Presidential debate is over, have your opinions changed ? What was your take ?

[HappyExpat57]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 Because he can't do it without using a teleprompter. He uses cards even when he meets with people in person one on one. 

The bottom line: This job is NOT one where you can depend on cheat sheets. You have to be able to make quick decisions that will have serious implications around the globe. That requires extreme mental acuity, and Joe doesn't have that any more. He was a great statesman in his time, but that time has passed. The other guy NEVER had it. He has a lizard brain that weighs everything for his personal benefit. I honestly think we're screwed unless someone sits Joe down and has a "come to Jesus" heart to heart with him.

[EVENKEEL]

12 hours ago, stoner said:

 

biden has had so many nights like that. it is nothing new. for some strange reason they are only now turning on him.

 

why ?

I've been wondering the same thing. I got a hunch they purposely didn't juice up Joe properly on purpose so he would fail at the debate.

 

I actually feel a bit bad for him, a bit.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

I've been wondering the same thing. I got a hunch they purposely didn't juice up Joe properly on purpose so he would fail at the debate.

 

I actually feel a bit bad for him, a bit.

 

so what's the play then ? its not all a coincidence. the timing of the debate as well. earliest debate in history. 

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

so what's the play then ? its not all a coincidence. the timing of the debate as well. earliest debate in history. 

That's really going to the dark place in the conspiracy world.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's really going to the dark place in the conspiracy world.

 

is it though ? it has been clear for quite some time about biden. yet the media and the entire party stood behind it all and allowed it to happen. you had so many voices on here adamant about his mental health etc. 

 

these people are supposedly smart well educated. donors. industrialists. politicians. money men. the list goes on. people that went to the best schools out there. worked at the highest positions of corporations and government. all of these people helped prop up a system that allowed it to get to this point. why ? 

 

conspiracy or just the brutally corrupt system. 

[HappyExpat57]

33 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

is it though ? it has been clear for quite some time about biden. yet the media and the entire party stood behind it all and allowed it to happen. you had so many voices on here adamant about his mental health etc. 

 

these people are supposedly smart well educated. donors. industrialists. politicians. money men. the list goes on. people that went to the best schools out there. worked at the highest positions of corporations and government. all of these people helped prop up a system that allowed it to get to this point. why ? 

 

conspiracy or just the brutally corrupt system. 

 

US SecretaryJulián Castro just finished explaining how the Dem's were TOLD Biden was going to be the candidate for the last two years. According to Secretary Castro, business owners who worked with the gubmint were told they would be blacklisted if they pushed for any other candidate. There were NO democratic primary debates which is the democratic process. This is NOT how a fair election works and people are starting to wake up to the fact that Biden is being rammed down their throats. I think this will not turn out well.

[spidermike007]

14 hours ago, xylophone said:

Now there is a point.....every time someone tells a lie a buzzer/hooter should sound. In which case trump's lies would be laid bare for all to see. After all he did participate in game shows, so he would be no stranger to this and it might show the American public what a liar and conman he is, if they didn't already know.

 

But having said that the Republicans already DO KNOW what a liar he is........so it says everything about them!! 

At a minimum, the moderators should have called him out each time he told a lie. That would have been a game changer.

[xylophone]

12 hours ago, xylophone said:

Here is the truth about key points in the debate....and it shows trump as his usual lying self!!

 

Joe Biden v Donald Trump debate: Some of the false claims made during Biden and Trump’s first debate……

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump traded barbs and a variety of false and misleading information as they faced off in their first debate of the 2024 election.

Trump falsely represented the January 6 attack on the US Capitol as a relatively small number of people who were ushered in by police and misrepresented the strength of the economy during his administration.

 

See more in this report and it shows trump lying repeatedly……..but then it is in his nature!!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/joe-biden-v-donald-trump-debate-some-of-the-false-claims-made-during-biden-and-trumps-first-debate

 

Here is the truth about key points in the debate....and it shows trump as his usual lying self!!

 

Joe Biden v Donald Trump debate: Some of the false claims made during Biden and Trump’s first debate……

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump traded barbs and a variety of false and misleading information as they faced off in their first debate of the 2024 election.

Trump falsely represented the January 6 attack on the US Capitol as a relatively small number of people who were ushered in by police and misrepresented the strength of the economy during his administration.

 

See more in this report and it shows trump lying repeatedly……..but then it is in his nature!!

 

Here is the truth about key points in the debate....and it shows trump as his usual lying self!!

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/joe-biden-v-donald-trump-debate-some-of-the-false-claims-made-during-biden-and-trumps-first-debate/W2W56EOTWJHBZATPY72KUSZY6A/ 

[Mike Lister]

It doesn't matter for me that Biden is old and suffering from age related issues, those things are understandable and forgivable in a candidate, lying is not.

[susanlea]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

At a minimum, the moderators should have called him out each time he told a lie. That would have been a game changer.

Interupting Biden every sentence would have been difficult. Biden lied non stop if you know the figures.

[watthong]

3 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Interupting Biden every sentence would have been difficult. Biden lied non stop if you know the figures.

 

PCKBS (pot calling the kettle black syndrome) ie MAGA second nature.

In full display, blatant and shameless.

[xylophone]

10 hours ago, susanlea said:

Most voters don't have a clue. 99% don't know the numbers. They just follow the party lies.

And trump and the GOP are masters at that!!

[EVENKEEL]

22 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

At a minimum, the moderators should have called him out each time he told a lie. That would have been a game changer.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-trump-debate-border-patrol-b2570384.html

Joe Biden claimed that the US border patrol endorsed him during Thursday’s first presidential debate — but the Border Patrol union immediately shot back and denied it.

[John Drake]

11 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Trump and Biden.  A 78 year old convicted felon and an 81 year old demented old man.  Is this the best that the USA can come up with?

 

Fetterman!

[metisdead]

Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

[Taboo2]

Information from Highly Placed sources is that they wanted Senile Joe to be exposed.  This gives them 4 months to prep the other psycho Gavin to moved into the lead role.

 

Americans love Democrats who sleep with their best friend's wife (Gavin), because he will do to the country, what he did to his best friend.

 

All EMPIRES MUST FALL!

 

If China, Iran and North Korea were smart, they would make their move now!  Putin is smart, he did....and is bleeding our arms supplies...with China and NK and Iran making a move....someone will have to light a candle!

 

Buckle UP!!!!!!

[susanlea]

Just now, HappyExpat57 said:

Really?

Supporting a serial sex offender, convicted felon, huckster is much worse.

Don't talk about Clinton like that.

[HappyExpat57]

Just now, susanlea said:

Don't talk about Clinton like that.

I really must stop taking the bait. You are incapable of having an adult discussion. Schoolyard taunts are the majority of your replies.

[susanlea]

Just now, HappyExpat57 said:

I really must stop taking the bait. You are incapable of having an adult discussion. Schoolyard taunts are the majority of your replies.

You act very childish. Just rants.

[HappyExpat57]

Just now, susanlea said:

You act very childish. Just rants.

And you just made my point. Buh bye.

[susanlea]

Just now, HappyExpat57 said:

And you just made my point. Buh bye.

My point exactly. Not capable of discussing real issues like inflation, jobs or the border.

 

Just angry anti Trump rants. That's how the left rolls. 4 years of covering Biden up. All got exposed now.

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No, they scheduled the 2nd debate before the 1st, and I bet he's starting to rue THAT decision.

Can't wait. In my diary.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The bottom line: This job is NOT one where you can depend on cheat sheets. You have to be able to make quick decisions that will have serious implications around the globe. That requires extreme mental acuity, and Joe doesn't have that any more. He was a great statesman in his time, but that time has passed. The other guy NEVER had it. He has a lizard brain that weighs everything for his personal benefit. I honestly think we're screwed unless someone sits Joe down and has a "come to Jesus" heart to heart with him.

Biden is going to have to do a press conference ASAP if he wants to be a viable candidate.

[Danderman123]

22 minutes ago, susanlea said:

My point exactly. Not capable of discussing real issues like inflation, jobs or the border.

 

Just angry anti Trump rants. That's how the left rolls. 4 years of covering Biden up. All got exposed now.

The people checking out Trump were also disappointed by some of the crazy stuff he said.

 

We'll see how the polling reacts to Biden's bad night.

[Cryingdick]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Biden is going to have to do a press conference ASAP if he wants to be a viable candidate.

 

he needs to do ones where he interacts with no script and takes questions. He has the credibility of a man that tried to lie about his herpes and gain access to an Amsterdam brothel. He has to go under the light and pay ahead now. If so he is always welcome.

 

Thats what it will take if he wants to click clogs.

Edited June 29 by Cryingdick

[mokwit]

21 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It's an right wing extremist movement and cult of personality comparable to Mussolini.

They seem to be normal ordinary people with mainstream views to me, what am I missing?

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

he needs to do ones where he interacts with no script and takes questions. He has the credibility of a man that tried to lie about his herpes and gain access to an Amsterdam brothel. He has to go under the light and pay ahead now. If so he is always welcome.

He never gives proper answers. Just blames Trump.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, susanlea said:

He never gives proper answers. Just blames Trump.

 

he has to demonstrate that he's can interact with other humans without a block of text. Either way dies to matter he wint step down. He is going to lose either way.

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Biden's bad night.

 

biden is toast and you know it. 

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

he has to demonstrate that he's can interact with other humans without a block of text. Either way dies to matter he wint step down. He is going to lose either way.

He is mentally gone.