Danderman123 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 6 hours ago, bob smith said: I want clarification. Is the white shirted Brit in ICU or did he get up and walk away? there are conflicting reports.. But yeah, what a total shambles. but of course TIT, I expect nothing else. bob. He walked back to his hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: He walked back to his hotel. And hopefully a lesson learned! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: And hopefully a lesson learned! what lesson would that be? bob. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 If you are scammed by a bar, the best approach is to never go there again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, bob smith said: what lesson would that be? bob. Don't get drunk and obnoxious in bars, or pick a fight with staff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Don't get drunk and obnoxious in bars, or pick a fight with staff. ... So predictable, I could have written your response for you word for word! Bob. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 13 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Unfortunately, nothing can happen unless someone makes a complaint. This is the law in Thailand. Looks like these thugs will walk, and we know what happens then... they will be free to hurt and probably kill someone else in the future. Just another night in Pattaya, sorry, fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbko Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Jiggo said: According to British press only one, if so the guy who's head was used as a football. So what's preventing the other one from filing charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyMac Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Danderman123 said: There are a couple of videos showing the White Shirt guy leaving the scene and walking back to his hotel. Blimey. Respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regyai Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 A kindly waft of Yaa Dom and t'was like it never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstevens Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 (edited) Is there any evidence that the three guys are actually British? There seems to a notion that if there is a fight in soi 6, it's always Brits. As far as I can tell, these three guys have not been identified, hence how can people be so sure about their supposed nationality? Edited May 28 by mstevens 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveMeAColdOne Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 14 hours ago, BigStar said: You thought wrong. Thai law defines prostitution and sex work differently, though extremely few posters are aware of it and so make fatuous claims constantly. Exchanging sex for money is quite legal, just as it is elsewhere. Out of pure curiosity, how does the law differentiate between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 19 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Unfortunately, nothing can happen unless someone makes a complaint. This is the law in Thailand. Looks like these thugs will walk, and we know what happens then... they will be free to hurt and probably kill someone else in the future. ...and pissed up mongers will be free to continue to welch on their bills for hand-shandies and rumpy-pumpy. Winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 19 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Unfortunately, nothing can happen unless someone makes a complaint. This is the law in Thailand. Looks like these thugs will walk, and we know what happens then... they will be free to hurt and probably kill someone else in the future. That seems like a load of baloney in the presence of so much video evidence. Would this be the case had one of them died? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 5/28/2024 at 10:07 AM, webfact said: Despite the severity of the assault, Pattaya police have not detained the security guards involved. Sergeant Major Arthon of the Pattaya City Police Station explained, “We can only pursue a case if a complaint is filed. So if the victim (any victim) passes away (God forbid) the Thai Police are still powerless to charge the assailant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 20 minutes ago, Derek B said: So if the victim (any victim) passes away (God forbid) the Thai Police are still powerless to charge the assailant? Is that a hypothetical question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 8 hours ago, GiveMeAColdOne said: Out of pure curiosity, how does the law differentiate between the two? I'm not getting into that again, mainly because posters ignorantly bring up the old law, bring up sources based on the old law, or they absolutely love to argue with the Thai law itself based on their definition. @bert bloggsused to devote some effort explaining the way Thai law narrowly defines prostitution, and even he gave up as well. He hasn't logged in a long while; I fear, as he seemed a good man, he may have succumbed to his health issues. The police, BTW, don't always strictly follow the law (surprise!) in making mass sweeps that are actually based on "suspicion" and the desire to present a clean image for the better class of tourists TAT is forever trying to attract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 23 hours ago, Pattaya57 said: Yes it does. White shirt is walking backwards with guard rushing towards him. White shirt trys to push him away and guard clocks him with the first punch thrown It seems you haven't seen all the CCTV and have outrun the evidence again. 4 hours ago, jacko45k said: You may have missed one of the video clips where security initially arrived, and it appeared one of the customers was pushing and a security guy got hit in the nose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 White shirt is in hiding, and does not want to be named because he does not want his mates back home to see he wears a handbag🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 If Thais go to your country, do you expect them to adapt to the local culture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 57 minutes ago, Neeranam said: If Thais go to your country, do you expect them to adapt to the local culture? Not if they're just on holiday, as they are unlikely to have any idea what the local culture is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just now, brewsterbudgen said: Not if they're just on holiday, as they are unlikely to have any idea what the local culture is! True, but most of the bashers on this thread are not tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just now, brewsterbudgen said: Not if they're just on holiday, as they are unlikely to have any idea what the local culture is! ...but do you expect western tourists to adapt to thai culture when here? bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 5/28/2024 at 10:07 AM, webfact said: “We can only pursue a case if a complaint is filed. Efforts to locate the victims are ongoing, and CCTV footage is being reviewed to ascertain their whereabouts.” In civilized countries, the justice system work to protect victim who may actually be afraid to file charges in fear of retribution and future attacks. So in civilized countries, the state prosecutors file the criminal charges for criminal assault and battery. Here? If you're afraid someone may kill you if you file charges, its a pretty scary incentive not to act. I wonder if they have had a friendly Thai advise them not to file charges. Perhaps given an offer they can't refuse. Like, "nothing bad will happen to you if you just drop it and go away." 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 34 minutes ago, bob smith said: ...but do you expect western tourists to adapt to thai culture when here? bob. "Here" meaning Pattaya? Pattaya's culture isn't exactly reflective of Thai culture, is it? If you mean Thailand as a whole, then other than taking their shoes off before entering temple, not really. They're on holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakalwe Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Seppius said: White shirt is in hiding, and does not want to be named because he does not want his mates back home to see he wears a handbag🤣 It is a satchel. Indiana Jones had a satchel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Despite the severity of the assault, Pattaya police have not detained the security guards involved. Sergeant Major Arthon of the Pattaya City Police Station explained, “We can only pursue a case if a complaint is filed. If both victims went away and died from their injuries, there will be no complaints from them and no need to detain the security guards. It seems police are aware the Helicopter Bar is owned by British nationals. So why haven't they investigated the ownership structure and arrested the owners and their Thai nominees for flouting the foreign business law? Police in resort areas have been ordered to crack down on businesses illegally controlled by foreigners. I guess we know the answer to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 minutes ago, Dogmatix said: Despite the severity of the assault, Pattaya police have not detained the security guards involved. Sergeant Major Arthon of the Pattaya City Police Station explained, “We can only pursue a case if a complaint is filed. If both victims went away and died from their injuries, there will be no complaints from them and no need to detain the security guards. It seems police are aware the Helicopter Bar is owned by British nationals. So why haven't they investigated the ownership structure and arrested the owners and their Thai nominees for flouting the foreign business law? Police in resort areas have been ordered to crack down on businesses illegally controlled by foreigners. I guess we know the answer to that one. Because the British owner's wife is very well-connected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 minutes ago, Seppius said: Because the British owner's wife is very well-connected I assue you are talking about Bryan ? Nightwish group do not list Helicoptor bar on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Joe Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 30 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: I assue you are talking about Bryan ? Nightwish group do not list Helicoptor bar on their website. The Helicopter Bar says on their Facebook and Instagram pages that they are an "Independent" bar. The bar posted about the incident on their Facebook page earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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