The encounter between Tucker Carlson and Russian President Vladimir Putin, marked by a two-hour interview, showcased Putin's dominance as he lectured extensively while Carlson largely listened. Despite Putin's status as a suspected war criminal, Carlson refrained from challenging him on key issues like Russia's invasion of Ukraine and its alleged war crimes.

 

Putin took charge of the interview, delving into history and repeating his justifications for Russia's actions in Ukraine. Carlson, rather than pressing Putin on contentious topics, veered off-topic to discuss religion and Russian culture.

 

While Carlson portrayed the interview as an exercise in free speech, critics pointed out that Putin carefully selects interviewers who are unlikely to challenge him effectively. Moreover, Russia under Putin's leadership has a track record of suppressing free speech, including criminalizing the truth about the invasion of Ukraine.

 

It wasn't until two hours into the interview that Carlson raised the topic of Evan Gershkovich, an American journalist imprisoned in Russia on espionage charges. However, Carlson's question seemed more like a request for a trophy from Putin than a genuine concern for Gershkovich's well-being.

 

Putin hinted at a potential prisoner swap during the interview, indicating that negotiations were underway involving multiple countries. This revelation underscored Putin's control of the conversation and his willingness to use it to advance Russia's interests.

 

Throughout the interview, Putin presented a distorted view of history and Ukraine's relationship with Russia, while Carlson failed to challenge these assertions effectively. Putin's rhetoric about dialogue and negotiation appeared to be aimed at exploiting hesitations among Ukraine's allies and sowing doubt among Ukrainians about continuing the fight.

 

Overall, the interview highlighted Putin's manipulation of the media and Carlson's willingness to provide a platform without holding Putin accountable for his actions. Critics viewed the interview as a missed opportunity to confront Putin on issues of political repression and human rights violations in Russia.

 

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Carlson did Putin a solid offered him a platform to spout propaganda and Putin made the best of it.

 

Absolutely no surprise whatsoever.

 

 

 

I only watch Western Propaganda.

Carlson was seriously out of his league, if he even knows what his league is (besides Donald Trump).

Edited February 10, 20242 yr by metisdead
Misspelling of Trump's name corrected.

2 hours ago, neeray said:

Carlson was seriously out of his league, if he even knows what his league is (besides Donald Trump).

Yes. Putin is a nasty dictator & murderer. But - as anyone who has ever watched him speak 'off the cuff' knows - he has brainpower, fluency, humour, knowledge and experience that allow him to dance rings around any Western 'leader' or up-himself would-be journalist.

If Carlson had become confrontational the interview wouldn't have lasted very long. As it is we learned that Putin remains as smart as he ever was, and far from the sick and deranged individual some media outlets would have us believe.

UK boris broke a possible peace deal 2 years ago

 

if you know ukraine is very corrupt, thai level

 

and they kept killing people since 2014

 

and those russians living at the border asked to be protected from... Ukraine genocide...

 

the west propaganda farce were shatting their pants and threaten tucker with a EU ban ?

Russia has been under attack from the west and USA for decades, trying to stifle the country in any way it can.

For decades the west with USA has been chipping away at Russia, breaking promise after promise, expanding NATO into almost every western border with Russia, after promising no NATO expansion.The EU saying the doors were open for Ukraine to join and have NATO walk in was the last straw.

But even then Putin had a peace plan on the table to have a cease fire. Until Boris flew in and had it thrown out.

The west and USA are totally to blame for pushing Russia too far.

 

Putin and his assets (in this case Tucker Carlson and some commentators on this forum) can repeat their Russian propaganda as much as they want, the world will not forget the massacres in Butcha and and all over Ukraine. The world will not forget the murders, the raping, the looting, the tortures of the Russian band of soldiers. And everybody knows: whenever a Russian official opens their mouth, a lie comes out.

17 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Russia has been under attack from the west and USA for decades, trying to stifle the country in any way it can.

For decades the west with USA has been chipping away at Russia, breaking promise after promise, expanding NATO into almost every western border with Russia, after promising no NATO expansion.The EU saying the doors were open for Ukraine to join and have NATO walk in was the last straw.

But even then Putin had a peace plan on the table to have a cease fire. Until Boris flew in and had it thrown out.

The west and USA are totally to blame for pushing Russia too far.

 

Right, the US and the West pushed Russia so far as to force it to brutally invade a sovereign country, murder tens of thousands of its civilians, destroy its cities, and lay plans to erase its ethnic identity. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

"President Obama was caught on an open microphone telling Russian President Dmitry Medvedev he would have more "flexibility" to negotiate on missile defense after the November election"

 

Obama's Medvedev Hot Mic Gaffe (wsj.com)

1 hour ago, mfd101 said:

Yes. Putin is a nasty dictator & murderer. But - as anyone who has ever watched him speak 'off the cuff' knows - he has brainpower, fluency, humour, knowledge and experience that allow him to dance rings around any Western 'leader' or up-himself would-be journalist.

There's only one Western leader we know  he danced rings around. He got that one to see he believed Putin rather than his own intelligence services.

24 minutes ago, placeholder said:

There's only one Western leader we know  he danced rings around. He got that one to see he believed Putin rather than his own intelligence services.

The intelligence services that told Bush Iraq had WMDs, worked with social media platforms to stifle free speech and told America that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

The intelligence services that told Bush Iraq had WMDs, worked with social media platforms to stifle free speech and told America that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation?

 

 

The intelligence service that was pressured into inventing a justification for the Iraq war by Bush and his chickenhawks, that worked with social media to delete or flag false or misleading posts, and that said Hunter's laptop had the hallmarks of Russian disinformation without passing judgment on whether it was.

 

Posts like yours are the kind of false and misleading information that too many people fall for.

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The intelligence service that was pressured into inventing a justification for the Iraq war by Bush and his chickenhawks,

Convinced the UK and the US as well. That was back before Trump when you guys were calling Bush Hitler, yes? 

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

that worked with social media to delete or flag false or misleading posts,

Including the Hunter laptop story even after they knew it was true. 

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

and that said Hunter's laptop had the hallmarks of Russian disinformation without passing judgment on whether it was.

Well, when Biden regurgitated it in his speech he sure seemed to indicate they had. 

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Posts like yours are the kind of false and misleading information that too many people fall for.

That's hilarious coming from someone with zero integrity. 

 

 

2 hours ago, john donson said:

UK boris broke a possible peace deal 2 years ago

 

if you know ukraine is very corrupt, thai level

 

and they kept killing people since 2014

 

and those russians living at the border asked to be protected from... Ukraine genocide...

 

the west propaganda farce were shatting their pants and threaten tucker with a EU ban ?

A quote from Boris (one of the few occasions I agree with him).

"You can’t negotiate with a bear while it’s eating your leg"

 

The rest of your post is State-controlled Russian propaganda.

I see the Russian Bots are not only on FB. 

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Russia has been under attack from the west and USA for decades, trying to stifle the country in any way it can.

For decades the west with USA has been chipping away at Russia, breaking promise after promise, expanding NATO into almost every western border with Russia, after promising no NATO expansion.The EU saying the doors were open for Ukraine to join and have NATO walk in was the last straw.

But even then Putin had a peace plan on the table to have a cease fire. Until Boris flew in and had it thrown out.

The west and USA are totally to blame for pushing Russia too far.

 

That was not an official promise, and the interlocutor at that time, the Soviet Union, collapsed since Russia declared its independence.

About the so-called peace plan, same quote:

"You can’t negotiate with a bear while it’s eating your leg,"

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

The intelligence services that told Bush Iraq had WMDs, worked with social media platforms to stifle free speech and told America that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation?

 

 

It's impressive how you can accumulate several inaccuracies in the same list.

- it's Bush and Cheney who pressured the intelligence services to provide "evidence". There were disagreement between the different services about it, which have been ignored by the administration,

- this point can be discussed, I.e.  disinformation about Covid is not protected free-speech

- no intelligence service told America that the laptop was Russian disinformation.

35 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Convinced the UK and the US as well. That was back before Trump when you guys were calling Bush Hitler, yes? 

Including the Hunter laptop story even after they knew it was true. 

Well, when Biden regurgitated it in his speech he sure seemed to indicate they had. 

That's hilarious coming from someone with zero integrity.

Intelligence about Iraq WMD's was ambiguous, which is what Saddam Hussein wanted.  Without pressure from Bush and the chicken hawks the intelligence agencies would have emphasized the ambiguity.  I never called Bush Hitler and don't recall anyone else doing so, but then you're known for making stuff up.

 

Really?  And what time were the contents of the laptop verified to be completely untampered with?

 

Link?

 

A standard Trump response, when accused of something you are clearly guilty of, accuse the accuser.

3 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Right, the US and the West pushed Russia so far as to force it to brutally invade a sovereign country, murder tens of thousands of its civilians, destroy its cities, and lay plans to erase its ethnic identity. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

And you obviously believe the western and USA media propaganda line.

19 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

And you obviously believe the western and USA media propaganda line.

Western media are not under government control, unlike Russian media.  Do you have a credible alternative to Western media?

One only needs to have a look at a few countries' GDP per capita to understand what Putin's real problem is.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/RUS/LVA/LTU/POL/CZE/EST/SVK

4 hours ago, neeray said:

Carlson was seriously out of his league, if he even knows what his league is (besides Donald Trump).

 

Not at all.  Unless your expectation was that he'd somehow maneuver Putin into looking like a madman.  Which wasn't his objective at all.

 

It'll take some talented historians months to parse all that was said in 2 hours.  But sadly, there are very few true historians and a lot of propagandists nowadays.  So we'll be getting carefully edited snippets from all sides, crafted to support whatever narrative they're peddling.

 

 

39 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

And you obviously believe the western and USA media propaganda line.

What are the independent Russian journalists saying (they had to leave Russia to avoid being jailed)?

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Not at all.  Unless your expectation was that he'd somehow maneuver Putin into looking like a madman.  Which wasn't his objective at all.

 

It'll take some talented historians months to parse all that was said in 2 hours.  But sadly, there are very few true historians and a lot of propagandists nowadays.  So we'll be getting carefully edited snippets from all sides, crafted to support whatever narrative they're peddling.

 

 

We agree that the objective was to have Putin look good!

Edit

There's nothing in what Putin said that hasn't been studied already by historians.

There are plenty of true historians, you know the kind of historians who follow a vigorous methodology and who publish in peer-reviewed academic journals.

Edited February 10, 20242 yr by candide

13 minutes ago, candide said:

One only needs to have a look at a few countries' GDP per capita to understand what Putin's real problem is.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/RUS/LVA/LTU/POL/CZE/EST/SVK

 

Conspicuously missing was Ukraine at a whopping $4,xxx, never exceeding $5,000 per capita.  Meaning that Ukes that live in the newly Russified areas are likely to see their standard of living rise once the killing stops and the rebuilding begins.

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/UKR/ukraine/gdp-per-capita

 

 

5 minutes ago, candide said:

We agree that the objective was to have Putin look good!

The objective was to get an interview. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, candide said:

One only needs to have a look at a few countries' GDP per capita to understand what Putin's real problem is.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/RUS/LVA/LTU/POL/CZE/EST/SVK

How is it a problem for Russia? They have a lot more solders to lose and a lot more money to spend.  

 

China is not on the list either, but Russia's per capita GDP is higher. Does that mean Russia is stronger than China?