Who doesnt tip?

[FruitPudding]

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

This question is mainly do with expats ,older guys who retired ,not tourists or " 2 week millionaire" visitors to Asia but you can answer if you want, but obviously if your a tourist you would be tipping everyone from the bellboy to the hotel reception 

 

Who tips the receptionist??

 

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

The problem of course is ,if you are a expat and you go to the same Caffe or bar must times and you don't tip then what's the service going to be like?

Is that a problem?

 

Service doesn't change.

 

If you don't tip, how will service change?

 

You think they'll walk in slow motion with your drink? Spit in your food? 

 

What's gonna happen if you don't tip?

 

I have never experience better service when tipping anyway. They just take the money. 

 

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

Who wouldn't you tip that others do?

For example if you have the delivery guy over bringing food you tip him?

 

Furniture removals?

Cleaners?

Barber?

Massage?

Lazada delivery?

Mechanic

Phone repair?

Grab/bolt driver ?

 

I tip 20 baht for a decent haircut, 100 baht for a good massage.

 

Who tips for phone repair? Lol

 

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Do you tip far less now your an expat in Asia rather than a tourist?

 

I tip less now because "when in Rome"

 

Thais don't tip, so why should I?

 

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

Who either as a tourist or a expat doesn't tip and the reasons why 

 

 

Generally speaking, I don't pay more for things than what it costs, though I do follow the local culture (I always tipped in my home country).

 

Occasionally, I will be so happy with a service that I will feel compelled to tip, like a wonderful massage, for example 

[Expat68]

If the service is good, I tip. With the cashless society on the horizon, tipping could well become the thing of the past

[Real Name Hidden]

 

[Will B Good]

The worse the service the bigger the tip and the more heartfelt the the thanks with a loud, friendly the goodbye.......just to embarrass 

[Irish star]

30 b for Grab 

40 b for restaurants and Cheap Charlie’s Restaurant in Jomtien 

100 b for Oxygen, Dom , 3 Mermaid etc 

20 b Grab Taxi 

20b Starbucks or Amazon if not available 

100 b Taxi. Airport 

im a Yank former Bartender and Bellman 

[bunnydrops]

One place I go, I'm a regular. If they see me come in, they know what I will order, I don't have to stand in line. I go sit at a table outside, they bring my drink out to me. When I leave I clean up my own mess. Would they give me the same service if I didn't tip? Most likely. but I think they deserve one. What came first, the chicken or the egg?

[baansgr]

You lost me on great eateries like cheap charlies

[Thingamabob]

I always tip.

[roo860]

27 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

One place I go, I'm a regular. If they see me come in, they know what I will order, I don't have to stand in line. I go sit at a table outside, they bring my drink out to me. When I leave I clean up my own mess. Would they give me the same service if I didn't tip? Most likely. but I think they deserve one. What came first, the chicken or the egg?

McDonald's service is improving, excellent!

[Prubangboy]

I'm a 20 baht rounder-upper. A cappa with an extra shot is 95 baht, so call that 120. A grab cab to Central Mall is 105, so that's 120 again. Two cold ice tea drinks clocks in at about 130 baht, so 150 it is.

 

Grab delivery is a flat 50 baht. We tend to order from a fair ways away to get something special like a middle eastern mezz appetizer platter or vegan food from Good Souls. We appreciate the person who fights through all that traffic to bring it to us.

 

There's a small handful of restaurants in Nimman where we've been to 12+ times. Call that 100 baht tip per diner. We feel like we know them a bit, and it would feel weird to stiff them.

 

Massage (which I barely ever do) is 25% -or 50% tip if it's a woman over 40. Over 50? Maybe 100%.

 

I have a friend who's obnoxious and demanding of service staff in a restaurant. I'll always leave 200-500 baht to compensate them for his abusive stupidity. He always gives me grief about it, and then more grief when I explain why.

 

I have zero judgement towards people who don't tip, whether it's because they don't come from tipping cultures or just because they simply don't want to. In return, I don't want to hear any lectures if I give the waitress 20 baht every time she brings me a drink.

[bunnydrops]

2 minutes ago, roo860 said:

McDonald's service is improving, excellent!

I'm happy for you.

[georgegeorgia]

5 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

As I live rural, I tip quite a bit. Many locals try and fail at keeping their businesses going out here. If I find a mom-and-pop shop that I like I tip well. Chain outlets with tip boxes not so much.

Im thinking expats in those rural Isaan areas tip far less than say expats from touristy areas 

I could be wrong , 

[Felton Jarvis]

I always tip.  Usually 40 baht. These people are making substandard wages. I couldn't live with myself if I failed to tip them something.  They deserve it. If the waitress is old or ugly, I generally tip more.

[Bobthegimp]

10 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

But what are the reasons for tipping ?

Is it because you"d feel guilty if you didn't ?

Or because the "service" was higher than normal ?

Or you feel compelled?

 

 

 

My first jobs were in the restaurant industry and tipping became ingrained to me. 

 

Service has to be very bad for me to "stiff"  (not tip) the server.  That doesn't mean making mistakes, it usually means ignoring the customer and being lazy with their approach to service.  I've only felt that way once in recent memory. 

 

You mentioned Cheap Charlie's.  I tip 40 to 50 baht when I eat there and the servers are shocked and grateful for it. That small amount of money doesn't change either of our lives but it does show appreciation and respect for their job. Intent still matters here, and a much smaller tip goes a long way.  There's a whole mindset that goes with not leaving a tip, and I avoid people infected with that mindset like the plague. 

 

I don't feel compelled to tip like we are back home, where a 20 percent tip on a $150 bill isn't even acknowledged.  

 

 

[Pilot3Boz]

I always tip well on all services, restaurants, lawn care, pool guy, massages, caddies, parking folks… It just seems the least I can do to show appreciation of their services for me and my wife… 

[georgegeorgia]

42 minutes ago, Pilot3Boz said:

I always tip well on all services, restaurants, lawn care, pool guy, massages, caddies, parking folks… It just seems the least I can do to show appreciation of their services for me and my wife… 

You Sir are a fine  Gentleman .

[Startmeup]

Im not a tipper, its an American thing but I'll tip if I feel the person deserves a tip. Massage place I will drop 100 on a 300 bill because it's an older lady who does a great job. They should charge more than 300. If the service is good in a restaurant I will usually tip. Normally this is in a fancy place, could be 100-200 baht tip. Other times in a restaurant I'll leave the coins or a bit more, same with beers.

A bellboy never in my life. I can wheel my own bags but if you want to take them off me and roll them up to my room thats great. 
Needed to move a fridge a few weeks ago 300m and asked the neighbour if he can help with his Ranger.
Very helpful. Gave him 500 baht. He was chuffed dont think he expected anything. Barber costs 170, I leave 200, they do a good job. My room gets cleaned weekly, I leave 50 baht on the bed each week for her. It would be nice to think others do the same to bump up her income but I doubt it. I might start leaving more. Anyway the way I see it is it's enough for her to buy a noodle soup when she finishes work. Ive been finding im tipping more and more the longer im here

[oslooskar]

I don't tip my doctor or my dentist when I get my teeth cleaned and I don't tip cashiers when I buy groceries. However, I tip just about everyone else because having driven a taxi at one time in my life tips were a good part of my income and greatly appreciated. I remember in the early 1970s Australians would never tip because it was not a custom in Australia but they eventually learned to do it and became very good tippers. The French, on the other hand, could not be excused for their failure to tip because tipping was a common practice in France and they knew better. Also, I tipped in France, so it really ticked me off when they refused to reciprocate. Anyway, I tip my barber a hundred baht for a 120 baht haircut and just about everyone else, even jitney drivers.

[georgegeorgia]

2 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

I don't tip my doctor or my dentist when I get my teeth cleaned and I don't tip cashiers when I buy groceries. However, I tip just about everyone else because having driven a taxi at one time in my life tips were a good part of my income and greatly appreciated. I remember in the early 1970s Australians would never tip because it was not a custom in Australia but they eventually learned to do it and became very good tippers. The French, on the other hand, could not be excused for their failure to tip because tipping was a common practice in France and they knew better. Also, I tipped in France, so it really ticked me off when they refused to reciprocate. Anyway, I tip my barber a hundred baht for a 120 baht haircut and just about everyone else, even jitney drivers.

So your in the Philippines?

Philippines has a tipping culture doesn't it ?

[Skeptic7]

I always tip. All restaurants and food/grocery delivery. Taxis. Even the guy(s) working on my vehicle and even sometimes gals at a the pump station. Petrol...NOT bar❗Tho I would & have tipped there too.🤣 Tip the condo office staff and security guys every New Year and Songkran. Maintenance guys for fixits. Furniture delivery and assembly. Even tip at Subway Sandwiches and my Amazon black coffee to-go. If there's a tip box...I make some rattle with some coin. 

[Asquith Production]

I only tip at the places I use regularly I find that an extra 20 baht keeps everything ticking over nicely

[simon43]

23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Who don't you tip then ?

Everyone else....  I tip barbers because it's ingrained into my brain - my mum always gave me an extra sixpence to give to the local barber back in the UK.  I tip motodop riders because their charge is so low anyway.  Oh, when in Pattaya I always pay 20 baht for the baht bus because the 10 baht charge is just ridiculously small.

[oslooskar]

7 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

So your in the Philippines?

Philippines has a tipping culture doesn't it ?

No, I live here in Thailand. I was last in the Philippines in 2014 when I had to make a connecting flight there from San Francisco to Beijing.

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, simon43 said:

Oh, when in Pattaya I always pay 20 baht for the baht bus because the 10 baht charge is just ridiculously small.

Would that be the  guilt reason?

I'm have analysed what reason people tip

Great service, compelled , guilt , a benefit from it 

[georgegeorgia]

2 hours ago, Asquith Production said:

I only tip at the places I use regularly I find that an extra 20 baht keeps everything ticking over nicely

So you tip to receive a benefit from it 

And there is nothing wrong with that 

Others too because of feeling guilty or some are compelled ,eg the waitress tells you please give me big tip etc before she brings the food out and she tells you she is relying on your tip etc etc  so you feel compelled you must tip ..at least something 

 

I had a limo (sedan)  driver taking me to the airport several years arranged by my business class ticket ,he tried to "compel' me to tip by telling me most people gave him $30

I couldn't afford that so gave him $5, he wasn't happy 

 

 

[Robert Paulson]

1 minute ago, georgegeorgia said:

So you tip to receive a benefit from it 

And there is nothing wrong with that 

Others too because of feeling guilty or some are compelled ,eg the waitress tells you please give me big tip etc before she brings the food out so you feel compelled you must tip 

People tip because societal pressure, aka herd behavior.

 

If nobody knew if we tipped or not, nobody would tip. If you deny this you’re delusional. People tip to make themselves feel better. They do t care about anyone else. They want to fit in. Our entire society is based on herd behavior. Covid taught us this without a doubt.

[georgegeorgia]

4 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

People tip because societal pressure, aka herd behavior.

 

If nobody knew if we tipped or not, nobody would tip. If you deny this you’re delusional. People tip to make themselves feel better. They do t care about anyone else. They want to fit in. Our entire society is based on herd behavior. Covid taught us this without a doubt.

Absolutely Robert these are reasons too.

And talking about tipping to fit in absolutely, it's expected to tip in a bar for a drink in Pattaya  ,it's expected! 

So you do it ,it's a herd mentality

 

But what about tipping to benefit.

Eg you work as front desk in my hotel , I give you a 100 baht tip ,thankyou for your kind service I say before you give me the key to my room.

I then expect extra service from you ,eg better room next time I book or extra water bottles or whatever 

[Robert Paulson]

11 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely Robert these are reasons too.

And talking about tipping to fit in absolutely, it's expected to tip in a bar for a drink in Pattaya  ,it's expected! 

So you do it ,it's a herd mentality

 

But what about tipping to benefit.

Eg you work as front desk in my hotel , I give you a 100 baht tip ,thankyou for your kind service I say before you give me the key to my room.

I then expect extra service from you ,eg better room next time I book or extra water bottles or whatever 

Yes. I would agree that exists too. Anything that is selfish motivation I agree with. When people start saying “I tip to help out the poor guy” I do not believe that. It’s that they would somehow feel bad for not helping, it has nothing to do with helping the guy… they could not care less if you got to the truth of the matter

[Yagoda]

I forgot to mention that in tipping bar staff:

 

Its 200B for unasked for throat

Its 200 B for a fake O

its 300B for a real O

 

I dont tip for Japanese style squealing.

 

Tjere are several guys here who tip on the same schedule, but deduct 25% for ladyboys.

[alien365]

21 hours ago, proton said:

Singers 100-200 baht, one of the biggest myths about Thais is that they do not tip, they tip millions to singers. Biggest one I saw on stage was 100k from one person.

Good point. I also tip singers around 100 baht. Even when doing karaoke in larger groups some Thais like to tip. I got just under ฿1,000 in tips last time I did karaoke, but normally I'll get about 200.