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7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Have you watched it, if so stop being inflammatory, why are you keeping it a secret. It's supposed to be a debate not a game of charades!

 

Of course I watched it. How else could I quote from it? Sheesh.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Of course I watched it. How else could I quote from it? Sheesh.

Why don't you reveal your little secret for all to judge? Sheesh.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Where was I required to state who said it? It's in the link.  I didn't care who said it. I cared only about the sentiment expressed. You're running away from the sentiment and doing whatever you can to discredit me for quoting it. Pretty telling.

You are discrediting yourself, no help from me needed

9 hours ago, ezzra said:

Not sure where from you got the idea that Israel want to occupy Gaza, a link to that claim would be helpful,

 

The world, This world, has a problem with Jews, and for centuries, every possible attempt was done to eliminate 

the Jewish people, starting from the pharaohs of Egypt all the way to modern times and I'm not going to list

here the countries, empires, nations and powers that tried and almost succeeded,

Hundreds of millions around the world hate Jews, ask them why and you'll get a nonsensical reply,

most of them never met a Jew in their lives of can point on the map where Israel or Gaza is,

they hate because this is what the world did and still do,

Back to Gaza, Israel will go all the way to destroy those who aim to destroy it, and the hell with anyone

who has pity on terrorists, rapist and murderess...

Links about Israeli settlers wanting to occupy Gaza have been posted here.

I do understand that there are many who hate Jews, for what reason, I didn't know. I had some Jewish friends growing up, and I spent some time with them and their families. There were Jews in my college, and some were friends. I never really gave much thought to what was happening in Israel and only in the past year or so began seeing and reading reports on what was going on there. Even then, I just assumed it was a dispute between two rivals who wanted control of the same land, but I never thought it would end up like this.

After seeing and reading what has happened over the past six months and reading in more detail about what has been happening over the past 75 years, and now seeing the vile, bitter, and insulting comments from the pro-(censored)s on this forum who are fixated on supporting the killing or driving all Palestinians out of what used to be their land, if these posters are anything like regular Israelis, I can understand why there are "hundreds of millions around the world" who hate Jews.

14 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Links about Israeli settlers wanting to occupy Gaza have been posted here.

I do understand that there are many who hate Jews, for what reason, I didn't know. I had some Jewish friends growing up, and I spent some time with them and their families. There were Jews in my college, and some were friends. I never really gave much thought to what was happening in Israel and only in the past year or so began seeing and reading reports on what was going on there. Even then, I just assumed it was a dispute between two rivals who wanted control of the same land, but I never thought it would end up like this.

After seeing and reading what has happened over the past six months and reading in more detail about what has been happening over the past 75 years, and now seeing the vile, bitter, and insulting comments from the pro-(censored)s on this forum who are fixated on supporting the killing or driving all Palestinians out of what used to be their land, if these posters are anything like regular Israelis, I can understand why there are "hundreds of millions around the world" who hate Jews.

 

Interesting testimony. A lot of people have experienced a similar shift in awareness lately.

25 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Interesting testimony. A lot of people have experienced a similar shift in awareness lately.

Promoting Jew hatred. Jew haters always have an excuse.

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Promoting Jew hatred. Jew haters always have an excuse.

They all have very conveniently imaginary Jewish friends though. 🥴

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Promoting Jew hatred. Jew haters always have an excuse.

I was not "promoting" Jew hatred. Just as I have never "promoted" or "justified" the Oct 7 attack, nor will I ever "promote" or "justify" the retaliatory, revengeful, indiscriminate bombing of Gaza.

What I have done and will continue to do is try to provide a balanced view of these subjects and "explain" from the different perspectives on why these things occur.

And I am not a "Jew hater," nor am I an "Arab hater." 

Just now, WDSmart said:

I was not "promoting" Jew hatred. Just as I have never "promoted" or "justified" the Oct 7 attack, nor will I ever "promote" or "justify" the retaliatory, revengeful, indiscriminate bombing of Gaza.

What I have done and will continue to do is try to provide a balanced view of these subjects and "explain" from the different perspectives on why these things occur.

And I am not a "Jew hater," nor am I an "Arab hater." 

I call BS.

Just now, Jingthing said:

I call BS.

Those are my initials! Bill Smart! 😁

59 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Links about Israeli settlers wanting to occupy Gaza have been posted here.

I do understand that there are many who hate Jews, for what reason, I didn't know. I had some Jewish friends growing up, and I spent some time with them and their families. There were Jews in my college, and some were friends. I never really gave much thought to what was happening in Israel and only in the past year or so began seeing and reading reports on what was going on there. Even then, I just assumed it was a dispute between two rivals who wanted control of the same land, but I never thought it would end up like this.

After seeing and reading what has happened over the past six months and reading in more detail about what has been happening over the past 75 years, and now seeing the vile, bitter, and insulting comments from the pro-(censored)s on this forum who are fixated on supporting the killing or driving all Palestinians out of what used to be their land, if these posters are anything like regular Israelis, I can understand why there are "hundreds of millions around the world" who hate Jews.

Oh gawd another one who reckons he had Jewish friends. 

Lies, a recurring theme. In Nov/Dec Hamas officials in Gaza said it was 70% destroyed, quickly taken up by Al Jazeera and spread widely. The following month the BBC and others said 50% destroyed or damaged. Now with actual evidence to hand we find out its 35%. 

 

Satellite images show 35% of Gaza’s buildings damaged or destroyed, UN says

Satellite images analyzed by the United Nations Satellite Centre show that 35% of the Gaza Strip’s buildings have been damaged or destroyed since the start of the war between Israel and Hamas.
In its assessment, the United Nations Satellite Centre, UNOSAT, used high-resolution satellite images collected on Feb. 29 and compared them with images taken before and after the start of the war.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/satellite-images-show-35-of-gazas-buildings-damaged-or-destroyed-un-says/

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Promoting Jew hatred. Jew haters always have an excuse.

 

And this type of (often intentional) fallacy does not work anymore.

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I call BS.

Your standard reply when you fall short! 

 

It doesnt take much emphasis to understand the crises this is for humanity, for the world citizens to grasp the reality of this tragic revenge on innocent people! 

 

It is not complicated to understand at all, but for some world politics is difficult to understand, and jump easily on cheap rhetoric just to be safe, and easy comes words to stop any further discussion. Aint much intellectual thow, but safe at the right places. 

 

Hypocrisy I say, doubled faced and double morality 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Your standard reply when you fall short! 

 

It doesnt take much emphasis to understand the crises this is for humanity, for the world citizens to grasp the reality of this tragic revenge on innocent people! 

 

It is not complicated to understand at all, bt fod some world politics is difficult to understand, and jump easily on cheap rhetoric just to be safe, and easy comes words to stop any further discussion. Aint much intellectual thow, but safe at the right places. 

 

Hypocrisy I say, doubled faced and double morality 

Biased 🐂💩.

28 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Lies, a recurring theme. In Nov/Dec Hamas officials in Gaza said it was 70% destroyed, quickly taken up by Al Jazeera and spread widely. The following month the BBC and others said 50% destroyed or damaged. Now with actual evidence to hand we find out its 35%. 

 

Satellite images show 35% of Gaza’s buildings damaged or destroyed, UN says

Satellite images analyzed by the United Nations Satellite Centre show that 35% of the Gaza Strip’s buildings have been damaged or destroyed since the start of the war between Israel and Hamas.
In its assessment, the United Nations Satellite Centre, UNOSAT, used high-resolution satellite images collected on Feb. 29 and compared them with images taken before and after the start of the war.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/satellite-images-show-35-of-gazas-buildings-damaged-or-destroyed-un-says/

 

The media reported at the time that 70% of homes, not buildings, had been destroyed:

 

Israel-Hamas war: 70% of Gaza homes destroyed in fighting, WSJ claims

The Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday that 70% of all Gaza homes and about half of all its buildings have been either damaged or destroyed due to Israeli airstrikes during its war with the Hamas terror organization. The report states that Gaza contained about 439,000 homes.

[...]

Around the time the report came out, N12 cited an estimate by aid organizations that it would take at least a year after the war to clear the rubble, and it would take approximately seven to ten years to rebuild destroyed houses, with the overall cost of restoring Gaza estimated at $3.5 billion.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-780086

 

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The media reported at the time that 70% of homes, not buildings, had been destroyed:

 

Israel-Hamas war: 70% of Gaza homes destroyed in fighting, WSJ claims

The Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday that 70% of all Gaza homes and about half of all its buildings have been either damaged or destroyed due to Israeli airstrikes during its war with the Hamas terror organization. The report states that Gaza contained about 439,000 homes.

[...]

Around the time the report came out, N12 cited an estimate by aid organizations that it would take at least a year after the war to clear the rubble, and it would take approximately seven to ten years to rebuild destroyed houses, with the overall cost of restoring Gaza estimated at $3.5 billion.

I know what the media reported and they were wrong. 

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Your standard reply when you fall short! 

 

It doesnt take much emphasis to understand the crises this is for humanity, for the world citizens to grasp the reality of this tragic revenge on innocent people! 

 

It is not complicated to understand at all, bt fod some world politics is difficult to understand, and jump easily on cheap rhetoric just to be safe, and easy comes words to stop any further discussion. Aint much intellectual thow, but safe at the right places. 

 

Hypocrisy I say, doubled faced and double morality 

Word salad gone wrong

3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Biased 🐂💩.

just take off your pink glasses, and look at the reality! You know deep inside you, you are wrong! 

The US to propose a cease fire at the UN.

 

 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

just take off your pink glasses, and look at the reality! You know deep inside you, you are wrong! 

That's the trouble and the point of my previous, long post. I don't think these people do know deep down inside of them that they are wrong. 🥹

Just now, Hummin said:

just take off your pink glasses, and look at the reality! You know deep inside you, you are wrong! 

I have read enough of your posts to realise that you patronise other posters, does that give you a superiority complex. 🥴

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

That's the trouble and the point of my previous, long post. I don't think these people do know deep down inside of them that they are wrong. 🥹

The difference is William we don't have to fabricate stories, and falsely accuse posters of saying something you made up. It is a very disingenuous way you try to make a point.

9 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

I have read enough of your posts to realise that you patronise other posters, does that give you a superiority complex. 🥴

No, doing what you perceive as patronizing other posters doesn't give me a superiority complex. However, reading your and a few others's posts on this forum does.

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

That's the trouble and the point of my previous, long post. I don't think these people do know deep down inside of them that they are wrong. 🥹

The common respons is negative loaded emotions when they have nothing left. Spineless week creatures.

13 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

I have read enough of your posts to realise that you patronise other posters, does that give you a superiority complex. 🥴

Im spot on on every target, but if you are biased which Im not, then you struggle. I have said before, if it was the other way around, then my emphasis would have been with the jews, but it is not the other way around. 

 

Thats why this is ironically biased of your side

46 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Your standard reply when you fall short! 

 

It doesnt take much emphasis to understand the crises this is for humanity, for the world citizens to grasp the reality of this tragic revenge on innocent people! 

 

It is not complicated to understand at all, but for some world politics is difficult to understand, and jump easily on cheap rhetoric just to be safe, and easy comes words to stop any further discussion. Aint much intellectual thow, but safe at the right places. 

 

Hypocrisy I say, doubled faced and double morality 

Garbage!

What I was responding to was a B.S. post that professed "understanding" of hating ALL Jewish people everywhere in the world because of their twisted one side narrative on the history of Israel, their one sided characterization of this current war, and because they have heard SOME Jewish and/or Israeli voices that are extremely right wing. Again I say, Jew haters always have excuses all through history. Their excuses just change with the times and national cultures.

If you can't take a clear stand on the moral wrong of Jew hatred UNCONDITIONALLY, then I doubt you or anyone else promoting Jew hatred has any moral leg to stand on whatsover.

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Garbage!

What I was responding to was a B.S. post that professed "understanding" of hating ALL Jewish people everywhere in the world because of their twisted one side narrative on the history of Israel, their own sided characterization of this current war, and because they have heard SOME Jewish and/or Israeli voices that are extremely right wing. Again I say, Jew haters always have excuses all through history.

If you can't take a clear stand on the moral wrong of Jew hatred UNCONDITIONALLY, then I doubt you have a moral leg to stand on.

 

Nobody here has ever professed to hating Jews. The legitimate hate is against Netanyahu and his war cabinet for both expressing islamophobic sentiment and conducting genocidal revenge attacks.

 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im spot on on every target, but if you are biased which Im not, then you struggle. I have said before, if it was the other way around, then my emphasis would have been with the jews, but it is not the other way around. 

 

Thats why this is ironically biased of your side

You insert words into your posts that are simply not true, why can't you be honest and truthful instead of trying to point score all the time. Your latest attempt was using the word "revenge" referring to the Israelis in Gaza, the Israelis would have to be pretty stupid to send in ground troops when they have enough weapons to do the job without loss of lives to themselves, and more to the point you would have to be pretty stupid to believe that this is a "revenge" attack.