3 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

What do you think you don't see every day in Thailand?

 

But you see a lot more as well. You see homeless and poop every day in San Francisco. So make an ad of Japanese business travelers stepping around piles of poop, addicts shooting up, homeless begging and threatening, on their way to a flophouse outside of Union Square. Duh.

5 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

as far as I can see it, the add was very balanced.

 

No. The problem with bigots is that somehow bigotry is innate, learned from the culture and elementary school onwards, and so imperceivable to the bigot himself. Some of our biggest bigots here are married to Thais. I remember one POTY who couldn't wait until his Thai wife, good woman who took care of him extremely well, went off to work as a teacher so he could enjoy himself denigrating her race, culture, country, politics, and everything else Thai.

 

There seems to be no cure for it, so suppression by force is the only way towards proper respect.

19 minutes ago, Advocatus Diaboli said:

They negatively were not given the opportunity to select the brown envelope, maybe that is why the sad face. 😭 

 

Ignorant rubbish as usual.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

a few modern spots like Bangkok

 

Bangkok is more than a "spot." Laughable. The travelers are trying to do business in that "spot." Again, we have to wonder what planet you live on.

 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

the reality is that when you step into a taxi in Thailand

 

The reality is that these business travelers would have been met at the modern airport by a company rep, driver, and modern car/van.

 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There are so many realities that were reflected in this ad

 

Only outdated, backward, inapplicable, negative realities for modern business travelers on expense accounts doing business-to-business transactions.

 

Oh I can't wait for White Lotus 3 to arrive on our screens.

4 hours ago, damian said:

They need to have a look at their own movies particulalry the comedies. 

 

A comedy with the purpose of being only a comedy and understood as only a comedy not to be taken seriously.

 

Totally different from business advertisement, which can be comedic w/o pretending it's modern reality for the bigoted and unwashed.

 

34 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

But you see a lot more as well. You see homeless and poop every day in San Francisco. So make an ad of Japanese business travelers stepping around piles of poop, addicts shooting up, homeless begging and threatening, on their way to a flophouse outside of Union Square. Duh.

 

Are you seriously comparing the average lifestyles of working class Thai people with drug addicts and human feces? Or has an attempt at whataboutism caused you to become a little derailed?

2 hours ago, arick said:

80% of the country lives like that so what's the problem 

 

The 20% don't want the rest of the world to know the truth.

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Are you seriously comparing the average lifestyles of working class Thai people

 

You seem derailed by the ad's whataboutism because you want to be. It isn't about average lifesyles of working class Thai people. It's about business travelers arriving to do business with middle class Thai business people--in a high tech industry. 

 

So Apple could use the same negative selection bias in San Francisco. But it wouldn't dare. Half the country--the libs--would be up in arms at THAT reality.

 

 

I have a location for Apple's next video

 

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

The 20% don't want the rest of the world to know the truth.

 

The 20% have no problem at all with ads targeted towards the appropriate audience. An ad for backpackers, showing how they travel and where they stay, while laughing at the backpackers (which we LOVE here), would be just fine.

 

But the backlash against the ad seems broadly based, for good reason.

 

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

Money's money. The marketing concept came from Apple itself, and the Thai production company merely followed and embellished the script. Not their job to approve or disapprove, long as it wasn't directly insulting, merely portraying Thailand as it was decades ago.

 

Or apple said "give us something funny in Thailand", and they obliged.

5 hours ago, damian said:

They need to have a look at their own movies particulalry the comedies. 

 

Ahh... but it's OK for the Bangkokians to mock Issan. It's totally different! 

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

Or apple said "give us something funny in Thailand", and they obliged.

 

No.

59 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Negative selection bias.

 

It's not negative, though. It's just how normal Thai people live.

 

You're the one putting the negative spin on it.

1 minute ago, BigStar said:

No.

 

As likely as anything you have said.

Just now, sabai-dee-man said:

 

Ahh... but it's OK for the Bangkokians to mock Issan. It's totally different! 

 

False analogy we keep hearing here. Comedy for comedy's sake, understood as comedy, its only purpose to amuse, is totally different from a business ad for an international audience.

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

The 20% have no problem at all with ads targeted towards the appropriate audience. An ad for backpackers, showing how they travel and where they stay, while laughing at the backpackers (which we LOVE here), would be just fine.

 

But the backlash against the ad seems broadly based, for good reason.

 

I think the problem stems from your need to look down on others. That isn't what the add is about.

 

The backlash is about insecure people who are unhappy that a certain slice of Thai life is being shown, and they don't like the idea that people will think that's what all of Thailand is like.

3 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

False analogy we keep hearing here. Comedy for comedy's sake, understood as comedy, its only purpose to amuse, is totally different from a business ad for an international audience.

 

BS.

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

It's not negative, though. It's just how normal Thai people live.

 

The myopic poster vision. Thais aren't all the same. Inconceivable, eh. As part of the bigotry, TAT: ANF has always denied there's any Thai middle class. Therefore there can be no tourism. Thai shoppers in malls don't exist: Thais have no money, they're just there for aircon. Farang on principle don't buy in malls, to preserve their Golden Egg Layer status, so ANF Poster Economics holds that Thai shopping malls only launder money.

 

 

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

You're the one putting the negative spin on it.

 

That's why Apple pulled the ad. They didn't like my "negative spin." I wield tremendous powere.

 

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

As likely as anything you have said.

 

Oh, correct then. Are you done?

20 minutes ago, BigStar said:

You seem derailed by the ad's whataboutism because you want to be. It isn't about average lifesyles of working class Thai people. It's about business travelers arriving to do business with middle class Thai business people--in a high tech industry. 

 

I suggest you rewatch the video, as the ad doesnt contain any whataboutism, it's about people from a very small conpany ordering boxes (pretty low-tech), and they're facing challenges that working class Thai people face due to the demands of their client.

 

Even if you don't like the reality of Thailand being shown, that's what happened.

 

20 minutes ago, BigStar said:

So Apple could use the same negative selection bias in San Francisco. But it wouldn't dare. Half the country--the libs--would be up in arms at THAT reality.

 

You should probably look up "negative selection bias" when you look up whataboutism.

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

The myopic poster vision. Thais aren't all the same.

 

Indeed you do view things from a miopic viewpoint. Most Thais experience what is in the advert. A few don't, and they aren't happy about it being made to look like they do.

 

But reality is what reality is, even if you don’t like it.

8 hours ago, Zack61 said:

There seems to be an over abundance of thin skins. Sometimes you’ve gotta be able to laugh at yourself and not take everything to heart 

Of course, and I doubt that Apple cares a fig ! All over the world we laugh at each other’s neighbors, even our own landsmen. 

8 hours ago, Zack61 said:

There seems to be an over abundance of thin skins. Sometimes you’ve gotta be able to laugh at yourself and not take everything to heart 

Of course, and I doubt that Apple cares a fig ! All over the world we laugh at each other’s neighbors, even our own landsmen. 

8 hours ago, Zack61 said:

There seems to be an over abundance of thin skins. Sometimes you’ve gotta be able to laugh at yourself and not take everything to heart 

Of course, and I doubt that Apple cares a fig ! All over the world we laugh at each other’s neighbors, even our own landsmen. 

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I think the problem stems from your need to look down on others.

 

Actually your own problem and that of the viewers to whom Apple tried to appeal.

 

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

The backlash is about insecure people who are unhappy that a certain slice of Thai life is being shown

 

An inapplicable, unrealistic, negative (in the context) slice of Thai life for what would be the reality of the business-to business situation. Insecurity has nothing to do with it, but is merely a projection of your own need to feel superior.

 

15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

they don't like the idea that people will think that's what all of Thailand is like.

 

Can't think of any reason they'd want people to think that and reinforce all the pre-existing bigotry in the West and on the forum. San Fran residents wouldn't like a portrayal of their city as a hotbed of crime, homeless, and poop, although there it all is, right there downtown.

 

 

 

Not an Apple fan, but I thought it was well done.

 

Maybe the locals should have a word with the authority that gave permission & approved it 

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Even if you don't like the reality of Thailand being shown, that's what happened.

 

Yes, that happens in the ad. But in modern day real life, for these business travelers on expense accounts doing a business-to-business transaction with middle-class (Chinese) Thai business people, in Bangkok, it wouldn't happen. This is the point you continue to ignore--because you want to so much.

 

I'm going to stop repeating it for you.

 

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Maybe the locals should have a word with the authority that gave permission & approved it 

 

They're now aware of it. Of course, they'll never admit anything. Just as face-saving as posters here, actually.