9 hours ago, hotchilli said:

The USSR and modern day Russia have both been under western oppression.

That's hilarious.

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Go live with Uncle Joe, he can't find his way off a stage or remember which world leaders belong to which countries.

CIA run USA not the White house.

Go check what the CIA did in Ukraine to desstablise it before the war with Russia started.. you need the education.

Many Putin fan boys claim the US is responsible for the Maiden revolution, and none of them give sources showing it to be true.

3 hours ago, uttradit said:

US society is soft and weak. Russia isn't.

Prove it.

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Go watch some Bobby Kennedy interviews.. he spells out the time frames for all the CIA dirty work in Ukraine.

Including USA funding to overthrow the government and replace it with another USA ally.

Then go check out the MINSK treaty... 

The surest sign that a poster can't back up his claims is when he tells others to do the research instead.

2 hours ago, uttradit said:

So why didn't the "good" journalists get the interview?

Because Putin refuses to do interviews with good journalists.

 

"Countless reporters from Western countries, including the BBC's Russia Editor Steve Rosenberg, have sent the Kremlin repeated interview requests. All of the BBC's requests have been ignored."

"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov acknowledged this, telling the BBC: "Mr Carlson is not correct, and he couldn't have known that. We receive a lot of requests for interviews with the president.""  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68247956

If you didn't know this, you can't pretend to be informed.  Just like Tucker.

 

10 minutes ago, uttradit said:

CNN are lightweights with low ratings. 

And your news sources are...?

12 minutes ago, uttradit said:

It didn't stop you. Daft and unrelated.

Very much related to your nonsense post.

11 minutes ago, uttradit said:

CNN are lightweights with low ratings. 

A drover's dog could have interviewed Putin, and rated its socks off. Because it's probably the only interview Putin will give, unless he wants a repeat with the soft d!ck Carlson is.

29 minutes ago, uttradit said:

It didn't stop you. Daft and unrelated.

Please show me where I am not stating facts. Then show me where you are not stating opinions.

19 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please show me where I am not stating facts. Then show me where you are not stating opinions.

You sound bitter. Sorry for talking to you.

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it is sad that so many people, including many journalists and politicians, are against such an interview. Why?

Don't you want to hear Putin's point of view?

Some people say he lies. Of course he does, just like politicians all over the word.

And it seems sometimes he tells the truth, the part which western media and western politicians don't want to hear.

People's opinions is all. Part of freedom. No one stopping it happening or stopping people watch it. Not sad. Sad is when a leader controls his people with no option but him as leader or freedom to speak their mind including a stymied press. That's sad.  

5 hours ago, retarius said:

A great job by Tucker and Mr Putin. I do hope that viewers were comforted by Putin's grasp of history, by his calm demeanour, and that they believed his lack of desire to invade the whole of Europe. The event seemed to be meant to present Mr Putin as the calm and reasonable humanitarian man that I believe he is. 

Th e communications strategy for the Kremlin seem to be that Medvedev delivers the strength warnings of nuclear Armageddon and Putin is more restrained in his pronouncements.....bad cop/good cop if you like. 

 

4 hours ago, Woof999 said:

 

The reasonable humanitarian man that has dictated the results of his own elections for around 2 decades? The good cop that does not allow ANY kind of free speech from his underlings that doesn't exactly match his vision? The man of the people that poisons or imprisons anyone even remotely popular as a political opponent?

 

Yeah, what a man. What an idol. Surely someone to look up to.

Can you please expand on Putin being a calm and reasonable humanitarian. A reply to Woof999's comments would be nice. 

3 hours ago, uttradit said:

So why didn't the "good" journalists get the interview?

Why do you think? Real journalists might have asked real questions? Why did you try to have Navalny killed? Why is your most viable political opponent locked up for 20 years? Etc, etc. 

On 2/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, Social Media said:

Putin took charge of the interview, delving into history and repeating his justifications for Russia's actions in Ukraine. Carlson, rather than pressing Putin on contentious topics, veered off-topic to discuss religion and Russian culture.

 

Hmm, perhaps the USA's finest should interview a few past presidents, starting with Bush Jnr on Iraq and it's weapons of mass destruction that they never found, Libya's Gaddafi for wanting to change currencies and other things and of course Afghanistan. From what I see is that America has always been the aggressor when it comes to toppling governments, NATO is a fast, I mean come on, the big boys club, we'll put them on your border, but don't you dare try and put them on ours, because we are not a threat to the world.....LoL 

 

On 2/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, Social Media said:

While Carlson portrayed the interview as an exercise in free speech, critics pointed out that Putin carefully selects interviewers who are unlikely to challenge him effectively. Moreover, Russia under Putin's leadership has a track record of suppressing free speech, including criminalizing the truth about the invasion of Ukraine.

 

Standard rhetoric past on to all major news outlets to feed us, let's deflect what the USA has been up to. That reminds me, can someone tell me how many wars Russia has started since 1991 and how many the USA has started ?

 

I think the USA was involved in just under 20, Russia half that, in it's own backyard.

 

Putin has won this war a long time ago, no matter how hard the USA tries to drum up support, the others know it's a dead duck.

 

Regardless of what people think of Putin, American Presidents are no different.

 

I think Tucker did a great job allowing Putin to tell it how it is, shame on the YANKS, they have no interest in freeing Ukraine, they just want to take down Russia to pilfer it's resources as they do with other countries. 

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, retarius said:

A great job by Tucker and Mr Putin. I do hope that viewers were comforted by Putin's grasp of history, by his calm demeanour, and that they believed his lack of desire to invade the whole of Europe. The event seemed to be meant to present Mr Putin as the calm and reasonable humanitarian man that I believe he is. 

Th e communications strategy for the Kremlin seem to be that Medvedev delivers the strength warnings of nuclear Armageddon and Putin is more restrained in his pronouncements.....bad cop/good cop if you like. 

What a joke! The calm and humanitarian ex-KGB guy who slaughtered the Chechens, bombed civilians in Ukraine, jailed and poisoned his opponents, who doesn't mind sending young Russian guys to death because of his incompetence? 😃

5 hours ago, retarius said:

A great job by Tucker and Mr Putin. I do hope that viewers were comforted by Putin's grasp of history, by his calm demeanour, and that they believed his lack of desire to invade the whole of Europe. The event seemed to be meant to present Mr Putin as the calm and reasonable humanitarian man that I believe he is. 

Th e communications strategy for the Kremlin seem to be that Medvedev delivers the strength warnings of nuclear Armageddon and Putin is more restrained in his pronouncements.....bad cop/good cop if you like. 

Yes, I am so relieved that Mr. Putin expressed his lack of desire to invade the whole of Europe, that he has no more “territorial demands.” The expression I’m looking for, I think, is “Peace for our time”! And his calm demeanor, too, is reassuring to those of us who doubted his wisdom and humanitarian-ness. He’s not shouting into a microphone or foaming at the mouth or wearing a funny, military-looking uniform, so he can’t be a dictator!

 

The good cop/bad cop scenario that you lay out is a good one. So smart! Medvedev and Lavrov can go all public with their doomsday talk, but Tucker’s sharp questioning during his interview has so made me feel better that Mr. Putin has a firm handle on things!

4 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Hmm, perhaps the USA's finest should interview a few past presidents, starting with Bush Jnr on Iraq and it's weapons of mass destruction that they never found, Libya's Gaddafi for wanting to change currencies and other things and of course Afghanistan. From what I see is that America has always been the aggressor when it comes to toppling governments, NATO is a fast, I mean come on, the big boys club, we'll put them on your border, but don't you dare try and put them on ours, because we are not a threat to the world.....LoL 

 

 

Standard rhetoric past on to all major news outlets to feed us, let's deflect what the USA has been up to. That reminds me, can someone tell me how many wars Russia has started since 1991 and how many the USA has started ?

 

I think the USA was involved in just under 20, Russia half that, in it's own backyard.

 

Putin has won this war a long time ago, no matter how hard the USA tries to drum up support, the others know it's a dead duck.

 

Regardless of what people think of Putin, American Presidents are no different.

 

I think Tucker did a great job allowing Putin to tell it how it is, shame on the YANKS, they have no interest in freeing Ukraine, they just want to take down Russia to pilfer it's resources as they do with other countries. 

 

 

 

 

So Ukraine must be invaded because of the war in Iraq? That's  completely incoherent.

2 minutes ago, candide said:

So Ukraine must be invaded because of the war in Iraq? That's  completely incoherent.

The amount of incoherence I've read in this thread is truly astonishing.

10 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

The amount of incoherence I've read in this thread is truly astonishing.

Right. 

Edited February 11, 20242 yr by candide

7 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

The amount of incoherence I've read in this thread is truly astonishing.

Lots of gibberish. I knew 2 years ago why the war started.

21 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Yes, I am so relieved that Mr. Putin expressed his lack of desire to invade the whole of Europe, that he has no more “territorial demands.” The expression I’m looking for, I think, is “Peace for our time”! And his calm demeanor, too, is reassuring to those of us who doubted his wisdom and humanitarian-ness. He’s not shouting into a microphone or foaming at the mouth or wearing a funny, military-looking uniform, so he can’t be a dictator!

 

The good cop/bad cop scenario that you lay out is a good one. So smart! Medvedev and Lavrov can go all public with their doomsday talk, but Tucker’s sharp questioning during his interview has so made me feel better that Mr. Putin has a firm handle on things!

Edited. I did not get it at first glance

 

Edited February 11, 20242 yr by candide

36 minutes ago, candide said:

Edited. I did not get it at first glance

 

When facts and history just don't work, the only kind of response that's left is full sarcasm.

39 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

 

 

Putin has won this war a long time ago, no matter how hard the USA tries to drum up support, the others know it's a dead duck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are joking, surely?

 

Russia is now a pariah state. GDP is only supported by conversion from a consumer economy to a war economy. The ruble has collapsed in value, and is only supported by interest rates of 15%.

The market for Russian gas in Europe is gone, never to return. It is forced to sell oil to India and China at discounted prices to finance its war effort. Russia has ceased publishing a lot of economic data, to hide how dire the real situation is.

 

There is no foreign investment in Russia. The Western technicians who helped run the oil fields in inhospitable places such as Siberia and Sakhalin are gone, and the indigenous engineering/technical workforce are all in their 60's. Once an oil well freezes in the permafrost, it has to be drilled again. That's the reason Russia is cutting back on oil production.

 

1 Million Russians of military age left Russia to escape the draft, including the best and brightest. They aren't going back. Russia is stretched for labor in all industries.

 

Russia has the tyrrany of distance to contend with. 70% of its domestic aircraft are Boeing and Airbus. The industry is being forced to cannibalize aircraft to keep going. If you feel lucky, I suggest a Russian domestic flight to test it. What can one say of an economy that mines refrigerators and washing machines for microchips to supply its defense industry? Or the same industry forced to buy ammunition from North Korea?

 

In Ukraine, Russia has lost 4000 tanks, and about 300,000 soldiers. Every purchaser of Russian armaments now has buyers' remorse, after seeing how poorly they are performing in the field.

 

IMO Russia will very probably become a vassal state of China over the next 10-20 years. It's been a kleptocracy since 1992, now it is paying the price in poorly equipped and trained troops. The Chinese probably can't believe their luck. Notice how the only support Xi is giving are words, nothing material?

 

Putin is losing badly, and no amount of softball questions from a puppet journalist can hide the facts.

 

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Putin is losing badly, and no amount of softball questions from a puppet journalist can hide the facts.

His life is probably better than yours. If being a billionaire dictator, living in palaces with maids and chefs, women at your call is losing then what is David doing on Soi 6?

3 minutes ago, uttradit said:

His life is probably better than yours. If being a billionaire dictator, living in palaces with maids and chefs, women at your call is losing then what is David doing on Soi 6?

So Putin is a failure as a leader but a success as a kleptocrat.  Do you think that's a good thing?

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

It's really dark in your rabbit hole, isn't it?

I'm not the one who needs to climb out of a hole and see the light.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

The surest sign that a poster can't back up his claims is when he tells others to do the research instead.

I've done my research, others need to do the same.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Many Putin fan boys claim the US is responsible for the Maiden revolution, and none of them give sources showing it to be true.

As if USA would leave evidence to it's involvement.

Stealth and proxy's are the USA way.

Just now, hotchilli said:

I'm not the one who needs to climb out of a hole and see the light.

No, I think you are.

 

What sources do you cite to support your posts?

 

Before you divert by challenging me to do the same, scroll up the page and you'll see.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

That's hilarious.