It's time to put this Progressive Left-wing Conspiracy Theory to bed

[connda]

Yes - Donald Trump was hit in the ear with a bullet.  Source: The FBI.

"No no no.  It was glass and Trump is just a weenie and whiner for getting a little boo-boo on his ear and saying he got hit with a bullet.  Ha ha ha."

🙄 Sorry Lefties.  He was hit in the ear with a bullet according to the FBI which which came a few millimeters from killing him during the July 13th assassination attempt.  Why trivialize that heinous attack?  Well, other than ya'll being full of hated for anyone who espoused conservative values. Especially Trump and his supporters.

"You're just a typical MAGA Trump Supporter!!!  Grrrrr!"

Sorry to inform you Lefty Conspiracy Theorists, but you've got that wrong too.  Yeah, I'm gonna vote in November, just not for either of candidates from the Two-Party-Duopoly^TM .  Conservative doesn't = MAGA Trump Supporter.  Both Democrats and Republicans suck.  But neither deserve to be the object of an assassination attempt no matter how much any of us may dislike a candidate.  A Liberal Democracy isn't built on assassination attempts on those whom you personally dislike although the Left-wing Conspiracy Theorists may disagree, it's built on the democratically elected representatives chosen in elections.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fbi-confirms-bullet-struck-trumps-ear-assassination-attempt-rcna163896

[stopthecap]

As an aussie living in thailand from an outsiders view:

 

* Lefties regardless of the country embrace hate over love

* Classify themselves as smarter

* Believe in democracy but only if you vote for the left

* They are egotistical plainly for the fact they believe anyone centre or centre right is stupid

* Wish death on people

* Are triggered by key words (almost like they are hypnotised) ELON, TRUMP etc

 

 

Edited July 28 by stopthecap

[Fat is a type of crazy]

But your assumption is that 'lefties' - presumably all people leaning towards Democrats - said this was the case. Some might have. Some who had a social media presence might have.  The rest - likely 99 per cent - had no opinion either way. You might think lefties are an amorphous mass whereas the lefties you don't like maybe are a few on the extreme, more likely to be young, and some others. 

[connda]

1 hour ago, Angus55 said:

Its really a pity he wasnt hit betwwen tbe eyes with a bullet

So you are pro-assassination?  Would you facilitate the assassination of a politician whom you personally hate and detest, obviously such as Donald Trump?   I do wonder about people like yourself.  You very literally just wished death on Trump whom you must hate very badly.  I just wonder how far removed you are from wishing death on someone and assisting to carry out your death wishes? 

[stevenl]

At the start it was unclear wether it was a bullet or glass. That has now been clarified. No confusion or conspiracy at all 

[sirineou]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Yes - Donald Trump was hit in the ear with a bullet.  Source: The FBI.

Wrong!! do your research before starting a thread 

"Former president Donald Trump was shot in the ear by a bullet or a bullet fragment "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/07/26/trump-bullet-shot-assassination-attempt/

 : 

[susanlea]

1 hour ago, stopthecap said:

As an aussie living in thailand from an outsiders view:

 

* Lefties regardless of the country embrace hate over love

* Classify themselves as smarter

* Believe in democracy but only if you vote for the left

* They are egotistical plainly for the fact they believe anyone centre or centre right is stupid

* Wish death on people

* Are triggered by key words (almost like they are hypnotised) ELON, TRUMP etc

 

 

Yes they are sick.

[Yellowtail]

56 minutes ago, stevenl said:

At the start it was unclear wether it was a bullet or glass. That has now been clarified. No confusion or conspiracy at all 

No, it was a made up conspiracy. Where would glass even come from? 

[Yellowtail]

44 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Wrong!! do your research before starting a thread 

"Former president Donald Trump was shot in the ear by a bullet or a bullet fragment "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/07/26/trump-bullet-shot-assassination-attempt/

 : 

A bullet fragment from what? 

 

And how might it have become fragmented? 

[herfiehandbag]

An AR15 round is a high velocity 5.56mm round. If it had hit his ear, the kinetic energy alone would have scalped him.

 

A fragment from the bullet, or a splinter from whatever it hit ( the teleprompter?) nicked his ear.

[MalcolmB]

I wouldn’t trust Trump to tell the truth.

 

Or the FBI.

 

Both are proven compulsive liars.

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

An AR15 round is a high velocity 5.56mm round. If it had hit his ear, the kinetic energy alone would have scalped him.

 

A fragment from the bullet, or a splinter from whatever it hit ( the teleprompter?) nicked his ear.

That's hilarious. I think you are on too many conspiracy sites. A high velocity round that hits the back of the head leaves a tiny hole where it enters. The skull and the brain and whatnot slow the round down such that it leaves a large exit would. 

 

A high velocity round that nicks the ear would not slow significantly. It would just knock off a bit of ear and keep going. 

 

 

 

How many thousands of cameras and no pictures or reports of damaged teleprompters. 

[novacova]

16 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

An AR15 round is a high velocity 5.56mm round. If it had hit his ear, the kinetic energy alone would have scalped him.

 

A fragment from the bullet, or a splinter from whatever it hit ( the teleprompter?) nicked his ear.

You have no clue of what you’re saying, the same as Wray when he said “cartridges” opposed to the correct term casings. I suppose you believe a 5.56 or 7.62 round would blow up a flat cardboard target, which probably has the same density and thickness of an ear. Well I’ll tell you from experience that it doesn’t, it leaves a hole the size of the diameter of the round. 

[Hanaguma]

5 minutes ago, novacova said:

You have no clue of what you’re saying, the same as Wray when he said “cartridges” opposed to the correct term casings. I suppose you believe a 5.56 or 7.62 round would blow up a flat cardboard target, which probably has the same density and thickness of an ear. Well I’ll tell you from experience that it doesn’t, it leaves a hole the size of the diameter of the round. 

It is somewhat ironic to hear lefties, who hate guns and know little about them, pontificate about what kind of bullet or fragment would cause what damage. They probably think the AR15 is an automatic rifle.

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, novacova said:

You have no clue of what you’re saying, the same as Wray when he said “cartridges” opposed to the correct term casings. I suppose you believe a 5.56 or 7.62 round would blow up a flat cardboard target, which probably has the same density and thickness of an ear. Well I’ll tell you from experience that it doesn’t, it leaves a hole the size of the diameter of the round. 

A round hitting a flat cardboard target, at right angles, and the associated damage it causes. is an entirely different matter to a round grazing a human head.

 

Whilst you have, no doubt, great experience with paper targets, my experience, gained over 28 years as a soldier, encompasses seeing the effects of both 5.56 and 7.62 bullets on both paper targets and human beings. 

 

So I reiterate, a high velocity 5.56 bullet, passing alongside a human head, close enough to hit the ear, would have done far more damage. If nothing else, that close to his ear, he would be deafened in that ear, probably permanently, certainly ruptured eardrums.

 

 

[jvs]

You can all stop your responses,his ear shows no damage at all!

Maybe Jezus healed him or because he is like Jezus he cured himself.

Amazing!

[Will B Good]

6 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

If nothing else, that close to his ear, he would be deafened in that ear, probably permanently, certainly ruptured eardrums.

 

 

 

Never considered that aspect......

 

Blast Injury or Acoustic Trauma:

 

• Even if a bullet does not directly hit the inner structures of the ear, the pressure wave can cause acoustic trauma, damaging the inner ear’s hair cells or other components essential for hearing.

• Damage to the auditory nerve or surrounding tissues can also lead to neural hearing loss.

[Will B Good]

15 hours ago, stopthecap said:

As an aussie living in thailand from an outsiders view:

 

* Lefties regardless of the country embrace hate over love

* Classify themselves as smarter

* Believe in democracy but only if you vote for the left

* They are egotistical plainly for the fact they believe anyone centre or centre right is stupid

* Wish death on people

* Are triggered by key words (almost like they are hypnotised) ELON, TRUMP etc

 

 

 

Think you missed an 'r' in your monika.

[Ben Zioner]

17 hours ago, connda said:

Well, other than ya'll being full of hated for anyone who espoused conservative values.

But Trump doesn't have any values at all, wasn't he a Democrat some years ago? He just wants to be on TV in the top Job. And for that he appeals to least educated members of the electorate. Just sucks IMO.

[Rimmer]

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[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

But Trump doesn't have any values at all, wasn't he a Democrat some years ago? He just wants to be on TV in the top Job. And for that he appeals to least educated members of the electorate. Just sucks IMO.

It is the least educated member of the electorate that need help, the "educated" are doing great. 

 

In fact, the current administration has, and is continuing to circumvent the Constitution to have the least educated pay for the student loans taken out by the educated. 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

A round hitting a flat cardboard target, at right angles, and the associated damage it causes. is an entirely different matter to a round grazing a human head.

It did not graze his head; it grazed his ear. Yes, the ear is part of the head, but it typically sticks out. 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

Whilst you have, no doubt, great experience with paper targets, my experience, gained over 28 years as a soldier, encompasses seeing the effects of both 5.56 and 7.62 bullets on both paper targets and human beings. 

I bet, SIS no doubt. 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

So I reiterate, a high velocity 5.56 bullet, passing alongside a human head, close enough to hit the ear, would have done far more damage.

No, it would not have. 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

If nothing else, that close to his ear, he would be deafened in that ear, probably permanently, certainly ruptured eardrums.

The only real noise would be the round hitting the ear. The round passing through the air makes very little noise. Virtually all the noise from a firearm, is the combustion, and the crack of the round breaking the sound barrier as it exits the muzzle. 

 

As an MI6 agent, surely you know all of this.  

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The only real noise would be the round hitting the ear. The round passing through the air makes very little noise. Virtually all the noise from a firearm, is the combustion, and the crack of the round breaking the sound barrier as it exits the muzzle. 

 

Many bullets travel at supersonic speeds, creating a shockwave or “crack” as they break the sound barrier. This crack can be very loud, often exceeding 140 decibels (dB).

 

A sound level of 140 dB or more can cause instant and permanent hearing loss.

 

[riclag]

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

No, it was a made up conspiracy. Where would glass even come from? 

Trump fired & replaced a FBI director who was politically bias(rino comey)and help entrap, set up Trumps National Security Adviser, Flynn.

It was suggested by Chris Cristy to appoint Wray!

This time around, Shrapnel Wray ,Won’t Last A Day.

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Many bullets travel at supersonic speeds, creating a shockwave or “crack” as they break the sound barrier. This crack can be very loud, often exceeding 140 decibels (dB).

 

A sound level of 140 dB or more can cause instant and permanent hearing loss.

 

Is that not what I said? "The only real noise would be the round hitting the ear. The round passing through the air makes very little noise. Virtually all the noise from a firearm, is the combustion, and the crack of the round breaking the sound barrier as it exits the muzzle." 

 

The bullet only breaks the sound barrier once. Once the bullet exits the muzzle, it starts slowing down, it does not keep making noise until it hits something. 

 

The noise is (virtually) all at the shooter. The bullet, travelling faster than sound, hits the target before the target can hear it. The noise Trump heard, would have been about the same as anyone around him heard, except that Trump likely heard the thump of the impact on the ear. 

 

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

the round passing through the air makes very little noise

No.....near the ear, not hitting the ear.

 

The sound, 140dB, is from the pressure wave not the act of hitting the ear.

 

A typical round is still travelling at 2 to 3 times the speed of sound after travelling 200m

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

No.....near the ear, not hitting the ear.

 

The sound, 140dB, is from the pressure wave not the act of hitting the ear.

 

A typical round is still travelling at 2 to 3 times the speed of sound after travelling 200m

Then it would make the same "pressure wave" and noise as it passed by anything, yes? 

 

And at 140db, anyone standing within 100m would hear it as well, yes? 

 

And it would sound like two shots, because the time of impact is different from the time of impact, yes? 

 

And any instant and permanent damage would be minor/negligible, yes? Because if it weren't most every shooter would be deaf, yes? 

 

Trump got nicked on the ear with a bullet, and even if he did not, and he actually got hit by a fragment, what difference does it make? Do you think it was staged or what? 

[connda]

17 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

But your assumption is that 'lefties' - presumably all people leaning towards Democrats - said this was the case. Some might have. Some who had a social media presence might have.  The rest - likely 99 per cent - had no opinion either way. You might think lefties are an amorphous mass whereas the lefties you don't like maybe are a few on the extreme, more likely to be young, and some others. 

I don't dislike people for their political views per-say. But I have a huge problem with people who want the State to beat down anyone in the general population who doesn't hold there own views.  The irony with many on the Left is they espouse "tolerance" and yet display no tolerance for anyone other than those with their own view.  Then getting the State involved to be their strong-arm enforcers:
Make those people shut up. 
Throw those people in jail for their thoughts.
Imprison or kill their leaders and supporters.
If they protest, beat them on the streets and let us help.
Make them wear masks, make them take shots, throw them in concentration camps.
If "they" go to the capital to protest it's an "insurrection."  If we do the same thing it's a fiery but peaceful protest. 
And so on.............

You can't make this up as we've seen it play out over the last few years and it's getting worse every year.  Most traditionalists and conservatives want to live their lives and be left alone, and yet still want to exercise their Constitutional rights; many on the Left, perhaps a majority, want the State to make traditionalists and conservatives to do what the Left wants them to do, even if it means inflicting lawfare, violence, and actually throwing them into concentration camps or prison - exactly what the Left says that traditionalists and conservatives want to do to them.  But that couldn't be further from the truth.  Traditionalists and conservatives basically say, "Do whatever you want to do, just leave us, our families, and our children out of it and don't tread on our Constitutional rights and rights under Natural Law. 

But the Left just can't do that, so therein lies the problem.

[Roo Island]

20 hours ago, connda said:

Yes - Donald Trump was hit in the ear with a bullet.  Source: The FBI.

"No no no.  It was glass and Trump is just a weenie and whiner for getting a little boo-boo on his ear and saying he got hit with a bullet.  Ha ha ha."

🙄 Sorry Lefties.  He was hit in the ear with a bullet according to the FBI which which came a few millimeters from killing him during the July 13th assassination attempt.  Why trivialize that heinous attack?  Well, other than ya'll being full of hated for anyone who espoused conservative values. Especially Trump and his supporters.

"You're just a typical MAGA Trump Supporter!!!  Grrrrr!"

Sorry to inform you Lefty Conspiracy Theorists, but you've got that wrong too.  Yeah, I'm gonna vote in November, just not for either of candidates from the Two-Party-Duopoly^TM .  Conservative doesn't = MAGA Trump Supporter.  Both Democrats and Republicans suck.  But neither deserve to be the object of an assassination attempt no matter how much any of us may dislike a candidate.  A Liberal Democracy isn't built on assassination attempts on those whom you personally dislike although the Left-wing Conspiracy Theorists may disagree, it's built on the democratically elected representatives chosen in elections.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fbi-confirms-bullet-struck-trumps-ear-assassination-attempt-rcna163896

I know few that think Trump wasn't hit by a bullet. Just those who get their information from dodgy media outlets.

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

I know few that think Trump wasn't hit by a bullet. Just those who get their information from dodgy media outlets.

How about the guys that think it was the "shock wave" of the bullet passing by, or a shard of glass from an undamaged plastic teleprompter? Those guys are a hoot huh?