Swiss retiree’s brutal attack on Thai woman sparks outcry in Trang

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

So you think "racism" exists only in Thailand?

Read one more time, 

[alex8912]

1 hour ago, Mr Dome said:

Absolutely shocking. This should have some serious consequences.

 

Also, why do I keep seeing this about Western retirees in Thailand? What makes them so aggressive there?

Cherry picked articles come to mind. There are so many nice foreign folks doing some great things here in Thailand. I think those stories would still get some good clicks here. 

[Negita43]

11 minutes ago, Abmong said:

Misquoted me, I never said that. Someone else's comment

Apologies to you I'll try to find the original post because it's still true

 

[Lemsta69]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

When will they ever learn?

 

Ignorant people who leave their shopping carts in the middle of the aisle? Probably never 🤣

[theblether]

59 minutes ago, Mr Dome said:

Absolutely shocking. This should have some serious consequences.

 

Also, why do I keep seeing this about Western retirees in Thailand? What makes them so aggressive there?

 

There's been a surge of recent arrival farangs who have post-covid syndrome. They've lost the plot, unnecessarily, bizarrely aggressive and argumentative. At the risk of inflaming the forum I knocked one out last year, a raving lunatic who the Thais detested. The guy chose to pull me up for nothing and after trying to mollify the situation I saw red. Also, I couldn't believe the level of passive aggressive nonsense in Hua Hin of all places. Hua Hin!!! Guys were cracking up over nothing. 

 

In my opinion those of us who lived in Thailand during the covid period were the luckiest people on earth. We didn't endure being locked away for months on end. Rural Thailand got away effectively unscathed, urban Thailand found it tougher. There's no doubt that Western covid lockdowns have caused immense behavioural problems across many age groups. Added to that people are getting superheated over stuff they can't control. Expats are bad for that, sitting all day on internet forums arguing about stuff thousands of miles away. 

[RT555]

12 hours ago, Dolf said:

Find this hard to believe. More to story. She probably made racist comments or something.

Yes, I believe there is more to the story and she was most likely provoked a situation. Not saying this Eurotrash is right.

But, you throw a water bottle at me potentially injuring me.....I'm throwing.......just saying.

[AustinRacing]

The son and relatives of the woman have one thing in mind, I guess. 

[Sydebolle]

Let's wait for the flip side of the coin ......... 

File a complaint, take him to court, deal with it according to the Thai law but - for heaven's sake - get on with life and stop fanning uncontrollable xenophobia and pure racism. 99.99% of those "dirty farang" (as per a Thai minister) and "alien" (not from outer space but just outside the Thai border) are law abiding citizen. 

Teachers rape/lash students under their care here, how many men mistreat women, how many children are exploited to no end - all by Thais and only once you clean up this country full of corrupt manure you will be taken serious. 

 

[Startmeup]

10 hours ago, Cricky said:

This could be why the Swiss are attacking Thai women, they are fed up.

Getting justice. 😮

 

Very strange that 73yo riding his bicycle around midnight. Weird.

Not a good idea.

Probably doing the right thing by not driving home drunk has cost him his life?

If you look at the picture he had a light on the back of the bike.
Lady maybe on her phone or more than likely at her age half blind and shouldn't be driving at all. 

[josephbloggs]

7 hours ago, Ross Johnson said:

dont believe this story. willing to bet money it didnt happen like this at all.

 

Wow, Ross Johnson, you've just hit new low for AN (which takes some doing).

There are photos of her with a broken nose, blood everywhere, facial injuries. There are witnesses, lots of them. And there is a photo of him, sat in the police station, not a scratch on him. So tell us, how you YOU think it went down?

I honestly can't believe there are people who hate Thais and/or women so much that they can say something like you just did. Sick sick sick.

By the way, I'll take you up on your offer - how much are you willing to bet? Put your money where your disgusting misogynistic or racist mouth is. Why automatically side with him otherwise?

[josephbloggs]

7 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

So what, I am guessing you will always find the farang guilty.

In this case please explain how he isn't. He attacked her (dozens of witnesses). She is old, she has a broken nose and facial injuries, there are pictures of her with severe injuries and blood everywhere. He doesn't have a scratch on him.

So please tell me why we shouldn't think he is guilty.

 

I am truly almost done with this forum. So many disgusting, Thai hating, misogynistic losers, and they are allowed to post freely. 

[josephbloggs]

6 hours ago, Dolf said:

She pushed in or abused him or hit him first. 

Even if she had pushed in, is that a green light for him to beat the <deleted> out of her, break her nose, and smash her face in to the floor? He is scum and so is anyone who tries to defend his attack on an old woman.

[rudi49jr]

53 minutes ago, RT555 said:

Yes, I believe there is more to the story and she was most likely provoked a situation. Not saying this Eurotrash is right.

But, you throw a water bottle at me potentially injuring me.....I'm throwing.......just saying.

This has been pointed out several times already in this thread: the water bottle was thrown after he had already beaten her up and she was on the ground. Just saying….

Edited March 6 by rudi49jr

[rudi49jr]

46 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

The son and relatives of the woman have one thing in mind, I guess. 

How would you feel if your mother/aunt/loved one was beaten up by a POS farang coward and had to spend a month in the hospital as a result of that? Would you not want compensation for her?

[AustinRacing]

5 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

How would you feel if your mother/aunt/loved one was beaten up by a POS farang coward and had to spend a month in the hospital as a result of that? Would you not want compensation for her?

Question is primarily for her or for themselves ?

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, AustinRacing said:

Question is primarily for her or for themselves ?

Does it really matter? The guy was an absolute a-hole for beating her up and putting her in the hospital. Let the court decide what he needs to pay in damages. And if the woman does get money out of this, her relatives are very probably going to get some of that as well anyway, that’s just the way things work in Thailand.

[Shetraveler]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Let's hope the Thai woman who hit and run killed a 73 year old Swiss tourist in Pattaya last night gets similar attention.

Whataboutism is used when you have nothing.
Are you condoning the attack on this woman?

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Abmong said:

What is with all this Whataboutisms? One crime doesn't have to do with the other. Man did vile crime, he should face the consequences and do hard time and deported.

 

1 hour ago, Shetraveler said:

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Let's hope the Thai woman who hit and run killed a 73 year old Swiss tourist in Pattaya last night gets similar attention.

Whataboutism is used when you have nothing.
Are you condoning the attack on this woman?

 

'whataboutsim'....   I think you are missing the point of the comments.... 

 

No one is condoning the attack, everyone is condemning the behaviour of the swiss attacker. 

 

BUT.... what is being brought into question is the the measure of equality in the charges and penalties...   It seems to be the more 'experienced forum members who've clearly been here a long time and are cynical of dual-penalties....

 

....and perhaps rightly so... If this were a Thai guy who attacked the woman, what type of charges and penalty would expect to see ??

 

Do any of us expect the Swiss Man's charges and penalty to be the same ???? 

 

I hope they throw the book at him.... and my cynicism suggests they will, but if it were a Thai guy the outrage would be less, the media coverage a lot less.... and quite likely the penalty rather paltry.....

 

 

 

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I hope the swiss man faces serious charges for his behaviour - or at least the same degree of (serious?) charges a Thai would face in exactly the same situation. 

 

[BigStar]

4 hours ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

Ignorant people who leave their shopping carts in the middle of the aisle? Probably never 🤣

 

Then can farang expats learn not to react by striking her multiple times and then fleeing the scene. Witnesses report Natchanan threw a water bottle in retaliation, after which Straumann returned, choking and beating her further, even slamming her head against the floor?

Edited March 6 by BigStar

[josephbloggs]

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

There's got to be more to this story than we are hearing ......

 

is the Swiss guy pregnant.

 

it must be ' get the Swiss '  month. 

 

Ah, here he comes riding in on his white horse - the great defender of all farangs! Surprised it took you eight pages to get here, did Dobbin have a problem?

[Rampant Rabbit]

16 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

you will no doubt be quoting your own “ attempted murder “ next

of  course you wouldnt deflect either

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, RT555 said:

Yes, I believe there is more to the story and she was most likely provoked a situation. Not saying this Eurotrash is right.

But, you throw a water bottle at me potentially injuring me.....I'm throwing.......just saying.

She threw it after she'd been pummeled once. Did you actually read the article?

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, AustinRacing said:

The son and relatives of the woman have one thing in mind, I guess. 

Yes, I agree. They will want to get justice for her after she had her face smashed in the floor, her nose broken, and sufferent many other injuries after being brutally attacked by a maniac.

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

99.99% of those "dirty farang" (as per a Thai minister) and "alien" (not from outer space but just outside the Thai border) are law abiding citizen. 

 

Sorry if this affects the chip on your shoulder, but "alien" isn't a uniquely Thai term, it is standard.

The UK has an "Aliens Act" about immigration, and most countries refer to non nationals as "aliens".

[Paris333]

The new Thai Prime Minister Mr Srettha must activate the criminal record in the Interpol travel documents on all Westerners who have commited crime or serious  offences and want to stay or visit again the beautiful Thai.

Thai citizens are not second "bus class" citizens to accept unacceptable criminal behaviour from westerners
Western citizens who have committed offenses in Thailand sould ban from entering the Kingdom of Thailand for five (5) years while in their international travel documents should be written that they have committed offenses in Thailand.
When they visit Thailand again, the Suvarnabhumi Police should interrogate them in detail, reminding them about of the crime they have committed since years ago.

As European citizen from Greece I feel ashamed from the second in few days Swiss unacceptable behaviour to Thai ladies.

Violence against ladies or to anyone is not acceptable to any country mainly with high feminist movements as it exitst in Switzerland Federation.

Royal Thai Police Authorities ought to investigate very carefully violences against women from "large" north European citizens because we are not talking about of violence against women but to a clear misogynist behaviour.

Only in Austria Vienna capital since 1 January tottaly 7 women have been murdered and uncounted numbers of rapes.

Thai Prime Minister Mr Srettha "message" received?

 

Edited March 6 by Paris333

[1sickpuppy]

18 hours ago, RandiRona said:

Throw all the books at him. What a vile deranged individual.

i highly recommend youth in asia

[kiwikeith]

18 hours ago, ezzra said:

I think there was enough and much more that have been said about this subject, yes, this guy is an a-hole and

by now he got or will get what he deserves, but not like he murdered or rapped someone,

not as if the locals are white doves in their treatments of their fellow Thais, so ok, the message was clear

and everyone learned a lot from it... 

A thai women through things at me when I returned a crook cellphone she sold me, she lost face and screemed at me, I grabbed another one she was comparing it with and ran, she threw the broken one at me hitting me in the head, good shot, I kept running and disappeared. 

These were in the day's of not having to show ID, she had put my Sim into the new phone already. 

 

I did not ever think of retaliation, I just wanted to get away from her as quickly as possible. 

[RandiRona]

14 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

I find it strange that a "bump" would lead to this, you seem quick to condemn the guy, I don't think we have the whole story  from both sides.

There are lot of witnesses who saw him assaulting that poor woman. Regardless of how event took place, violence is unacceptable. I am sure you would agree with that.

[RandiRona]

1 hour ago, 1sickpuppy said:

i highly recommend youth in asia

Do you mean youth coming to Asia ? Or you mean assaulting only young in Asia? Didn't get your point.

[Lemsta69]

4 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

Then can farang expats learn not to react by striking her multiple times and then fleeing the scene. Witnesses report Natchanan threw a water bottle in retaliation, after which Straumann returned, choking and beating her further, even slamming her head against the floor?

 

I think you need to take a cold shower mate.