Popular Post Social Media Posted February 20 Popular Post Share Posted February 20 As speculation swirls around the possibility of Donald Trump's return to power, an influential think tank closely aligned with the former president is gearing up to infuse Christian nationalist ideas into a hypothetical second administration, according to documents obtained by POLITICO. Leading this effort is Russell Vought, who previously served as Trump's director of the Office of Management and Budget and maintains a close relationship with him. Vought, now the president of The Center for Renewing America (CRA), is part of a conservative consortium preparing for a potential second term for Trump, with "Christian nationalism" listed as a key priority. Christian nationalists advocate for the prioritization of Christian values in government and public life, believing that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. Despite the country's increasing diversity and secularization, Vought and his allies view Christians as under threat and are poised to advance policies aligned with their beliefs. While specific Christian nationalist policies are not outlined in the documents, Vought has previously supported a restrictive immigration agenda, citing Biblical teachings as justification. He has also aligned himself with William Wolfe, a proponent of Christian nationalism who has advocated for measures such as overturning same-sex marriage and restricting access to contraception. Vought's vision for a second Trump administration includes a robust emphasis on Christian principles, with plans to shape public policy accordingly. This effort is part of a broader strategy by conservative groups to influence the direction of a potential future administration. However, the timeline for these initiatives depends on the outcome of Trump's legal battles and potential Supreme Court rulings on issues such as presidential immunity. Nevertheless, Vought and his allies remain committed to advancing their agenda, buoyed by their proximity to Trump and his base of evangelical supporters. Despite Trump's own lack of devout religious adherence, he has forged strong alliances with Christian conservatives, who have been a reliable voting bloc for him. Trump's campaign rhetoric has often invoked themes of Christian persecution and the need for federal intervention to protect religious freedom. As Vought and his organization seek to renew America's commitment to its Christian heritage, they face opposition from critics who view their agenda as divisive and exclusionary. Nevertheless, they are undeterred in their mission to shape public policy in alignment with their religious beliefs, potentially ushering in one of the most conservative executive branches in modern American history. 21.02.24 Source 1 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animalmagic Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 In an attempt to be more attractive to voters Christian Nationalists now prefer to be referred to as Nationalist Christians. Nat C's for short. 2 2 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 Such a misnomer, as it has very little to do with nationalism, and nothing at all with being a good Christian. It’s just an obvious cover for white supremacist fascism, plain and simple, aimed at DT becoming the imperial wizard of the country. 5 1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 Has Trump ever attended a church service? He is the polar opposite of a good Christian. Just more deception by the top huckster. 6 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Has Trump ever attended a church service? He is the polar opposite of a good Christian. Just more deception by the top huckster. I agree, also there is no mention of America being a Christian nation in any of its statutes. 3 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Has Trump ever attended a church service? He is the polar opposite of a good Christian. Just more deception by the top huckster. It’s a total mystery to me how the evangelicals, all those born again hypocrites, can embrace Trump, possibly the least Christian man in the world, as their messiah and savior. What Trump needs is an exorcism, not the support of the evangelicals. 3 1 2 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 Got to laugh at the false Christian mafia.....if they weren't so scary in their bigotry and ignorance. 6 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 Just now, rudi49jr said: It’s a total mystery to me how the evangelicals, all those born again hypocrites, can embrace Trump, possibly the least Christian man in the world, as their messiah and savior. What Trump needs is an exorcism, not the support of the evangelicals. Trump the anti-Christ for president. 4 1 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, rudi49jr said: It’s a total mystery to me how the evangelicals, all those born again hypocrites, can embrace Trump, possibly the least Christian man in the world, as their messiah and savior. What Trump needs is an exorcism, not the support of the evangelicals. I agree if there is a devil he certainly lives within Trump. I have asked Christians how they reconcile being able to support Trump and their beliefs. The answer is always the same. I'm not voting for the man, I'm voting for his policies, and democratic policies are very distant from my own personal beliefs. That's the best answer that I've been able to get. As a Democrat I don't hold the support of Trump personally, against anybody. I do believe that the alternative is marginally better. I do wish the Dems had better policy, more coherent policy, and I certainly wish they had a better and younger candidate, and a less toxic VP. Edited February 21 by spidermike007 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 There goes the rightwing retort ‘if you want to live in a theocracy go to Iran’. They don’t do anything in the Constitution except for the 2nd amendment. 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Jesus wept. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Christian values AND nationalism? Wow, this is going to get the lefties really riled up. Probably why they did it. 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/21/2024 at 2:18 PM, animalmagic said: In an attempt to be more attractive to voters Christian Nationalists now prefer to be referred to as Nationalist Christians. Nat C's for short. I did not see that coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Ah yes, KKKristian Talibangicals. For non-Americans, here's a little quiz: How many times does any deity appear in the US Constitution? Answer: Zero Neither Madison nor Jefferson believed in any deity, nor did the majority of the Founders. What they absolutely did put into the Constitution, however, was 'separation of church and state'. Folks are free to believe whatever superstition makes them happy, but they cannot bring it into governance. Sadly, trump and McConnell stuffed the SC with crazy Catholics, though they would likely be at odds (as Papists) with the KKKristian Talibangicals. 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Christian values AND nationalism? Wow, this is going to get the lefties really riled up. Probably why they did it. What Christian values would that be? Hate thy neighbor just because they have a different skin color and/or opinions and beliefs? Screw over the poor? You shall covet? Thou shall bear false witness? Thou shall steal? Please enlighten me. 1 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Christian values AND nationalism? Wow, this is going to get the lefties really riled up. Probably why they did it. You really think they're doing this to get the lefties riled up? Not because they want to infuse Christian Nationalism into American politics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: What Christian values would that be? Hate thy neighbor just because they have a different skin color and/or opinions and beliefs? Screw over the poor? You shall covet? Thou shall bear false witness? Thou shall steal? Please enlighten me. I wasn't aware those were Christian values. Christianophobia is not an admirable trait. 4 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 33 minutes ago, Tug said: Nope and he won’t see what these morons have done and are doing to women’s rights?see them do Putin’s bidding in murdering a nation?their messiah is an adjudged rapist soon to be a convicted felon tryed to steal the presidency they can bloviate all the want he ain’t gonna be president Man I hope you are right by the way an Alabama SC judge just ruled about embryos after apparently talking to God 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I wasn't aware those were Christian values. Christianophobia is not an admirable trait. If those are not Christian values, then why do so many evangelicals support Trump? His bible seems to contain the exact opposite of what the evangelicals claim they believe in. I wasn’t aware that I was being Christianophobic. I have no problems with Christians, used to be one myself. As long as they leave other people be, they can believe in anything they want, as far as I’m concerned. I was just trying to point out the enormous hypocrisy of the evangelical movement. Claiming to be Christians, yet supporting a guy who is anything but Christian. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 20 minutes ago, stevenl said: You really think they're doing this to get the lefties riled up? Not because they want to infuse Christian Nationalism into American politics? They already have infused it the lefties aka people that believe in American Democracy and that women and POC are first class citizens need to get riled up much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, rudi49jr said: If those are not Christian values, then why do so many evangelicals support Trump? His bible seems to contain the exact opposite of what the evangelicals claim they believe in. I wasn’t aware that I was being Christianophobic. I have no problems with Christians, used to be one myself. As long as they leave other people be, they can believe in anything they want, as far as I’m concerned. I was just trying to point out the enormous hypocrisy of the evangelical movement. Claiming to be Christians, yet supporting a guy who is anything but Christian. There are no christian supporters of DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 18 minutes ago, stevenl said: You really think they're doing this to get the lefties riled up? Not because they want to infuse Christian Nationalism into American politics? Possibly killing 2 birds with one stone. America is a predominantly Christian country so politically it would make sense to appeal to those with Christian values. It's not like he's the first one to do it. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/biden-catholic-christian.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Walker88 said: Ah yes, KKKristian Talibangicals. For non-Americans, here's a little quiz: How many times does any deity appear in the US Constitution? Answer: Zero Neither Madison nor Jefferson believed in any deity, nor did the majority of the Founders. What they absolutely did put into the Constitution, however, was 'separation of church and state'. Folks are free to believe whatever superstition makes them happy, but they cannot bring it into governance. Sadly, trump and McConnell stuffed the SC with crazy Catholics, though they would likely be at odds (as Papists) with the KKKristian Talibangicals. Leonard Leo the Federalist Society SC -Catholics for Fascism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayRay Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 26 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: What Christian values would that be? Hate thy neighbor just because they have a different skin color and/or opinions and beliefs? Screw over the poor? You shall covet? Thou shall bear false witness? Thou shall steal? Please enlighten me. Why u hate Christian’s so much ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post charleskerins Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Possibly killing 2 birds with one stone. America is a predominantly Christian country so politically it would make sense to appeal to those with Christian values. It's not like he's the first one to do it. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/biden-catholic-christian.html The ones that he appeals to do not have Christian values -they go to church and profess their faith but they are not Christians 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayRay Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 This is good to hear. christianity and love of your country are 2 bedrocks of our great USA 2 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, charleskerins said: The ones that he appeals to do not have Christian values -they go to church and profess their faith but they are not Christians You must know an awful lot of people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 10 minutes ago, EastBayRay said: This is good to hear. christianity and love of your country are 2 bedrocks of our great USA Secularism too. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, EastBayRay said: This is good to hear. christianity and love of your country are 2 bedrocks of our great USA The GOP will not like this article. It's a vote killer for most. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/10/27/45-of-americans-say-u-s-should-be-a-christian-nation/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 26 minutes ago, EastBayRay said: Why u hate Christian’s so much ? I don’t hate Christians. I hate hypocrites claiming to be Christians. See the difference? 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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