webfact Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Thailand is facing a grave environmental crisis as PM 2.5 levels soar to dangerous heights, threatening the health of millions. The Thai Ministry of Higher Education, Science, Research, and Innovation (MHESI), in partnership with the Geo-Informatics and Space Technology Development Agency (GISTDA) and other relevant bodies, took decisive action to combat this escalating threat. The Check Dust application, utilising cutting-edge satellite technology and AI, revealed a disturbing reality with PM 2.5 concentrations reaching hazardous levels in several provinces, posing severe health risks to the populace. According to satellite data obtained through the Check Dust application at 8am yesterday, February 8, alarming levels of PM 2.5 were identified in 14 provinces across Thailand, posing significant health hazards to respiratory systems. by Mitch Connor Photo courtesy of Pattaya News Full story: The Thaiger 2024-02-10 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoePai Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 took decisive action to combat this escalating threat Nonsense - they allow it to happen, would be easy to stamp out the local fires, he is a snap shot of a small area this morning near KK : 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flyingtlger Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 22 minutes ago, webfact said: took decisive action to combat this escalating threat. What were the decisive actions??? 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 Mostly NE provinces topping the list. Couldn't be all the rice, sugar & corn farming. Strange that they burn so much, as the Korat plateau is fairly flat. In the N, it's understandable, sort of, as running a tractor on hills to turn the soil isn't the most practical or safest way at times. NE, it's simply easier & cheaper to burn it. Part of the reason I left Udon Thani, as it used to rain black dust from the sugar burning. Rather annoying when having a pool. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenwich Boy Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Mostly NE provinces topping the list. Couldn't be all the rice, sugar & corn farming. Strange that they burn so much, as the Korat plateau is fairly flat. In the N, it's understandable, sort of, as running a tractor on hills to turn the soil isn't the most practical or safest way at times. NE, it's simply easier & cheaper to burn it. Part of the reason I left Udon Thani, as it used to rain black dust from the sugar burning. Rather annoying when having a pool. The vast majority of fires in the north are not agricultural but deliberately lit forest fires which can be difficult to access and put out. After burning the 'free' hed thob mushrooms are picked and sold for mega bucks 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 There is nothing new under the sun about this. Are we suppose to be surprise? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 And? It hasn't even gotten bad yet. Wait for another 30 days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Greenwich Boy said: The vast majority of fires in the north are not agricultural but deliberately lit forest fires which can be difficult to access and put out. After burning the 'free' hed thob mushrooms are picked and sold for mega bucks That's pretty sad. Was up that way, CM area, years ago, when announced Japan gave a few million $$$ to TH, to help the fight against burning/smog. While driving around, most fires we saw were municipality worker burning roadside brush. I notice the same now, the govt push to stop the burning, and yet, they have no problem burning the brush at the local park, and a huge burn pit at the PWA, as they maintain their nicely manicured little park area behind the offices. Edited February 10 by KhunLA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenwich Boy Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, KhunLA said: That's pretty sad. Was up that way, CM area, years ago, when announced Japan gave a few million $$$ to TH, to help the fight against burning/smog. While driving around, most fires we saw were municipality worker burning roadside brush. I notice the same now, the govt push to stop the burning, and yet, they have no problem burning the brush at the local park, and a huge burn pit at the PWA, as they maintain their nicely manicured little park area behind the offices. Yes, they still blatantly burn the roadside leaf litter but when they set a fire in the hills it can cover a huge area 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Callmeishmael Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 Here's a quote from the article in the OP: These hotspots were predominantly located in protected forest areas, national forest reserves, agricultural areas, communities, and other regions. So the latest government response that I heard about was to start checking the exhaust of the ferry boats in the Chao Phraya River! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) Let me draw your attention to the map provided and "the realities of pm25" focusing on Bangkok. Above map and below that today. https://www.iqair.com/air-quality-map Edited February 10 by dinsdale 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Mostly NE provinces topping the list. Couldn't be all the rice, sugar & corn farming. Strange that they burn so much, as the Korat plateau is fairly flat. In the N, it's understandable, sort of, as running a tractor on hills to turn the soil isn't the most practical or safest way at times. NE, it's simply easier & cheaper to burn it. Part of the reason I left Udon Thani, as it used to rain black dust from the sugar burning. Rather annoying when having a pool. Last few weeks it was Bangkok. We got hit by it hard here in Jomtien. Mainly coming from factories and vehicles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Roo Island said: Last few weeks it was Bangkok. We got hit by it hard here in Jomtien. Mainly coming from factories and vehicles. Bangkok has consistently had high pm 2.5 for the last 3 months. It's rare to see a blue sky and the sun. Basically the sky is brown on a daily basis. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 30 minutes ago, Callmeishmael said: Here's a quote from the article in the OP: These hotspots were predominantly located in protected forest areas, national forest reserves, agricultural areas, communities, and other regions. So the latest government response that I heard about was to start checking the exhaust of the ferry boats in the Chao Phraya River! That is an easy fix. Many small marine engines have water-cooled exhausts so conversion with gov. help would be easy. Even RC boats😲 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Bangkok has consistently had high pm 2.5 for the last 3 months. It's rare to see a blue sky and the sun. Basically the sky is brown on a daily basis. We're We're right on Jomtien beach. Great view. But most days can't see Koh Laarn or Sattahip mountains. Terrible. We. Leave the doors open all day. Before bed, we rinse our feet off and it's pure black. We have to damp mop almost every day 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, Roo Island said: We're We're right on Jomtien beach. Great view. But most days can't see Koh Laarn or Sattahip mountains. Terrible. We. Leave the doors open all day. Before bed, we rinse our feet off and it's pure black. We have to damp mop almost every day I've just been to Chiang Mai and someone told me to enjoy the view of the mountains because coming soon you won't be able to see them. Sadly the worst is yet to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sydebolle Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 A load of crock, as usual ............ anyone living here for a longer period of time can confirm smog and coughing being a daily nuisance meanwhile. If it does not improve, then I shall leave this country - I had it with all this bo11ocks! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sydebolle said: A load of crock, as usual ............ anyone living here for a longer period of time can confirm smog and coughing being a daily nuisance meanwhile. If it does not improve, then I shall leave this country - I had it with all this bo11ocks! I don't know how people tolerate living further N than us, 1 hr below Hua Hin. Lived in Udon Thani for 16 years, and last 10 ish years, I noticed how really bad it was or was getting. Had hills in the distance west of the house, 4 ridges, and on mediocre smog days, you couldn't even see them from 2nd floor veranda. Same if on top level of Central Plaza parking garage, you couldn't see any of the distant hillside around the city. Edited February 10 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 How many joss sticks are these Buddhists burning?.....and how come they only burn them just as the sugarcane burning starts? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand is facing a grave environmental crisis as PM 2.5 levels soar to dangerous heights, threatening the health of millions. Now that's something you won't see on the front page of a glossy brochure... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 How does a satellite camera measure the diameter of fine dust particles in the air near the earth's surface and determine the weight of the particles measuring 2.5 micrometres per cubic metre of air I am not suggesting that it is impossible but I am genuinely interested in knowing how this is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerzy65 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 great article but forgot to post link on the app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Puccini said: How does a satellite camera measure the diameter of fine dust particles in the air near the earth's surface and determine the weight of the particles measuring 2.5 micrometres per cubic metre of air I am not suggesting that it is impossible but I am genuinely interested in knowing how this is done. Poor writing (or no writing at all: Thanks Chat GTP) "The Check Dust application, utilising cutting-edge satellite technology and AI, revealed a disturbing reality with PM 2.5 concentrations reaching hazardous levels in several provinces, posing severe health risks to the populace." You see stuff like "... revealed a disturbing reality" you know it's Chat GTP. Just lazy psuedo journalism. Only thing sats have to do with it is GPS location of the ground units collecting the air quality samples. Edited February 10 by dinsdale 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 23 hours ago, flyingtlger said: What were the decisive actions??? They suggested people not burn incense sticks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Has anyone found "The Check Dust" application yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 50 minutes ago, Puccini said: Has anyone found "The Check Dust" application yet? Yep. https://aqicn.org/city/chiang-mai/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 more than decade ago RTP had CO2 checks on vehicles. They stopped any suspicious car/bus/tuk-tuk and shove a probe into exhaust pipe. Good intention but unfortunately it ends up without any outcome. The owner of kindergarten told me that the big tree in front of the kindergarten protects from PM2.5 so children can play outdoor while AQI was above 150 et cetera et cetera. Amazing Thailand! PS: AQI 50 considers dangerous and "you better stay home". What about 150??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I found it finally on Google Play Store for Android phones, where it is listed with the Thai name เช็คฝุ่น https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gistda.pm25check Have fun with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I would have a modicum of respect for Srettha if he did something useful by pouring his energy for this very real and damaging issue instead of his smiling donkey bull<deleted> for trivialities and anything China. Severely punish burners, impound any and all smoke belching vehicles and crush them, hoover up road dust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) On 2/10/2024 at 1:13 PM, Puccini said: How does a satellite camera measure the diameter of fine dust particles in the air near the earth's surface and determine the weight of the particles measuring 2.5 micrometres per cubic metre of air I am not suggesting that it is impossible but I am genuinely interested in knowing how this is done. By measuring the difference in scattering of infrared light in the 8.7 and 12µm wavelength bands, which correspond to the particle size of interest. The bigger the difference the more particles of that size. You can also use wavelengths near 2.5 and 5µm. Other wavelengths are blocked by the atmosphere. Edited February 11 by rabas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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