Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[shdmn]

13 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Most of America would do the same thing. Convicted felon Trump being a political prisoner is bs

 

ftfy

Edited June 1 by shdmn

[riclag]

11 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Most of America would do the same thing. Trump being a political prisoner is bs

Your opinion .

The smile was the issue ,it was creepy sinister , behavior.

 

[Roo Island]

11 minutes ago, riclag said:

Your opinion .

The smile was the issue ,it was creepy sinister , behavior.

 

Like Trump has never done that? Come on....tit for tat.

 

https://www.gettyimages.de/fotos/donald-trump-funny-face

 

Edited June 1 by Roo Island

[riclag]

54 minutes ago, riclag said:

biden is asked about Trumps comment of being a political prisoner as he walks away from the podium, stops , turns & grins.

 

photo from the source
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-mocked-disturbing-smile-after-ignoring-question-about-trump-being-political-prisoner

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-mocked-disturbing-smile-after-ignoring-question-about-trump-being-political-prisoner

That smile , says it all! Mission not  accomplished Joe! Many see the trial 

through that smile!

 

 

2022 to the  G7

“We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he — under legitimate efforts of our Constitution — does not become the next president again,” Biden said.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3728174-biden-suggests-trump-will-not-take-power-again-if-he-runs-in-2024/

 

 

[riclag]

Long time Trump hater gives 
 

The seal of disapproval  !

 

 

Gop Senator Romney scorches  bragg political decision in Trump case:

 

 “Political Malpractice”

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/romney-bragg-political-decision-trump-case-malpractice

 

[Danderman123]

31 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

Long time Trump hater gives 
 

The seal of disapproval  !

 

 

Gop Senator Romney scorches  bragg political decision in Trump case:

 

 “Political Malpractice”

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/romney-bragg-political-decision-trump-case-malpractice

 

Do you ever listen to Mitt Romney?

[Gecko123]

There have been scores of elected officials given prison sentences for criminal activity. The President of the US should not enjoy special consideration; fear of political polarization or violence should not factor into the sentencing decision.

[Walker88]

Here's a couple of very simple questions that even those who favor the convicted felon should be able to answer:

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---whether one candidate tried to subvert the will of the people and stop the certification of a free and fair election?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why one candidate took highly classified documents to his country club, without authorization, that could jeopardize US national security and the identities of foreign clandestine intelligence assets and operations? I ask "why" because clearly he did take the documents. That is not in any dispute, not even by him. Also, why did he subsequently LIE about returning all of the documents? Do the American people have a right to know what he intended to do with these thousands of highly classified documents that have absolutely nothing to do with running a country club?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he pressured the Georgia SecState to "just find me...11,780 votes" and---per the indictment---violate RICO statutes?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he called supporters to DC for 6 January 2021, Tweeting "It'll be WILD!", and then why did he tell them to "march to the Capitol" and "fight like hell", when all that was happening at the Capitol that day was the pro forma certification of the election 50 States and territories had already certified as his loss?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he sat idle in the Oval Office for 187 minutes, while the violence that destroyed Capitol property and injured 140 police officers was happening live on TV around the world as he himself watched, but he refused to call out the DC National Guard, despite the President having sole authority to do so (the Speaker lacks that authority)?

 

He claims "I'm the most innocent man in the world...totally innocent" and "Nobody is more innocent than me". Since he has been indicted for acts that suggest otherwise, should he not only WANT, but be required---as any other American citizen would be required---to prove his innocence through the legal system, and BEFORE the people vote?

 

Or do his supporters believe the Founding Fathers of the United States of America were wrong and that some people are above the law and totally immune? Do his supporters believe the United States should have its own lese majeste laws where not only is its leader infallible, but no criticism, much less a criminal indictment, should be allowed?

 

Pretty easy questions. I await answers from his supporters.

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you ever listen to Mitt Romney?

As one of (only) 7 Republican Senators who voted for conviction in the Jan6 impeachment proceedings against Trump, I think Mitt Romney deserves a reasonable listening.

[HappyExpat57]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Here's a couple of very simple questions that even those who favor the convicted felon should be able to answer:

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---whether one candidate tried to subvert the will of the people and stop the certification of a free and fair election?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why one candidate took highly classified documents to his country club, without authorization, that could jeopardize US national security and the identities of foreign clandestine intelligence assets and operations? I ask "why" because clearly he did take the documents. That is not in any dispute, not even by him. Also, why did he subsequently LIE about returning all of the documents? Do the American people have a right to know what he intended to do with these thousands of highly classified documents that have absolutely nothing to do with running a country club?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he pressured the Georgia SecState to "just find me...11,780 votes" and---per the indictment---violate RICO statutes?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he called supporters to DC for 6 January 2021, Tweeting "It'll be WILD!", and then why did he tell them to "march to the Capitol" and "fight like hell", when all that was happening at the Capitol that day was the pro forma certification of the election 50 States and territories had already certified as his loss?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he sat idle in the Oval Office for 187 minutes, while the violence that destroyed Capitol property and injured 140 police officers was happening live on TV around the world as he himself watched, but he refused to call out the DC National Guard, despite the President having sole authority to do so (the Speaker lacks that authority)?

 

He claims "I'm the most innocent man in the world...totally innocent" and "Nobody is more innocent than me". Since he has been indicted for acts that suggest otherwise, should he not only WANT, but be required---as any other American citizen would be required---to prove his innocence through the legal system, and BEFORE the people vote?

 

Or do his supporters believe the Founding Fathers of the United States of America were wrong and that some people are above the law and totally immune? Do his supporters believe the United States should have its own lese majeste laws where not only is its leader infallible, but no criticism, much less a criminal indictment, should be allowed?

 

Pretty easy questions. I await answers from his supporters.

 

Well put. It will be interesting to see how they deflect, deny, or obfuscate these points.

[jerrymahoney]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Here's a couple of very simple questions that even those who favor the convicted felon should be able to answer:

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---whether one candidate tried to subvert the will of the people and stop the certification of a free and fair election?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why one candidate took highly classified documents to his country club, without authorization, that could jeopardize US national security and the identities of foreign clandestine intelligence assets and operations? I ask "why" because clearly he did take the documents. That is not in any dispute, not even by him. Also, why did he subsequently LIE about returning all of the documents? Do the American people have a right to know what he intended to do with these thousands of highly classified documents that have absolutely nothing to do with running a country club?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he pressured the Georgia SecState to "just find me...11,780 votes" and---per the indictment---violate RICO statutes?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he called supporters to DC for 6 January 2021, Tweeting "It'll be WILD!", and then why did he tell them to "march to the Capitol" and "fight like hell", when all that was happening at the Capitol that day was the pro forma certification of the election 50 States and territories had already certified as his loss?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he sat idle in the Oval Office for 187 minutes, while the violence that destroyed Capitol property and injured 140 police officers was happening live on TV around the world as he himself watched, but he refused to call out the DC National Guard, despite the President having sole authority to do so (the Speaker lacks that authority)?

 

He claims "I'm the most innocent man in the world...totally innocent" and "Nobody is more innocent than me". Since he has been indicted for acts that suggest otherwise, should he not only WANT, but be required---as any other American citizen would be required---to prove his innocence through the legal system, and BEFORE the people vote?

 

Or do his supporters believe the Founding Fathers of the United States of America were wrong and that some people are above the law and totally immune? Do his supporters believe the United States should have its own lese majeste laws where not only is its leader infallible, but no criticism, much less a criminal indictment, should be allowed?

 

Pretty easy questions. I await answers from his supporters.

If your questions are 'Does the voting public have a LEGAL right to know?', the answer is NO.

[Thailand]

So there are people in America who still want a convicted felon, rapist and all around conman to be President of the USA?

Will somebody please explain that to me in the way they have explained it to their children.

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, Thailand said:

So there are people in America who still want a convicted felon, rapist and all around conman to be President of the USA?

Will somebody please explain that to me in the way they have explained it to their children.

Absolutely, even more every day. 70 million. 

 

Since you want reasons dumbed down for your consideration (5 year old level, I reckon) I would bet you arent American though so your opinion, like the opinion of blatant American racists and antisemites (which are heavily represented in the TDS  movement and their supporters here) isnt relevant to me about anyhting. So I will let someone else baby talk you. 

[herfiehandbag]

19 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Thank you. This is a very liberal board; common sense and stable, reasoned debate are often lost here. Many legal scholars decry this farce, and not one thinks it will not be thrown out on appeal. The facts are:

 

 

Were those the same oft quoted but never identified legal scholars that Mr Trump spent so much time assuring us had stated that the case would come to nothing?

 

I felt that perhaps we should know...

[HappyExpat57]

17 minutes ago, Thailand said:

So there are people in America who still want a convicted felon, rapist and all around conman to be President of the USA?

Will somebody please explain that to me in the way they have explained it to their children.

It's because they are hateful people with dark hearts. They hate people who are different from them. They hate people who don't belong to the same Christian Nationalist cult as them. Their convicted felon master is one of the most hateful people of all, and they like how he has made it popular to trade in their white robes for red hats.

 

These hateful people are calling for the death of the jurors who convicted their messiah. These hateful people are spoiled children who make these threats because they don't like the outcome of the trial.

 

Bottom line, who else but hateful people would even consider electing a convicted felon/known fraudster/adjudicated sex offender/adulterer to represent the US?

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, candide said:

The deep state is so powerful that it convinced Trump to commit crimes! 😀

At last, a conspiracy theory so plausible that I can get on board with it!

[KhunLA]

33 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Here's a couple of very simple questions that even those who favor the convicted felon should be able to answer:

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---whether one candidate tried to subvert the will of the people and stop the certification of a free and fair election?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why one candidate took highly classified documents to his country club, without authorization, that could jeopardize US national security and the identities of foreign clandestine intelligence assets and operations? I ask "why" because clearly he did take the documents. That is not in any dispute, not even by him. Also, why did he subsequently LIE about returning all of the documents? Do the American people have a right to know what he intended to do with these thousands of highly classified documents that have absolutely nothing to do with running a country club?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he pressured the Georgia SecState to "just find me...11,780 votes" and---per the indictment---violate RICO statutes?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he called supporters to DC for 6 January 2021, Tweeting "It'll be WILD!", and then why did he tell them to "march to the Capitol" and "fight like hell", when all that was happening at the Capitol that day was the pro forma certification of the election 50 States and territories had already certified as his loss?

 

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he sat idle in the Oval Office for 187 minutes, while the violence that destroyed Capitol property and injured 140 police officers was happening live on TV around the world as he himself watched, but he refused to call out the DC National Guard, despite the President having sole authority to do so (the Speaker lacks that authority)?

 

He claims "I'm the most innocent man in the world...totally innocent" and "Nobody is more innocent than me". Since he has been indicted for acts that suggest otherwise, should he not only WANT, but be required---as any other American citizen would be required---to prove his innocence through the legal system, and BEFORE the people vote?

 

Or do his supporters believe the Founding Fathers of the United States of America were wrong and that some people are above the law and totally immune? Do his supporters believe the United States should have its own lese majeste laws where not only is its leader infallible, but no criticism, much less a criminal indictment, should be allowed?

 

Pretty easy questions. I await answers from his supporters.

I think before people vote, a list of candidates who have not done any of the listed 'infractions' should be available to the voters.

 

List would probably look something like this ...

 

Honest, law abiding candidates to vote for:

1.

... End of list

[Yagoda]

7 hours ago, candide said:

Yet I am able to prove you wrong. That's not a compliment for you! 

Short of argument again?

 

I have an international experience so I am not without any such knowledge. Anyway  my life is not a thread topic.

"An International Experience". Yeah, I have those too every time I go to Nana, but that doesnt qualify me to opine on a Thai language message Board about Thai politics.

 

But hey, go back into your own history and study the Dreyfus trial. Good analogy to Trumps case.

[herfiehandbag]

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

OK, well thats fine. Your first language isnt English and you have no understanding of Anglo Saxon jurisprudence or how American politics work or the issues involved and you dont live in a place like Mar a Largo so your opinion as to anyhting in this thread is suspect.

Mar a Lago is such a fine old Anglo Saxon name don't you think? 🧐 

 

In fact, whilst we are on the subject of Anglo Saxon names, - no I won't go there!
 

Edited June 2 by herfiehandbag

[Chomper Higgot]

35 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

As one of (only) 7 Republican Senators who voted for conviction in the Jan6 impeachment proceedings against Trump, I think Mitt Romney deserves a reasonable listening.

We could say the same of Lindsey Graham, a vociferous opponent of Trump who turned on a dime to become one of his most ardent lickspittles.

 

The Republicans , former claimants to being ‘the party of law and order, don’t have a moral compass between them.

 

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

Mar a Lago is such a fine old Anglo Saxon name don't you think? 😀

Spanish, innit? Whats your point?

[Chomper Higgot]

37 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

If your questions are 'Does the voting public have a LEGAL right to know?', the answer is NO.

That wasn’t the question.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 5/31/2024 at 7:50 AM, Yagoda said:

Anyone who supports the verdict in this farce of a case and doesnt acknowledge the fact that it will be reversed on appeal is an enemy to me and my family and my country.

 

 

38 pages and still my favorite post.

 

Don’t tread on the rattle snake folks, there’s real danger the ketchup might hit the wall.

[jerrymahoney]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That wasn’t the question.

That is still my answer.

[HappyExpat57]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Spoken by the man with the blatantly rascist avatar viciously denigrating Native Americans.

 

Its called projection.

No, it's called denial. Not even gonna start on YOUR avatar cuz it means nothing, just like your posts.

[earlinclaifornia]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/06/01/first-polls-after-trump-conviction-warning-signs-for-republican/?sh=3707ba3c64e6

I speak for Independent's that never would support Trump.

Edited June 2 by earlinclaifornia

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Spoken by the man with the blatantly rascist avatar viciously denigrating Native Americans.

 

Its called projection.

You got something against Tonto ... 

 

Hint:  Johnny Depp playing a fictitious movie character

 

Aside from that, you are forgetting you are on the 'Commonwealth' forum.   Anything & everything, not part of the commonwealth countries is always a negative.  

 

Especially; USA, RU, CH & TH of course

Edited June 2 by KhunLA

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

It sounds like you are copying @Yellowtail:

 

Demand to have the charges against Trump explained to you.

 

If nobody explains them, claim this means that Trump is innocent.

 

If somebody explains the charges, forget the next day, and demand that someone explain the charges to you.

 

If you think that is what I said, you possibly have learning difficulties or are a liar.  🤷‍♂️

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

That is still my answer.

Of course, answering the question you wish you had been asked. 

[jerrymahoney]

56 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Do the American people have a right to know---BEFORE they vote---why he pressured the Georgia SecState to "just find me...11,780 votes" and---per the indictment---violate RICO statutes?

Anything beyond the indictment itself, then NO.