Thinking of buying Hard Disc storage - potential price increases/shortages

[patman30]

17 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

I think Samsung made a 60Tb drive but you would have to sell your souls, home and first born to buy it. Why would you actually need, as an individual, such a large drive? A business yes of course but for an individual it seems a bit excessive for normal day to day usage.

Please search before trying to correct me, and please do be specific
when you say drive do you mean HDD or SSD
either way Samsun has not produced a 60TB HDD or SSD
but as i stated SEAGATE produced a 60TB SAS SSD
which was more a test enterprise product than an actual product for the general market
with prices reported from $10k to $40k
and largest HDD actually available on the market right now is 24TB
Seagate just "released' a 30TB HDD but that is not readily available anywhere yet 

seriously dude, takes 2 seconds👇

[gargamon]

21 hours ago, john donson said:

what do you guys store on that? 

Porn

[BritManToo]

53 minutes ago, patman30 said:

or i could take the 17,000 it costs to buy a 2 bay synology lol
and build my own NAS at a fraction of the cost
or i can just access any of my networked machines i already have running 24/7 and view any files i want
i have over 100 HDDs spread across 6 rigs which run 24/7 (although currently scaling this down with higher capacity drives to save power)
"No need to even turn your computer on"...... what do you think your NAS is lol

I paid 7000bht for the Synology ds233j 2 bay Nas earlier this year. It uses 10W so it's left on 24/7, no need to conserve power.

[Robert Paulson]

I don’t even bother anymore. I’ve reached what I’ve termed carrying capacity. My data doesn’t grow from this size, stuff just gets deleted 

[patman30]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I paid 7000bht for the Synology ds233j 2 bay Nas earlier this year. It uses 10W so it's left on 24/7, no need to conserve power.

one hard drive will use ~10w when spinning
10w idle is easy to achieve on many machines
even at 7k i can build much cheaper
just an r-pi and power supply (you can see my DIY HDD PSU in my pic earlier in thread)
which would draw 3w idle and 6w at load (plus HDD watts)
i already have higher end machines running 24/7 (over 100 HDD across 6 rigs)
my old NAS drives are sat on a shelf as i no longer own a TV they are just used periodically for backup

 

[Photoguy21]

5 hours ago, patman30 said:

Please search before trying to correct me, and please do be specific
when you say drive do you mean HDD or SSD
either way Samsun has not produced a 60TB HDD or SSD
but as i stated SEAGATE produced a 60TB SAS SSD
which was more a test enterprise product than an actual product for the general market
with prices reported from $10k to $40k
and largest HDD actually available on the market right now is 24TB
Seagate just "released' a 30TB HDD but that is not readily available anywhere yet 

seriously dude, takes 2 seconds👇

A HDD would be a rack of drives for that size. Samsung produced a SSD and that was costing something in the range ot GBP 16,000. Yes it has. Probably never had buys so didnt continue but they did produce one. It still begs the question why would you want such a large drive. If, and only you know why, you need so much capacity a storage bank would be better instead of a single drive.

[patman30]

15 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

A HDD would be a rack of drives for that size. Samsung produced a SSD and that was costing something in the range ot GBP 16,000.

NO, Samsung did NOT produce a 60TB drive HDD or SSD
SEAGATE did
SEAGATE also have recently produced/announced a 30TB drive
24TB drives are already on the market
so NO, you would not need a rack of Drives for 60TB, but 2 or 3 HDD (if you can somehow manage to get a 30TB at this stage, but 24TB are available)
and Teamgroup also have a 2.5" 15TB SSD (SATA not NVME) on the market
so even for 60TB of SSD, again, NO you would not need a rack, but just 4 x 2.5" drives
find someone else to argue with or come correct.

[Photoguy21]

1 minute ago, patman30 said:

NO, Samsung did NOT produce a 60TB drive HDD or SSD
SEAGATE did
SEAGATE also have recently produced/announced a 30TB drive
24TB drives are already on the market
so NO, you would not need a rack of Drives for 60TB, but 2 or 3 HDD (if you can somehow manage to get a 30TB at this stage, but 24TB are available)
and Teamgroup also have a 2.5" 15TB SSD (SATA not NVME) on the market
so even for 60TB of SSD, again, NO you would not need a rack, but just 4 x 2.5" drives
find someone else to argue with or come correct.

Probably a silly question but why would you want such a big drive? Ok, so you are going to put VDO's on it but you can get a lot on a 2Tb drive. I know I have several hundred on one, all of which is bought online and saved to my external drive.

[patman30]

15 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Probably a silly question but why would you want such a big drive? Ok, so you are going to put VDO's on it but you can get a lot on a 2Tb drive. I know I have several hundred on one, all of which is bought online and saved to my external drive.

who said i wanted a 60TB drive?
and yes i do have a LOT of storage 
but WTF has that got to do with you, what i do with my machines?
and no i don't use them to store videos, or music or pictures or any media, and not mining crypto
sorry not sorry, your previous messages invoke such a reply.
if you were less argumentative while also being wrong,
maybe i would have dropped you a hint as to why i have so much hardware running 24/7

[Photoguy21]

18 hours ago, patman30 said:

who said i wanted a 60TB drive?
and yes i do have a LOT of storage 
but WTF has that got to do with you, what i do with my machines?
and no i don't use them to store videos, or music or pictures or any media, and not mining crypto
sorry not sorry, your previous messages invoke such a reply.
if you were less argumentative while also being wrong,
maybe i would have dropped you a hint as to why i have so much hardware running 24/7

No one cares what you do. If you dont like answers dont ask questions. Stop being a moron.

[Ben Zioner]

On 4/25/2024 at 9:22 AM, patman30 said:

This is likely to only affect newer high capacity drives with new tech
ones that most people will have no desire for
you can get 8TB NVME drives, which are fine for most people
and you can get board with 5x M2 slots, allowing up to 40TB NVME SSD today
what will always matter is price per TB, and mostly only businesses will justify paying a premium per TB

One of my rigs

You need this for Internet browsing?

[patman30]

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

No one cares what you do. If you dont like answers dont ask questions. Stop being a moron.

Then why did you even ask?
and you did not provide answers, you provided false arguments.
you got everything wrong and you call me the moron lol
another one on the ignore list
 

 

1 hour ago, Ben Zioner said:

You need this for Internet browsing?

yeh, that is all computers are good for.

[Ben Zioner]

7 minutes ago, patman30 said:

Then why did you even ask?
and you did not provide answers, you provided false arguments.
you got everything wrong and you call me the moron lol
another one on the ignore list
 

 

yeh, that is all computers are good for.

How many tabs can you open?

[patman30]

2 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

How many tabs can you open?

More than a browser displays
but you do not need storage for that
CPU and RAM are what matters there
i run low power 7900 CPUs and just 32GB RAM each rig (5600-6000)