Labour Vows to Halt Rwanda Deportations: A Shift in Immigration Policy

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Labour leader Keir Starmer has declared that his party would immediately cease all deportation flights to Rwanda upon winning the general election. This announcement comes amidst escalating debates surrounding the Tory scheme for processing asylum seekers and increasing concerns over illegal immigration.

 

Speaking passionately in Deal, Starmer underscored his commitment to scrapping the Rwanda deportation scheme entirely, labeling it as both a "gimmick" and a "waste of money." He emphasized the need for a more robust approach to border security, advocating for the establishment of a border security command to replace the controversial deportation program.

 

The decision to halt deportation flights to Rwanda has sparked polarized reactions, with Home Secretary James Cleverly dismissing Labour's stance as "comic" and "ridiculous." Cleverly defended the government's initiative, arguing that it was still in its early stages and had the potential to yield positive results in addressing illegal migration.

 

Despite criticism from the Conservatives, Starmer remained resolute in his stance, refusing to engage in the rhetoric of "stopping the boats" and instead focusing on the need to dismantle criminal smuggling networks. He outlined Labour's plan to allocate £75 million towards funding specialist officer roles to combat people-smuggling, leveraging new counter-terrorism powers to bolster border protection.

 

Furthermore, Starmer condemned the current asylum system as "broken" and pledged to overhaul it, emphasizing the importance of decisive leadership in tackling the nation's pressing challenges. He criticized the prevailing culture of "gesture politics" in Westminster, advocating for a shift towards practical action that drives meaningful progress.

 

In a broader context, Starmer positioned himself as a champion of pragmatic governance, vowing to steer clear of empty rhetoric and prioritize tangible solutions. Since assuming leadership of the Labour Party, he has sought to distance himself from the grandstanding of the past, opting instead for a measured approach grounded in substantive policy proposals.

 

Credit: The Guardian 2024-05-13

 

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[RichardColeman]

Ah, Starmer wanting to introduce Biden style immigration for more voters

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

Furthermore, Starmer condemned the current asylum system as "broken" and pledged to overhaul it,

That's the real issue... immigration officers should wear ear protection and not hear the word "Asylum" 

put them back on whatever mode of transport they used and send them back.

[herfiehandbag]

Nothing will really change. Starmer will stand on a beach and blether, the people smuggling gangs (highly lucrative) will ignore him, the lawyers advocating for the migrants (highly lucrative) will ignore him, the French will ignore him (unless they can screw even more money out of the UK for their ineffective policing activity).

 

It is fascinating that there does seem to be an almost inexhaustible supply of big rubber dinghies and outboard motors. Bizarrely, I read somewhere that when they reach the UK they are seized, auctioned off cheaply, shipped back across the Channel and used again!

[Chomper Higgot]

Makes absolute sense.

 

The failed tory Asylum seeker exchange program has already cost UK tax payers hundreds of £millions while achieving nothing beyond building homes for Rwandans.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Nothing will really change. Starmer will stand on a beach and blether, the people smuggling gangs (highly lucrative) will ignore him, the lawyers advocating for the migrants (highly lucrative) will ignore him, the French will ignore him (unless they can screw even more money out of the UK for their ineffective policing activity).

 

It is fascinating that there does seem to be an almost inexhaustible supply of big rubber dinghies and outboard motors. Bizarrely, I read somewhere that when they reach the UK they are seized, auctioned off cheaply, shipped back across the Channel and used again!

You ‘read somewhere’.

 

I’m sure you did, but I doubt you want to tell us where.

[JonnyF]

Another example of how a Labour government will continue to put the interests of often illegal immigrants ahead of the interests of hard working, law abiding, British people - should they be elected.

 

One can only hope that the British people wake up before the election is called. If they don't, I'm afraid to say they will deserve what they get. 

 

 

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You ‘read somewhere’.

 

I’m sure you did, but I doubt you want to tell us where.

I did read it somewhere, in the last couple of weeks, and no I didn't record who wrote it or where.

 

Perhaps I have a different approach to discussions than you. I neither have a photographic memory nor a STASI like operation to record who said what, when and where, to use to crush and bully into silence anyone who dares to step beyond the bounds of what you have ordained as appropriate political or social opinions.

 

Mind you neither do I have the interest or energy to ceaselessly patrol these forums looking for fights as you clearly do! As I said, a different approach!

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Another example of how a Labour government will continue to put the interests of often illegal immigrants ahead of the interests of hard working, law abiding, British people - should they be elected.

 

One can only hope that the British people wake up before the election is called. If they don't, I'm afraid to say they will deserve what they get. 

 

 

 

 

What by dealing with the problem rather than engaging in performative cruelty?

 

Or by not pouring hundreds of £millions of hard earned UK tax payers’ money into Rwanda?

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

I did read it somewhere, in the last couple of weeks, and no I didn't record who wrote it or where.

 

Perhaps I have a different approach to discussions than you. I neither have a photographic memory nor a STASI like operation to record who said what, when and where, to use to crush and bully into silence anyone who dares to step beyond the bounds of what you have ordained as appropriate political or social opinions.

 

Mind you neither do I have the interest or energy to ceaselessly patrol these forums looking for fights as you clearly do! As I said, a different approach!

Your approach is clear.

 

Make unsubstantiated claims then get all personal against anyone who calls them out.

 

 

[Red Forever]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Another example of how a Labour government will continue to put the interests of often illegal immigrants ahead of the interests of hard working, law abiding, British people - should they be elected.

 

One can only hope that the British people wake up before the election is called. If they don't, I'm afraid to say they will deserve what they get. 

 

 

 

 

Oh I think the British people have woken up. Dumping the Tories in local any mayoral elections was just the beginning.

The dwindling remainder of right wing nutters can look forward to more hurt in the coming months.

 

[herfiehandbag]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Your approach is clear.

 

Make unsubstantiated claims then get all personal against anyone who calls them out.

 

 

Oh belt up you silly boorish self appointed political thug!

 

You are a bully, who attempts to monopolise and control these forums, and any views expressed on them.

[JonnyF]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What by dealing with the problem rather than engaging in performative cruelty?

 

Or by not pouring hundreds of £millions of hard earned UK tax payers’ money into Rwanda?

 

 

 

Allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain instead of deporting them is not "dealing with the problem", neither is it an act of kindness.

 

It is causing damage to Britain and the British people. 

[scottiejohn]

29 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

It is fascinating that there does seem to be an almost inexhaustible supply of big rubber dinghies and outboard motors. Bizarrely, I read somewhere that when they reach the UK they are seized, auctioned off cheaply, shipped back across the Channel and used again!

Wrong they are currently held in storage while they decide what to do!

Government admits plan for charities to take boats used by asylum seekers yet to start despite pledge made in 2020 (kentonline.co.uk)

Edited May 13 by scottiejohn

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

Labour leader Keir Starmer has declared that his party would immediately cease all deportation flights to Rwanda upon winning the general election. This announcement comes amidst escalating debates surrounding the Tory scheme for processing asylum seekers and increasing concerns over illegal immigration.

He might have just lost the next election ( hopefully ).

[stoner]

there is no solution to this horrible mess unless the resources on this planet are more evenly distributed. then again apple and microsoft are worth almost 6 trillion dollars. 

[newbee2022]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Labour leader Keir Starmer has declared that his party would immediately cease all deportation flights to Rwanda upon winning the general election. This announcement comes amidst escalating debates surrounding the Tory scheme for processing asylum seekers and increasing concerns over illegal immigration.

 

Speaking passionately in Deal, Starmer underscored his commitment to scrapping the Rwanda deportation scheme entirely, labeling it as both a "gimmick" and a "waste of money." He emphasized the need for a more robust approach to border security, advocating for the establishment of a border security command to replace the controversial deportation program.

 

The decision to halt deportation flights to Rwanda has sparked polarized reactions, with Home Secretary James Cleverly dismissing Labour's stance as "comic" and "ridiculous." Cleverly defended the government's initiative, arguing that it was still in its early stages and had the potential to yield positive results in addressing illegal migration.

 

Despite criticism from the Conservatives, Starmer remained resolute in his stance, refusing to engage in the rhetoric of "stopping the boats" and instead focusing on the need to dismantle criminal smuggling networks. He outlined Labour's plan to allocate £75 million towards funding specialist officer roles to combat people-smuggling, leveraging new counter-terrorism powers to bolster border protection.

 

Furthermore, Starmer condemned the current asylum system as "broken" and pledged to overhaul it, emphasizing the importance of decisive leadership in tackling the nation's pressing challenges. He criticized the prevailing culture of "gesture politics" in Westminster, advocating for a shift towards practical action that drives meaningful progress.

 

In a broader context, Starmer positioned himself as a champion of pragmatic governance, vowing to steer clear of empty rhetoric and prioritize tangible solutions. Since assuming leadership of the Labour Party, he has sought to distance himself from the grandstanding of the past, opting instead for a measured approach grounded in substantive policy proposals.

 

Credit: The Guardian 2024-05-13

 

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I rely on Labour to win next election. Eventually stop that Sunak nonsense🙏

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain instead of deporting them is not "dealing with the problem", neither is it an act of kindness.

 

It is causing damage to Britain and the British people. 

That being the case, why did the current Government defund the asylum clearance system and thereby fail to remove bogus asylum seekers?

 

Nobody objects to bogus asylum seekers being deported.

 

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2022/01/24/savage-cuts-to-enforcement-staff-show-how-government-gets-things-backwards

[Neeranam]

As a legal immigrant in Thailand, who has jumped many hurdles, I feel strongly that any illegal immigrant should be sent home immediately, or to a hellhole like Rwanda. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Oh belt up you silly boorish self appointed political thug!

 

You are a bully, who attempts to monopolise and control these forums, and any views expressed on them.

As if to prove my point.

[RayC]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain instead of deporting them is not "dealing with the problem", neither is it an act of kindness.

 

It is causing damage to Britain and the British people. 

 

If Labour initiatives to reduce the number of boats landing are successful, the question of deporting those who do arrive becomes less of an issue.

[JonnyF]

36 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

If Labour initiatives to reduce the number of boats landing are successful, the question of deporting those who do arrive becomes less of an issue.

 

Not for the Rwandans that are already here.

 

Given their reluctance to deport them, what makes you believe they will be tough on future illegals? Seems to me they are more than happy for anyone to come and stay here. But then, they won't be living in Islington so it's not their problem...

[john donson]

maybe put 'them' on old army beds... lots of them in a room and 3 basic meals a day instead of hotel room at the tax payer's expense...

[Martin71]

1 minute ago, john donson said:

maybe put 'them' on old army beds... lots of them in a room and 3 basic meals a day instead of hotel room at the tax payer's expense...

 

They did that before.. one was Penally Army Camp .. the smashed the place up and demonstrated because they said the conditions were to bad ( I stayed there a fair bit.. not great but livable).... which is a bit rich considering most of them say they are fleeing persecution and fear of being killed... If I had to put up with  rough conditions but knew I would not be kidnapped or killed in the middle of the night I would be happy....

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, stoner said:

there is no solution to this horrible mess unless the resources on this planet are more evenly distributed. then again apple and microsoft are worth almost 6 trillion dollars. 

I agree, but I also know that it will not happen. Humans are a greedy and vile species.

IMO all those illegal immigrants want to live the same life as they see on tv shows, and they are not wanting to make it a better world.