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41 minutes ago, Stocky said:

No it doesn't it says
BRITISH PASSPORT

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Yes you are right, so even worse rubbing it in.

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Wow - a lot of misinformation in this thread. People should really check facts before showing how misinformed they are

> The UVF are anti-IRA & were formed to keep Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteer_Force

> The UVF were rather indiscriminate in their actions

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Ulster_Volunteer_Force_actions

> The Shankill Butchers also had a similar reputation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankill_Butchers

> As did the Red Hand Commandos

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hand_Commando

> Northern Ireland is considered part of the United Kingdom & they are entitled to travel under a British Passport - as are many former colonies - as there are different types of British nationality & different types of British passports to match

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_passport

     Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

> I presume he did his time for the crimes he was convicted of, & being a suspect in other crimes does not make him guilty of those crimes. So he is a free man - whether or not he is a good or bad man is another question we cannot answer based on the article.

> Finally, who cares how old they are?

    

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Yes you are right, so even worse rubbing it in.

Why?

 

You need to understand the political history and the geography. Geographically Northern Ireland is part of the island of Ireland, it isn't part of Great Britain. Great Britain is the largest island within the British Isles, and comprises Scotland, Wales and England. Note the island of Ireland forms part of the British Isles, together with the Isle of Man, Inner & Outer Hebrides, Shetland and Orkney.

 

Politically/historically Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom, which comprises the Kingdom of England and the Principality of Wales (1284), Kingdom of Ireland (1542) and Kingdom of Scotland (1707). However, southern Ireland left the United Kingdom in the act of partition (1921) becoming the Republic of Ireland; the northern provinces voted to remain part of the United Kingdom and are referred to as Northern Ireland.

 

 

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Congratulations to the happy couple. You could say he's a freedom fighter, calling him a terrorist is a bit unkind.

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The UVF and The Shankhill Butchers were the very worst kind of foul savage murdering terrorists. I saw one of the Shankhill Butchers "romper rooms" when it was raided, I was on the cordon,  horrible things went on in there.

 

Lenny Murphy, their psychotic leader, was eventually murdered by others in the gang. The weapon used was lent to the UVF by the Provisional IRA. It was forensically "clean" (had never been used) so there was no ballistic evidence - not that anyone looked too hard!

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Go look at some of the Philippine YouTubers. 40-50 year different is par for the course. One guy on there I follow went for testastarone treatments so he could get her pregnant.  I think he is about 70.  Wears me out just to think about it.

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On 7/17/2024 at 7:48 AM, Dcheech said:


Gormy McMullan was/is a loyalist Protestant,  a member of the loyalist terror group; The Ulster Volunteer Force . One of the groups the British Army and Northern Ireland PLOD treated with kid gloves, if not actually using as thier defacto allies during The Troubles. As he was killing Catholics at Loughinisland, he was never charged. Surprise Surprise Surprise

Do the tabloids you read, not mention these facts? 

Don't talk garbage, plenty of loyalists died or served long prison sentences.

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On 7/17/2024 at 8:52 AM, Bert got kinky said:

 

Mostly criminal thugs and bullies hiding behind religion.

 

Religion rarely comes into it, nationality or identity is what it's about. Are you British or Irish.?

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On 7/17/2024 at 8:35 AM, cdemundo said:

Mostly helping little old ladies cross the street?

only protestant ladies

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Posted
2 hours ago, saintdomingo said:

Religion rarely comes into it, nationality or identity is what it's about. Are you British or Irish.?

 

Religion rarely comes into it

Of course it does, try joining the UVF as a Catholic or hanging around Divis Flats while wearing an orange sash.

There are criminals who use their membership of these terrorist organisations as a shield and tool for their activities but the fact is that these organisations are set up in the name of religion.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Religion rarely comes into it

Of course it does, try joining the UVF as a Catholic or hanging around Divis Flats while wearing an orange sash.

There are criminals who use their membership of these terrorist organisations as a shield and tool for their activities but the fact is that these organisations are set up in the name of religion.

 

 

They are different religions but they are not fighting over religion i.e.the corporeal presence in the mass or the unscriptural nature of purgatory and indulgences.

Republicans (RC) regard themselves as Irish, Unionists/Loyalists (Prods) see themselves as British.

If you do not see that you are not looking properly. 

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22 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

They are different religions but they are not fighting over religion i.e.the corporeal presence in the mass or the unscriptural nature of purgatory and indulgences.

Republicans (RC) regard themselves as Irish, Unionists/Loyalists (Prods) see themselves as British.

If you do not see that you are not looking properly. 

 

I would love to be able to agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

 

 

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On 7/18/2024 at 1:14 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Ireland doesn't seen to want to have Northern Ireland back  

 

 

Of course the South wants unity with the North.  But Ulstermen ( the real name that Northern Irish Protestants are called) will do all they can to prevent it.

 

Unfortunately, the first minister who is Sinn Fein, plus SDLP and others, are now outnumbering the Protestant members of Stormont and actively pursuing a United Ireland. 

  And there is a majority in Stormont who support this.    And,  many of the Irish Parliament are also quietly in favour.

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On 7/18/2024 at 12:13 PM, Bert got kinky said:

 

Religion rarely comes into it

Of course it does, try joining the UVF as a Catholic or hanging around Divis Flats while wearing an orange sash.

There are criminals who use their membership of these terrorist organisations as a shield and tool for their activities but the fact is that these organisations are set up in the name of religion.

 

 

They were originally partially set up in the name of religion, but the numbers now with any knowledge of theology or religion are drastically reduced. There has been a slide towards nationalism.

Anyway as we know, the paramilitaries have largely been stood down so that problem is largely over.

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2 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

They were originally partially set up in the name of religion, but the numbers now with any knowledge of theology or religion are drastically reduced. There has been a slide towards nationalism.

Anyway as we know, the paramilitaries have largely been stood down so that problem is largely over.

Agreed.  But Ulstermen will never give up their British nationality.  So, it's going to be a difficult thing to slide into Irish Unity.

 

There are too many painful memories and old fashioned unsettled feuds, in the psyche of the " old style" Ulstermen.

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