contributions insist on a transparent and independent investigation into the allegations.

 

While the suspension of funds is in response to allegations against a small group of staff, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres urged the countries to ensure the continuity of UNRWA's operations. This plea faced criticism from Israel's UN ambassador, Gilad Erdan, who accused Guterres of prioritizing the agency over the security of Israeli citizens.

 

Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz called for the dismissal of UNRWA Chief Philippe Lazzarini and vowed to prevent the agency from having any role in post-war Gaza. Katz asserted that UNRWA has been involved in incitement and terrorism, and a comprehensive investigation is essential before resuming support.

 

The controversy surrounding UNRWA has reignited the debate over the agency's role and its impact on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The freeze in funding reflects the growing scrutiny and demands for accountability in the handling of humanitarian aid in the region.

 

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14 hours ago, placeholder said:

And that would be you being misleading by not noting that Israel gave Qatar permission to distribute the money and actually sent agents to accompany and provide protection to Mohammed Al-Emadi, the Qatari bagman. It was they who would drive him across the border. It's also instructive to note that when some Republicans wanted to go after Qatar for supporting Hamas, the Israeli govt. intervened on Qatar's behalf.

 

That would be you with the usual nonsense. The details were discussed on numerous posts and topics by now. Everyone knows the score, I was addressing the poster's blatant misleading comment, not rehashing all the details. It's not as if he doesn't know them.

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14 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

 

The only reason we are talking about this, is to avoid talking about Israel & the ICJ hearing they lost. This is revenge for losing the ICJ case, pure and simple. Easy way to get Israel out of the headlines, and put the pressure on UNRWA. Gives them a nice easy way to say they are all terrorists, and can bomb all their facilities and kill even more UN staff. Over 100 have died already, more than in any other conflict on this planet. Propaganda 101.

 

This is the largest employer in Gaza. 12 employees have been accused. Twelve! Out of 13,000 that work in Gaza - 0.009%. That's like shutting down the NHS because 12 doctors were caught sexually abusing their patients. To make matters worse, this is the only agency that gives aid to the people, right when they need it the most. Over 80% of the worlds hungriest people are in Gaza. They need aid, medical supplies, water, food, medicine, shelter... because Israel has destroyed everything they have!

 

The double standards here are incredible. UNRWA has their funding completely cut off from 9 countries because of 0.009% of workers who have not been proven to be involved, only accused. 

 

Israel is accused of war crimes, apartheid, genocide and has broken international law over decades. They have literally lost a case in the ICJ and were found to be plausibly committing genocidal acts. They have videos from CNN & iTV where we can literally watch their war crimes, shooting unarmed men holding white flags. The entire legal world, and all countries agree that they are occupying territory in the west bank, and this breaks international law. Israel ignores it. No funding is cut, weapons and hundreds of millions are being sent to them. Is it not easy to see why people look at this situation and get so angry with their respective governments and bias? The western world lets Israel get away with literal murder and theft, no accountability at all. In fact, they are given more and more to keep on going. Enough is enough.

 

 

@Brickleberry

 

No. You're just trying to deflect, obfuscate and hijack a topic that not in line with your adopted narrative. You do not provide any support for your 'revenge' nonsense claim. You just state it as fact and plow on. That's how you roll.

 

You cannot address the fact that it is not Israel - but donor countries, who are executing this de-funding thing. For some reason, they are not much into your 'reasoning', and do not consider the matter 'closed', the investigation satisfactory, or the rest of the rubbish you push. Take it up with them, or try to come up with some way to address and explain that. I doubt you can.

 

As for the rest of your rant, life isn't fair. Grow up.

 

 

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"Government spokesperson Mark Regev said there was a structural relationship between UNRWA and Hamas and not just a matter of a few bad apples.  the names provided were just the "tip of the iceberg," he said."

 

Israel says UNRWA staff implicate themselves, more complicit in crimes
Government spokesperson says there is a structural relationship between UNRWA and Hamas and not just a few bad apples; says Hamas videos show members of UN organization in atrocities, others, captured, tell interrogators they work for UN

Israel believes there are more UNRWA staff collaborating with Hamas, after the UN conceded that 12 members of the organization had participated in the October 7 massacre. Officials also said that UNRWA sites were used as terror instillations in the war. Military intelligence was looking for further indications that incriminate more members of the UN refugee organization of taking part in the atrocities. 

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b100f3oq9t

 

 

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France and Japan now join UNRWA fund freeze. The list of countries increasing daily.

 

Japan’s Foreign Ministry said the country had decided to suspend additional funding to the agency for now, was “extremely concerned about the alleged involvement of UNRWA staff members in the terror attack on Israel,” and has been “strongly urging UNRWA to conduct the investigation in a prompt and complete manner.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/france-joins-unrwa-fund-freeze-as-jordan-warns-against-collective-punishment/

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3 hours ago, Morch said:

 

That would be you with the usual nonsense. The details were discussed on numerous posts and topics by now. Everyone knows the score, I was addressing the poster's blatant misleading comment, not rehashing all the details. It's not as if he doesn't know them.

Actually, it would be you with your usual downplaying of Israel's grave responsibility for helping to foster Hamas.

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4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, it would be you with your usual downplaying of Israel's grave responsibility for helping to foster Hamas.

 

I did not 'downplay' anything. I have addressed that issue on multiple topics by now. There is no need to rehash everything whenever an obviously untrue comment is made.

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Topic Updates: Around 10% of UNRWA aid agency’s 12,000 staff in Gaza have links to militants, according to intelligence dossier

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Two helped kidnap Israelis. Two others were tracked to sites where scores of Israeli civilians were shot and killed. Others coordinated logistics for the assault, including procuring weapons.

 

Another Unrwa employee, described in the dossier as an Unrwa social worker, played a role in absconding with the body of a dead Israeli soldier, which was taken to Gaza, the reports said. He also coordinated trucks and munitions distributions for Hamas before being killed.

 

A person familiar with the dossier said that after U.S. officials were briefed on the intelligence material, they alerted Unrwa, which put out a statement announcing the allegation that some of its employees were linked to the attacks and saying it had fired the employees involved. It provided no details, and didn’t say how many employees were involved.

 

“The institution as a whole is a haven for Hamas’ radical ideology.”

 

https://archive.ph/nZt24

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/at-least-12-u-n-agency-employees-involved-in-oct-7-attacks-intelligence-reports-say-a7de8f36

 

Details Emerge on U.N. Workers Accused of Aiding Hamas Raid

One is accused of kidnapping a woman. Another is said to have handed out ammunition. A third was described as taking part in the massacre at a kibbutz where 97 people died. And all were said to be employees of the United Nations aid agency that schools, shelters and feeds hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

The most detailed accusations in the dossier concerned a school counselor from Khan Younis, in southern Gaza, who is accused of working with his son to abduct a woman from Israel.
A social worker from Nuseirat, in central Gaza, is accused of helping to bring the body of a dead Israeli soldier to Gaza, as well as distributing ammunition and coordinating vehicles on the day of the attack.

 

https://archive.ph/qlLFI

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/28/world/middleeast/gaza-unrwa-hamas-israel.html

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More smears against an organization that Israel wants to be dismantled. Bear in mind that this country, Israel, has repeatedly wanted UNRWA disbanded. It literally calls for them to be destroyed in the Knesset. Bear in mind that we are receiving 'intelligence dossiers' that in previous instances have been proven to be completely made up from Israel. Bear in mind that we are talking about a country that has been found to be plausibly committing genocide by the international court of justice. Bear in mind we are talking about a country that frequently uses the holocaust to sway public opinion, including wearing yellow stars of David to the UN. They have repeatedly tried to discredit these organizations over decades.

 

This story has a misleading headline, if you read further into the article, it claims the following:

 

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around 10% of all of its Gaza staff have ties to Islamist militant groups, according to intelligence reports reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

 

These 'ties' talk about family members being part of these militant groups. Not being involved themselves, but having family members who are. For those who might not be aware, Gazans have very large families. It is entirely possible and plausible that 10% do have family members who are members these groups. Palestinians are entitled to be members of these groups anyway, they are legally allowed to resist their occupiers.

 

We have not talked about Israeli ministers attending a huge rally 2 days ago calling for the re-colonization of the Gaza strip. Not a single article on AN. Why is this?

 

There is no evidence from a credible third party, and the intelligence Israel has gained has been through torture (they say 'interrogation') of Palestinians. We didn't listen to Russia when it put out propaganda about Ukraine being full of Nazi's - we understood that this was propaganda.

 

However, when Israel puts out its propaganda against an organization that helps refugees who were expelled from their homes during Israel's founding (UNRWA was founded to help these people in 1949, and is still doing this work) we automatically believe them. They fired the workers involved and set up an independent investigation. What is the purpose of this move? Does it not make those countries complicit in the genocidal acts they have been accused from? These countries are calling for aid to enter Gaza, but at the same time they are de funding the only organization with the ability to do this!

 

Double standards. No fair trial, no parity, no proportionality. The Roman Catholic church has been caught abusing hundreds of thousands of children, but people don't stop funding it. The NHS has had several doctors and nurses who have killed or abused patients. We don't stop funding them. American police gun down blacks at an alarming rate. We haven't de funded the police - despite calls for it.

 

Israel has been accused of war crimes. It is currently a state that has been found to be plausibly committing genocide. Why should the world continue to listen to this colonial settler state who ignores all UN resolutions and international law? They have NO standing left at all, and they should be brought to heel.

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3 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

More smears against an organization that Israel wants to be dismantled. Bear in mind that this country, Israel, has repeatedly wanted UNRWA disbanded. It literally calls for them to be destroyed in the Knesset. Bear in mind that we are receiving 'intelligence dossiers' that in previous instances have been proven to be completely made up from Israel. Bear in mind that we are talking about a country that has been found to be plausibly committing genocide by the international court of justice. Bear in mind we are talking about a country that frequently uses the holocaust to sway public opinion, including wearing yellow stars of David to the UN. They have repeatedly tried to discredit these organizations over decades.

 

This story has a misleading headline, if you read further into the article, it claims the following:

 

 

These 'ties' talk about family members being part of these militant groups. Not being involved themselves, but having family members who are. For those who might not be aware, Gazans have very large families. It is entirely possible and plausible that 10% do have family members who are members these groups. Palestinians are entitled to be members of these groups anyway, they are legally allowed to resist their occupiers.

 

We have not talked about Israeli ministers attending a huge rally 2 days ago calling for the re-colonization of the Gaza strip. Not a single article on AN. Why is this?

 

There is no evidence from a credible third party, and the intelligence Israel has gained has been through torture (they say 'interrogation') of Palestinians. We didn't listen to Russia when it put out propaganda about Ukraine being full of Nazi's - we understood that this was propaganda.

 

However, when Israel puts out its propaganda against an organization that helps refugees who were expelled from their homes during Israel's founding (UNRWA was founded to help these people in 1949, and is still doing this work) we automatically believe them. They fired the workers involved and set up an independent investigation. What is the purpose of this move? Does it not make those countries complicit in the genocidal acts they have been accused from? These countries are calling for aid to enter Gaza, but at the same time they are de funding the only organization with the ability to do this!

 

Double standards. No fair trial, no parity, no proportionality. The Roman Catholic church has been caught abusing hundreds of thousands of children, but people don't stop funding it. The NHS has had several doctors and nurses who have killed or abused patients. We don't stop funding them. American police gun down blacks at an alarming rate. We haven't de funded the police - despite calls for it.

 

Israel has been accused of war crimes. It is currently a state that has been found to be plausibly committing genocide. Why should the world continue to listen to this colonial settler state who ignores all UN resolutions and international law? They have NO standing left at all, and they should be brought to heel.

Triggered..................lol

 

The UNRWA problem here isn’t just funding an org in which some workers are terrorists, disconnected from the org’s activity. The issue is widespread systematic integration of terrorist activity into an international governmental organization that is funded by states.

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The organization is one of the main reasons for the prolonged conflict - teaching children to hate Israel and then failing to condemn it when they take up arms against it. the events of that horrible day were just a physical example to the years of incitement to hatred and awful approach the organization has to this conflict.

 

 

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On 1/28/2024 at 2:44 PM, bokningar said:

When it comes to building tunnels for war and buying rockets there is plenty of money. Food for people not so much.

Stupid comment with no bearing on reality. There is food but the israelis won't let enough into Gaza.

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8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Stupid comment with no bearing on reality. There is food but the israelis won't let enough into Gaza.

 

Absolutely spot on. Israelis are actually blocking the trucks from entering into Gaza, just days after the ICJ ruled that this 'plausibly genocidal government' must allow more aid to enter.  https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-01-28-24/h_9e104d9e69e048c2d8a22eb13b0771ce

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Israeli protesters again block aid trucks from entering Gaza at border crossing

 

This is all about Israel wanting to destroy the UNRWA to take away the special refugee status that they have. As one Knesset member said on the 4th January 2023 "We know how to destroy terrorists, but destroying an idea is harder. We must take the chance to destroy UNRWA while we can."

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On 1/29/2024 at 11:36 AM, Social Media said:

In a significant development, several countries, including the UK, US, and Australia, have decided to freeze funding for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) following allegations that some of its employees were involved in the October 7 attacks by Hamas. Israel claims that evidence has been provided, leading to a pause in financial support for the Palestinian refugee aid agency.

IMO a vile disgusting reaction to unproven allegations by the israelis that 11 or 12 employees of UNRWA were involved on October 7.

UNRWA apparently employs 30,000 people but the israeli sycophants seized on these unproven allegations to cut funding to people being murdered in their thousands. Shame on them all, and I hope they are prosecuted for collusion in genocide.

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Stupid comment with no bearing on reality. There is food but the israelis won't let enough into Gaza.

I wish you shared the same enthusiasm for the release of the Israeli hostages, and is a country that is at war with their enemy responsible for supplying food to their enemy, that is not how war works. 🥴

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1 hour ago, Brickleberry said:

More smears against an organization that Israel wants to be dismantled. Bear in mind that this country, Israel, has repeatedly wanted UNRWA disbanded. It literally calls for them to be destroyed in the Knesset. Bear in mind that we are receiving 'intelligence dossiers' that in previous instances have been proven to be completely made up from Israel. Bear in mind that we are talking about a country that has been found to be plausibly committing genocide by the international court of justice. Bear in mind we are talking about a country that frequently uses the holocaust to sway public opinion, including wearing yellow stars of David to the UN. They have repeatedly tried to discredit these organizations over decades.

 

This story has a misleading headline, if you read further into the article, it claims the following:

 

 

These 'ties' talk about family members being part of these militant groups. Not being involved themselves, but having family members who are. For those who might not be aware, Gazans have very large families. It is entirely possible and plausible that 10% do have family members who are members these groups. Palestinians are entitled to be members of these groups anyway, they are legally allowed to resist their occupiers.

 

We have not talked about Israeli ministers attending a huge rally 2 days ago calling for the re-colonization of the Gaza strip. Not a single article on AN. Why is this?

 

There is no evidence from a credible third party, and the intelligence Israel has gained has been through torture (they say 'interrogation') of Palestinians. We didn't listen to Russia when it put out propaganda about Ukraine being full of Nazi's - we understood that this was propaganda.

 

However, when Israel puts out its propaganda against an organization that helps refugees who were expelled from their homes during Israel's founding (UNRWA was founded to help these people in 1949, and is still doing this work) we automatically believe them. They fired the workers involved and set up an independent investigation. What is the purpose of this move? Does it not make those countries complicit in the genocidal acts they have been accused from? These countries are calling for aid to enter Gaza, but at the same time they are de funding the only organization with the ability to do this!

 

Double standards. No fair trial, no parity, no proportionality. The Roman Catholic church has been caught abusing hundreds of thousands of children, but people don't stop funding it. The NHS has had several doctors and nurses who have killed or abused patients. We don't stop funding them. American police gun down blacks at an alarming rate. We haven't de funded the police - despite calls for it.

 

Israel has been accused of war crimes. It is currently a state that has been found to be plausibly committing genocide. Why should the world continue to listen to this colonial settler state who ignores all UN resolutions and international law? They have NO standing left at all, and they should be brought to heel.

 

@Brickleberry

 

A lot of bears running around in someone's mind.

 

So, to get back to reality - Neither you, nor 'we' received any intelligence dossier. Governments have. As to the full evidence therein - you do not know much beyond what was publicly published at this time. Now, considering that a bit earlier you were going on about 9 out of 13,000, and claiming that was it, maybe some reflection is due as to this being (as expected) a hasty statement.

 

All of the rant above is meaningless, and carries very little weight. Governments received information, and acted upon it. Not one, not two, nor even three. And the list grows daily. You think you know better, without any information? You think these governments aren't aware of what's going on in the Gaza Strip? That they are unaware of the ICJ's ruling? And still, they have decided to act as they did.

 

Why is that? Because Israel wants them to? Israel tells them what decisions to make? They can't make up their minds on their own? Or maybe, just maybe, they see the evidence presented as credible enough, at least to temporarily de-fund UNRWA and withhold donations. Because mind, again, that there is no obligation or requirement involved - these are donations. Nowhere was it said that the de-funding is permanent, or that UNRWA will be dismantled. At this step is about cleaning it's act - something UNRWA failed to do for a long while now.

 

All you ramblings about Israel are irrelevant. This is not about Israel. This is about UNRWA.

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12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Stupid comment with no bearing on reality. There is food but the israelis won't let enough into Gaza.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Oh dear.

All this money invested in tunnels and rockets could have secured Gaza's economic situation, provide for stocks of supplies and so on.

Never mind the point that if it wasn't for Hamas there would have been no blockade, no destruction and no deaths.

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1 hour ago, Brickleberry said:

However, when Israel puts out its propaganda against an organization that helps refugees who were expelled from their homes during Israel's founding (UNRWA was founded to help these people in 1949, and is still doing this work) we automatically believe them.

That's because israelis are special, and can't be judged in the same way as Russia for the same crimes, because they claim ALL Palestinians are Hamas fighters, even the 10 year old children and babies they kill with their bombing.

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6 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Absolutely spot on. Israelis are actually blocking the trucks from entering into Gaza, just days after the ICJ ruled that this 'plausibly genocidal government' must allow more aid to enter.  https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-01-28-24/h_9e104d9e69e048c2d8a22eb13b0771ce

 

This is all about Israel wanting to destroy the UNRWA to take away the special refugee status that they have. As one Knesset member said on the 4th January 2023 "We know how to destroy terrorists, but destroying an idea is harder. We must take the chance to destroy UNRWA while we can."

 

@Brickleberry

 

Even from your link, it is obvious that it is not 'the Israelis' as a whole. You just make these sort of blanket statements because, well, that's what you do. 

 

This is about Israel presenting evidence regarding UNRWA workers ties to Hamas, and donor countries accepting the evidence.

 

You cannot address that, so you go on about anything but.

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10 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Absolutely spot on. Israelis are actually blocking the trucks from entering into Gaza, just days after the ICJ ruled that this 'plausibly genocidal government' must allow more aid to enter.  https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-01-28-24/h_9e104d9e69e048c2d8a22eb13b0771ce

 

This is all about Israel wanting to destroy the UNRWA to take away the special refugee status that they have. As one Knesset member said on the 4th January 2023 "We know how to destroy terrorists, but destroying an idea is harder. We must take the chance to destroy UNRWA while we can."

I didn't think I'd ever see such an evil person in my lifetime. I was wrong.

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8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO a vile disgusting reaction to unproven allegations by the israelis that 11 or 12 employees of UNRWA were involved on October 7.

UNRWA apparently employs 30,000 people but the israeli sycophants seized on these unproven allegations to cut funding to people being murdered in their thousands. Shame on them all, and I hope they are prosecuted for collusion in genocide.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Unproven how? UNRWA itself accepted the allegations and admitted them. These further allegations were embraced by several Western governments representing donor countries (including yours). Somehow, you think you know better. On what basis?

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's because israelis are special, and can't be judged in the same way as Russia for the same crimes, because they claim ALL Palestinians are Hamas fighters, even the 10 year old children and babies they kill with their bombing.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Two more steps forward and you'll be called something you're sure to whine about.

 

Being a Putin and Hamas fan is not a license to twist facts, mind.

 

There was no such official claim by Israel, you're making things up. As usual.

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2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

You are lying, who has claimed "ALL" Palestians are Hamas fighters?

 

Why don't you refer to the body of evidence submitted to the ICJ, who ruled that they were plausibly committing genocide.

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2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I didn't think I'd ever see such an evil person in my lifetime. I was wrong.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Come now....you're a Putin fan. And surely there are some among the Hamas leadership you seem to play cheerleader for who may qualify.

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Just now, Brickleberry said:

 

Why don't you refer to the body of evidence submitted to the ICJ, who ruled that they were plausibly committing genocide.

 

@Brickleberry

 

Why don't you refer to what the topic is about - UNRWA, rather than constantly deflect and try to hijack the topic with ICJ comments?

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Just now, Brickleberry said:

 

Why don't you refer to the body of evidence submitted to the ICJ, who ruled that they were plausibly committing genocide.

Why doesn't the Hamas barbarians release the hostages, why did Palestine start this war in the first place and why won't man up and take responsibility for this war these sadistic hoards have caused. 

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7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Why doesn't the Hamas barbarians release the hostages, why did Palestine start this war in the first place and why won't man up and take responsibility for this war these sadistic hoards have caused. 

 

'Palestine' did not start this conflict. Hamas did.

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