UK Winter Fuel Payments Scrapped for Millions Amid Budget Cuts

[RichardColeman]

I am sat waiting for a response from all those living here saying vote Labour - and now seeing their transfers of money from our UK now fall 2% in value against the baht. Hope you enjoy the lack of money ! Just the start, wait for another 2-4% drop when labour do the budget !

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, RichardColeman said:

I am sat waiting for a response from all those living here saying vote Labour - and now seeing their transfers of money from our UK now fall 2% in value against the baht. Hope you enjoy the lack of money ! Just the start, wait for another 2-4% drop when labour do the budget !

 

   That will be Brexits fault 

[soalbundy]

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Until you need healthcare.

How are you better off in the UK than here regarding treatment? in the UK you can wait 2 to 3 weeks for a doctors appointment and in some cases a year or more for an OP.I went for consultation here and had an OP straight away (not an emergency) Yes I am insured here for a moderate sum, it has served me well twice.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

How are you better off in the UK than here regarding treatment? in the UK you can wait 2 to 3 weeks for a doctors appointment and in some cases a year or more for an OP.I went for consultation here and had an OP straight away (not an emergency) Yes I am insured here for a moderate sum, it has served me well twice.

Huge difference between getting a prompt GP appointment and the healthcare required for...say....renal failure, stroke, heart attack etc

[youreavinalaff]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

How are you better off in the UK than here regarding treatment? in the UK you can wait 2 to 3 weeks for a doctors appointment and in some cases a year or more for an OP.I went for consultation here and had an OP straight away (not an emergency) Yes I am insured here for a moderate sum, it has served me well twice.

Here in UK my wife has a doctors appointment today. Booked it last week. My father is due an op. On the waiting list for 4 weeks already, due on 27th August.

 

It's not as bad as some like to make out.

[Will B Good]

13 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

My wife has a doctors appointment today. Booked it last week. My father is due an op. On the waiting list for 4 weeks already, due on 27th August.

 

It's not as bad as some like to make out.

I was triaged by phone at 1030 on a Friday......saw my GP at 1130.....referred to a hospital specialist for 1330.........none of which helped.....but the response was excellent.

 

York in the UK.

[sungod]

I'm glad the extra money will be going to the junior doctors, it will help them in treating all the old people when they get hyperthermia this winter.

[proton]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Government inherits £22Billion hole in public finances is the real news.

 

 

 

Wasting 8 million quid a day on just the illegal immigrants and several billion a year is more bad news.

[Will B Good]

Just now, proton said:

 

Wasting 8 million quid a day on just the illegal immigrants and several billion a year is more bad news.

 

 

Exactly.....what the hell were the Tories playing at for 14 years?

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Wasting 8 million quid a day on just the illegal immigrants and several billion a year is more bad news.

 

The Tory ex-chancellor was on the news this am.......strongly recommending immigration restrictions are lifted in order for the UK to enjoy future growth?????

[youreavinalaff]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Exactly.....what the hell were the Tories playing at for 14 years?

Hardly 14 years. Mass illegal immigration, at recent levels, is a relatively new thing. 

 

It's something that has caught many countries out.

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

The Tory ex-chancellor was on the news this am.......strongly recommending immigration restrictions are lifted in order for the UK to enjoy future growth?????

That won't affect illegal immigration.

[BritManToo]

26 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Here in UK my wife has a doctors appointment today. Booked it last week. My father is due an op. On the waiting list for 4 weeks already, due on 27th August.

 

It's not as bad as some like to make out.

And yet in a 3rd world country, I can walk into a hospital and see a doctor the same day for 50bht. Free parking as well!

[Petethefeet]

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

And yet in a 3rd world country, I can walk into a hospital and see a doctor the same day for 50bht. Free parking as well!

...and still receive first world medical care?

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

Not happy with Labour balancing the budget?

If they can't pay the winter fuel allowance to stop pensioners freezing to death, they certainly can't afford to send one more penny to Ukraine.

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

...and still receive first world medical care?

Doesn't matter how good the care is if you die in the 2-3 weeks before you get treated.

[soalbundy]

24 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Here in UK my wife has a doctors appointment today. Booked it last week. My father is due an op. On the waiting list for 4 weeks already, due on 27th August.

 

It's not as bad as some like to make out.

Depends what the op is for but I think a 4 week wait isn't good. 50 years ago when the NHS was still a good service I was given a 2 year wait for a severely broken and off center nose due to a car accident, I was told it was cosmetic surgery to put it right. Before that date was up I was working in Germany and went to the doctors for a bout of flu, he said I could get an op within the week as the nose was interfering with my breathing, he considered a 2 year wait as negligence on behalf of the NHS as it certainly wasn't just cosmetic.

[youreavinalaff]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

And yet in a 3rd world country, I can walk into a hospital and see a doctor the same day for 50bht. Free parking as well!

You can walk into a hospital and see a doctor same day in UK. Free.

[soalbundy]

37 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Huge difference between getting a prompt GP appointment and the healthcare required for...say....renal failure, stroke, heart attack etc

I would hope there is.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

...and still receive first world medical care?

In my case yes. In fact a Thai Dr solved a problem I had that many western doctors were unable to solve.

 

However, I think it cost 300 baht. Considering I pay way more than that for an incompetent western Dr to not solve my problems that is a bargain.

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If they can't pay the winter fuel allowance to stop pensioners freezing to death, they certainly can't afford to send one more penny to Ukraine.

It's not all pensioners. The winter fuel payment is now means tested. That is all.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

You can walk into a hospital and see a doctor same day in UK. Free.

How much to park your car?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Doesn't matter how good the care is if you die in the 2-3 weeks before you get treated.

It's not even good care in my experience, despite costing a great deal.

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In my case yes. In fact a Thai Dr solved a problem I had that many western doctors were unable to solve.

 

However, I think it cost 300 baht. Considering I pay way more than that for an incompetent western Dr to not solve my problems that is a bargain.

Why would you pay a doctor in UK? 

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

How much to park your car?

Nothing.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Depends what the op is for but I think a 4 week wait isn't good. 50 years ago when the NHS was still a good service I was given a 2 year wait for a severely broken and off center nose due to a car accident, I was told it was cosmetic surgery to put it right. Before that date was up I was working in Germany and went to the doctors for a bout of flu, he said I could get an op within the week as the nose was interfering with my breathing, he considered a 2 year wait as negligence on behalf of the NHS as it certainly wasn't just cosmetic.

As someone that worked 10 years in the NHS, it's a wonderful idea ruined by incompetent managers and corruption.

[youreavinalaff]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Doesn't matter how good the care is if you die in the 2-3 weeks before you get treated.

If you have a life threatening condition, you won't be waiting for treatment. 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How much to park your car?

Nothing...got a Freedom Pass...travel everywhere for free...

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

How are you better off in the UK than here regarding treatment? in the UK you can wait 2 to 3 weeks for a doctors appointment and in some cases a year or more for an OP.I went for consultation here and had an OP straight away (not an emergency) Yes I am insured here for a moderate sum, it has served me well twice.

Firstly the waiting lists were created by over 14 years of Tory mismanagement.

 

Secondly, the waiting list in Thailand is how long if you don’t have the money to pay?