stoner Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, heybruce said: Is that the only information choice available to you? The US government does not control the news outlets that report in the US, and both Tucker and Putin were primarily targeting a US audience. you said western media was not under government control. i proceeded to provide a legit example. who said anything about other choices not available ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john donson Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, candide said: A quote from Boris (one of the few occasions I agree with him). "You can’t negotiate with a bear while it’s eating your leg" The rest of your post is State-controlled Russian propaganda. you read or listen only to government or big pharma sponsored media ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NextG Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 7 hours ago, john donson said: UK boris broke a possible peace deal 2 years ago if you know ukraine is very corrupt, thai level and they kept killing people since 2014 and those russians living at the border asked to be protected from... Ukraine genocide... the west propaganda farce were shatting their pants and threaten tucker with a EU ban ? A post from the mentally ill it seems. Do you imagine that it was just a few separatists holding back the Ukrainians the whole time? There are none so blind as those who would not see… 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NextG Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, john donson said: you read or listen only to government or big pharma sponsored media ? Oooo… you are so independent in your thought process 🤭 Why is it that you all trumpet out exactly the same phrases and have no depth of knowledge on any subject other than what you were told? Where is your independent research? You haven’t done any. For you, independent research is likely browsing through Rumble. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post john donson Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, uttradit said: Real journalism https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/are-ukraines-vast-natural-resources-a-real-reason-behind-russias-invasion-323894-2022-02-25 one, how many of you watched the 2 hours interview two, how many people know what has been going on since 2014 in the east of ukraine and the ethnic russians being genocided, a bit like israel and gaza... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 32 minutes ago, john donson said: you read or listen only to government or big pharma sponsored media ? Which are these media? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NextG Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) 12 minutes ago, john donson said: one, how many of you watched the 2 hours interview two, how many people know what has been going on since 2014 in the east of ukraine and the ethnic russians being genocided, a bit like israel and gaza... You certainly don’t know. You are just repeating the propaganda given to you. The war has been ongoing. The picture you are unwittingly attempting to communicate is of helpless people being attacked by Ukrainian’ Nazis. THAT is propaganda. The reality is that Russian special forces and private armies have been there the whole time. The propaganda is that it was just a one-sided affair. Why not actually check to see what f what I write has any basis in the truth? As opposed to convincing yourself that the propaganda that you have been fed is the full picture. It isn’t. It’s been a war. The change came because the Separatists weren’t winning, even with the help they were getting from the Kremlin. Both the White House and the Kremlin had an interest in getting their people in power there. Again, your one sided narrative confirms that you haven’t done ANY independent research. Edited February 10 by NextG 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lister Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 A nonsense post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, john donson said: one, how many of you watched the 2 hours interview two, how many people know what has been going on since 2014 in the east of ukraine and the ethnic russians being genocided, a bit like israel and gaza... The Russians in the east of Ukraine are not ethnic. They were parachuted there on Stalin's orders, after he killed approximately 6 million Ukrainians in 1932-33 in the Holodomor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, john donson said: one, how many of you watched the 2 hours interview two, how many people know what has been going on since 2014 in the east of ukraine and the ethnic russians being genocided, a bit like israel and gaza... One, and only one: What is your source for your genocide claim? I know you won't provide one, I just want to make sure others understand that as well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr336 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 18 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Carlson did Putin a solid offered him a platform to spout propaganda and Putin made the best of it. Absolutely no surprise whatsoever. Turn the volume and watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 11 hours ago, heybruce said: Western media are not under government control, unlike Russian media. Do you have a credible alternative to Western media? USA media not under the control of the Whit house.... Lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 hours ago, Cory1848 said: What you and other Putin trolls don’t seem to accept is that the hundred million plus people who actually live in the swath of territory between the Baltic and the Balkans have their own agency. They had all, at some point in history, been oppressed by Russian imperialism, and given a brief window of Russian dormancy in the 1990s, they clamored to join Western institutions, primarily the EU and NATO, as they saw that their best future was there. Did the US and western Europe encourage them? Sure, if they qualified for membership, and for some it took longer than others, but it was entirely at the initiative of the applicant countries, who sought security against future Russian revanchism (and rightly so, as it turns out). Try reading some history, and some actual news reportage out of Ukraine and elsewhere in eastern Europe. Clearly your sources of information are leading you down the wrong rabbit hole. Go back and check history regarding who owned what lands... learn something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 9 hours ago, mikebike said: No it has not. You are conflating the Soviet Union with Russia. You DO realize they are VERY different political entities, right? The USSR and modern day Russia have both been under western oppression. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Tucker Carlson. Useful idiot for Putin AND Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, hotchilli said: USA media not under the control of the Whit house.... Lol That's right. Not. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: That's right. Not. About as misguided as Uncle Joe 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, hotchilli said: About as misguided as Uncle Joe Obviously another Putin fan boy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Obviously another Putin fan boy. Not a fan of Putin per-say... not a fan of Americas/Western lies and deceits either. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory1848 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: Go back and check history regarding who owned what lands... learn something. Excuse me? Who “owned what lands”? That’s past tense -- who cares who “owned” those lands. What matters is, what do the people who live there NOW want for themselves? I read a great deal of history; you clearly read nothing but propaganda. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted February 11 Popular Post Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: Not a fan of Putin per-say... not a fan of Americas/Western lies and deceits either. You live in a country where you have the ability to say such things freely. In Putin's country, you'd be tossed in jail. See the difference? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NextG Posted February 11 Popular Post Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: Not a fan of Putin per-say... not a fan of Americas/Western lies and deceits either. So no lies and ‘deceits’ from the Russian side or do you just turn a blind eye to those.? It’s ‘per se’. Get an education before you start arguing about things you obviously do not understand. It’s truly embarrassing to witness the Trump fans who can barely string a sentence together. Yet they jump on here with the suggestion that they have the real knowledge. They are little more than sheep, eating up the propaganda they are fed and then ejecting it out of their rear ends. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NextG said: So no lies and ‘deceits’ from the Russian side or do you just turn a blind eye to those.? It’s ‘per se’. Get an education before you start arguing about things you obviously do not understand. It’s truly embarrassing to witness the Trump fans who can barely string a sentence together. Yet they jump on here with the suggestion that they have the real knowledge. They are little more than sheep, eating up the propaganda they are fed and then ejecting it out of their rear ends. You need help... there is a cure for TDS Edited February 11 by Skipalongcassidy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory1848 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, Skipalongcassidy said: You need help... there is a cure for TDL What's TDL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, NextG said: It’s truly embarrassing to witness the Trump fans who can barely string a sentence together. Go live with Uncle Joe, he can't find his way off a stage or remember which world leaders belong to which countries. CIA run USA not the White house. Go check what the CIA did in Ukraine to desstablise it before the war with Russia started.. you need the education. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, Cory1848 said: What's TDL? It was a typo... you are quick... I edited it immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NextG Posted February 11 Popular Post Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, hotchilli said: Go live with Uncle Joe, he can't find his way off a stage or remember which world leaders belong to which countries. CIA run USA not the White house. Go check what the CIA did in Ukraine to desstablise it before the war with Russia started.. you need the education. Have you researched what Russia was doing at the same time? I bet that you haven’t 😊 Live with Uncle Joe? Seems he’s living with you… rent free, inside your head. It’s a sickness. Get rid of it and try to find normal. I don’t have a dog in the fight, so I can look at all sides impartially. You cannot. You cannot see the forest but for all the trees in the way. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 12 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: It was a typo... you are quick... I edited it immediately Hoisted by your own petard 😌 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 14 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Go live with Uncle Joe, he can't find his way off a stage or remember which world leaders belong to which countries. CIA run USA not the White house. Go check what the CIA did in Ukraine to desstablise it before the war with Russia started.. you need the education. Whilst you are here… could you please tell me when the war with Russia started, so I can focus on the timeframe to which you refer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 13 hours ago, mikebike said: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/how-many-countries-has-the-us-invaded So you can't answer my question.............😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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