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Israel Hamas War the Widening Middle East Conflict

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5 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Not occupation, I'd call it joint administration between Tsahal and elected leaders in each subdivision. Higher level decisions for concerning the whole strip made at meetings in Tel Aviv, possibly Jerusalem would "look" better. And IMHO this would have to last for a couple of decades.

 

That's all from my brain only, of course.

 

BTW occupation will be needed in Southern Lebanon, again, as Hezbollah have claimed their share of the killing..

I think a 2 state solution is the only fair way. 

 

Look what happened the last time you occupied Lebanon in 1982, that didn't work out well, and caused the formation of Hezbollah. 

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9 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

BTW occupation will be needed in Southern Lebanon, again, as Hezbollah have claimed their share of the killing..

This occupation would be a violation of Lebanese sovereignty. 

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

This occupation would be a violation of Lebanese sovereignty. 

Sure, but can't do without though,

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

This occupation would be a violation of Lebanese sovereignty. 

 

  That didn't seem to be an issue when Hezbollah were occupying the same land .

   Just exchange Hezbollah for the IDF, straight swap 

2 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Sure, but can't do without though,

Herein lies one of the reasons many world leaders condemn Israel, for not obeying international law. 

 

By the way nice map of Land Of Moriah. Where life began, I believe.

51 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This occupation would be a violation of Lebanese sovereignty. 

Hezbollah should have thought of that before launching 9,000 missiles at Israel since 8th Oct! Don't you want the terrorists eliminated?

16 hours ago, Neeranam said:

What do you mean by post war control? 

Do you mean occupation? 

 

 

What else could it be? One wonders what Biden is thinking as netanyahu snubs his nose at him and his previously stated desire that israel does not occupy Gaza, after combat finishes.

 

 

  • Israeli forces killed at least 64 Palestinians in Gaza on Wednesday, most of them in the north, where a six-day siege has forced the United Nations to shut down schools-turned-shelters, as well as hospitals.

https://aje.io/novgpb

On 10/9/2024 at 6:22 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

To get there by aircraft they have to pass by or over unfriendly countries, and they will no doubt be waiting for the attack. It would be easiest to eliminate the refueling aircraft as they fly more slowly, and without refueling the attack aircraft will not get back, and no friendly countries to land in.

 

I assume it'll be by missiles or Iranian interests elsewhere.

You'll find out soon enough and then you can come back and complain about Israel having the audacity to strike back defending itself against terrorists eh..........

 

Israel says attack on Iran will be precise and lethal
“They won’t understand what happened and how,” defense minister vows.

https://www.politico.eu/article/yoav-gallant-israel-attack-iran-precise-lethal/

4 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Let's not forget the continual killing in Gaza. 

 

At least 28 people have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a school sheltering displaced families in the central Gaza Strip, the Palestinian Red Crescent says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9jm4ggjgyo

A precise strike on a Hamas command center killing terrorists using a school, unforuntely a few civilians also casulaties . Thanks for the reminder of the killing in Gaza. Another war crime by Hamas. Trust you to miss out that information in the same link. You have to read links when your not posting Al Jazeera lies.

 

“precise strike” targeted Hamas fighters operating inside a "command-and-control centre” at the school.

It also said it had taken numerous steps to mitigate harm to the civilians living there.

“This is a further example of the Hamas terrorist organisation’s systematic abuse of civilian infrastructure in violation of international law,” it added. Hamas has denied the allegation.

More killing of civilians in refugee camps.

 

At least 22 people, including women and children, have been killed in an Israeli attack on the Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza as Israeli forces press on with their ground assault in the area.

https://aje.io/riyn9z

 

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:57 PM, Neeranam said:

This occupation would be a violation of Lebanese sovereignty. 

 

Hezbollah is an occupying force. It is not the Lebanese state. Why are you not opposed to a militarized religious group occupying southern  lebanon? Why not return sovereignty and control to lebanon? If that was done, there would not be a need for Israel to intervene.

Graphic description on how the Hamas executed hostages were found in the Gaza tunnel relayed by one of the brave mothers in an interview. One of them was found dead, bullet ridden but slumped on his knees while one of the beautiful women who was also executed had her head laying on his lap. :sad:

 

"Rachel Goldberg: Hersh was found on his knees. He had collapsed and was on his knees with Eden Yerushalmi’s head on his lap. It was a horrifying scene. 

All of them were so thin. All of them were shot multiple times at close range. There were bottles of urine, very dark urine, found throughout the tunnel showing how dehydrated all of them were. There was a plastic bucket that they had put at the end of the tunnel for some sort of privacy. It was just a nightmare."

 

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Above is a short snippet of the text referred to.

 

Full 24 minute interview here

https://x.com/LeviYonit/status/1844642975076200559

 

48 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Graphic description on how the Hamas executed hostages were found in the Gaza tunnel relayed by one of the brave mothers in an interview. One of them was found dead, bullet ridden but slumped on his knees while one of the beautiful women who was also executed had her head laying on his lap. :sad:

 

My deepest condolences to all the families of the  murdered hostages and other  Israeli  victims of the Oct 7 attacks who were killed simply because they were Jewish.  My deepest condolences also go to the families of non-Israeli and non-Jewish victims of the attacks.  

 

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31 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Lebanon used to be a modern Christian majority country. 

 

Then, the Islam virus took over.

 

I visited Lebanon way back in 1970 before the PLO invasion.  I was totally surprised by how tolerant and progressive it was.  Beirut had a nightlife scene that rivaled any European city.   Christians and Muslims lived in harmony with mutual respect.  The Lebanese Civil War destroyed all of that.

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Nethanyahu has demanded the unifil soldiers depart lebanon. He wants no witnesses.

 

   Then again, if Netanyahu would had requested that UNIFIL soldiers stay , then it would be because he wants to kill them as well 🙂

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Then again, if Netanyahu would had requested that UNIFIL soldiers stay , then it would be because he wants to kill them as well 🙂

Right, like the 'accidental' attacks on unifil earlier.

16 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Right, like the 'accidental' attacks on unifil earlier.

 

   They were told to get themselves out of the area, its their own fault for hanging about in a war zone after they were told to go away somewhere else 

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Nethanyahu has demanded the unifil soldiers depart lebanon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-pm-netanyahu-urges-un-evacuate-peacekeepers-combat-areas-lebanon-2024-10-13/

 

He wants no witnesses.

 

   You said Netanyahu "demanded"

The link that you posted said Netanyahu "urged".

Demand and urge are two different words with two different meanings 

If the UNIFIL forces had done their job properly and stopped Hezbollah terrorists from attacking Israel,  there wouldn't have been any need for Israelto cross the Blue Line.  

 

I'll believe in UNIFIL the day its units actually try to disarm Hezbollah, which is at best a private militia but in reality a terrorist group.  

On 10/13/2024 at 7:58 PM, stevenl said:

Nethanyahu has demanded the unifil soldiers depart lebanon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-pm-netanyahu-urges-un-evacuate-peacekeepers-combat-areas-lebanon-2024-10-13/

 

He wants no witnesses.

Indeed. 

 

https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/reports/detail/lebanon-five-journalists-and-media-workers-killed-since-the-war-started-in-gaza/category/press-releases

Lebanon: Five journalists and media workers killed since the war started in Gaza

Can he force journalists to get out, like he did in Gaza? 

 

 

Let’s not forget the atrocities in Gaza.

 

At least 34 Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks today

 

Our colleagues on the ground are reporting, quoting medical sources, that at least 34 people have been killed in Israeli air attacks across Gaza since dawn on Sunday.

This includes five children who were killed when an Israeli drone struck them as they were playing near a cafe in Shati refugee camp.

 

https://aje.io/epfyox?update=3244564

5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

I visited Lebanon way back in 1970 before the PLO invasion.  I was totally surprised by how tolerant and progressive it was.  Beirut had a nightlife scene that rivaled any European city.   Christians and Muslims lived in harmony with mutual respect.  The Lebanese Civil War destroyed all of that.

Some PLO relocated there but there was no invasion, as Israel are doing right now. 

Israel's support for certain Lebanese groups, like the Christian Phalangists, intensified the conflict. It was Israeli policies that ultimately led to the civil war, backed of course by the USA. 

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