2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"... this image does not come from Springfield. The photo can be found in a Reddit thread about Columbus, Ohio, and it was posted at least one month earlier than these viral claims. There is no evidence that this individual had any connection to Haiti."

 

Good God, man.  That proves it's even more widespread and been going on longer than we've been told?

 

That's what the "fact checkers" would conclude if it was Trump letting in all the Haitians.

 

 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Good God, man.  That proves it's even more widespread and been going on longer than we've been told?

 

That's what the "fact checkers" would conclude if it was Trump letting in all the Haitians.

Thanks for what's called a contrary-to-fact-statement. Or maybe you come from an alternate reality where this really happened?

DeWine reminds Ohioans there's 'no credible evidence' of immigrants eating pets

September 12th 2024

...

On Wednesday, [Ohio Gov.] DeWine was asked about Trump's having cited the false claim in front of a national television audience.

 

"My job is to tell what the facts are and what we're seeing," DeWine said. "And I rely frankly on Mayor Rue, the other officials in the county. Look, they're the ones who were there, they're the ones who know what's going on. They found no credible evidence of that story of Haitians eating pets."

 

https://www.abc3340.com/news/nation-world/ohio-gov-governor-mike-dewine-reminds-ohioans-no-credible-evidence-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-cats-dogs-animals-wildlife-springfield-trump-harris-debate-vance-false

 

The odds are that these are Canada Geese. Which are a pest. (The spelling of which is close to "pets".)

 

Canada geese causing problems for cities as experts struggle to reduce populations

While Canada geese are a national symbol(opens in a new tab), the animals can cause a lot of problems for the cities they reside in, leaving officials grappling to find solutions to mitigate their populations.

In recent decades, B.C.-based urban biodiversity planner Jennifer Rae Pierce says Canada geese have been derided as urban pests, overrunning new habitats across North America, especially in cities.

Pierce told CTV's Your Morning on Wednesday that the issue is not the migrating geese, but rather the "resident geese" that have, in some cases, taken up residence in urban areas year-round.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/2022/5/4/canada-geese-causing-problems-for-cities-as-experts-struggle-to-.html

 

More people should be eating them.

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Ohio man calls cops to report …

 

A Springfield, Ohio, resident on his way to work called 911 to report spotting four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park just two weeks ago, according to a newly revealed recording.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/us-news/springfield-ohio-man-reported-haitian-migrants-snatching-geese/

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2024/09/10/police_audio_report_confirm_haitian_goose-hunting_in_oh_631350.html

Thank you for drawing our attention to this very important topic!

BTW, no ducks attacked and oranges stolen? 😀

25 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Good God, man.  That proves it's even more widespread and been going on longer than we've been told?

 

That's what the "fact checkers" would conclude if it was Trump letting in all the Haitians.

 

 

 

There's no evidence the man in the photo has anything to do with the Haitian community, or what actually was going on in the photo, which was taken far away in Columbus, Ohio.

 

26 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

DeWine reminds Ohioans there's 'no credible evidence' of immigrants eating pets

September 12th 2024

...

On Wednesday, [Ohio Gov.] DeWine was asked about Trump's having cited the false claim in front of a national television audience.

 

"My job is to tell what the facts are and what we're seeing," DeWine said. "And I rely frankly on Mayor Rue, the other officials in the county. Look, they're the ones who were there, they're the ones who know what's going on. They found no credible evidence of that story of Haitians eating pets."

 

https://www.abc3340.com/news/nation-world/ohio-gov-governor-mike-dewine-reminds-ohioans-no-credible-evidence-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-cats-dogs-animals-wildlife-springfield-trump-harris-debate-vance-false

 

So just an opinion. Next

No...statements of FACT, not opinion.

 

The FACT being, as local officials there (city and county) have repeatedly said, they have and have found NO evidence to support/substantiate either the claims Trump made in the debate, or those made in the resident's phone call report to the county sheriff's communications center there.

 

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

When they scrape the barrel and all they can come up with is this lie, you start to realise (if you haven't already ) how desperate team Trump must be.

 

If you think that is sad there are millions of people in the USA and even a few here on AN that actually believe it

 

It must be true, because Trump says so and J D Vance agrees with it.

 

Based upon his debate rhetoric, one would think that Donald Trump is running for dog catcher of Springfield, Ohio.

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

No...statements of FACT, not opinion.

 

The FACT being, as local officials there (city and county) have repeatedly said, they have and have found NO evidence to support/substantiate either the claims Trump made in the debate, or those made in the resident's phone call report to the county sheriff's communications center there.

 

No evidence is an opinion. If i steal bread from a bin and nobody sees me there is no evidence. Doesnt mean it didnt happen.

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

DeWine reminds Ohioans there's 'no credible evidence' of immigrants eating pets

September 12th 2024

...

On Wednesday, [Ohio Gov.] DeWine was asked about Trump's having cited the false claim in front of a national television audience.

 

"My job is to tell what the facts are and what we're seeing," DeWine said. "And I rely frankly on Mayor Rue, the other officials in the county. Look, they're the ones who were there, they're the ones who know what's going on. They found no credible evidence of that story of Haitians eating pets."

 

https://www.abc3340.com/news/nation-world/ohio-gov-governor-mike-dewine-reminds-ohioans-no-credible-evidence-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-cats-dogs-animals-wildlife-springfield-trump-harris-debate-vance-false

 

 

I heard DeWine's interview on NPR radio today and he described the Haitian immigrant community as "hard working". He did mention that obtaining an Ohio driver's license did not require completing a driver's education course and that this was an issue with newcomers. But in general, he seemed to be welcoming of the Haitian immigrants.

11 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

I heard DeWine's interview on NPR radio today and he described the Haitian immigrant community as "hard working". He did mention that obtaining an Ohio driver's license did not require completing a driver's education course and that this was an issue with newcomers. But in general, he seemed to be welcoming of the Haitian immigrants.

 

 

Exactly:

 

Per CBS News' report:

 

"DeWine defended the thousands of Haitian migrants who are living in Springfield, but noted there are challenges that come with 15,000 migrants settling in city with a population of less than 60,000 in the last couple of years. 

 

"These Haitians came in here to work because there were jobs, and they filled a lot of jobs. And if you talk to employers, they've done a very, very good job and they work very, very hard," he said. 

...

The other challenge, he said, is teaching the new arrivals how to drive according to U.S. laws. He said Ohio has a loophole that allows drivers over 18 to pass a test to obtain a license without needing training." [which is the reason for state's forthcoming added state trooper support].

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-dewine-haitian-migrants-pets-springfield-trump/

 

And the Snopes report above provided detail on how the Haitians ended up settling in Springfield, and that most are legal residents under a special federal program, not illegals "sent" there as some Republicans have claimed.

Background

"Since 2020, Springfield, Ohio, has seen a dramatic rise in immigrants from Haiti. City officials estimate, according to The New York Times, that as many as 20,000 Haitians had arrived in the small town in 2024 since the onset of the pandemic.

 

Thanks to the availability of jobs, Springfield became a hot spot for Haitian immigrants around that time, according to reporting in NPR. According to The New York Times, the arrival of several manufacturing plants or corporations between 2017 and 2020 created a surplus of jobs. A lack of local labor created a deficit of workers, and word spread among the Haitian community that work could be found in the town, per the Times:
 

Quote

"Soon there were not enough workers. Many young, working-age people [from Springfield] had descended into addiction. Others shunned entry-level, rote work altogether, employers said. Haitians who heard that the Springfield area boasted well-paying, blue-collar jobs and a low cost of living poured in, and employers were eager to hire and train the new work force."

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cats-ducks-haitians-springfield/

 

 

14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

No, Haitian migrants aren’t ‘decapitating ducks’ in Springfield, Ohio | Fact check

Our rating: False

Sept. 11, 2024

 

There is no evidence Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, did any such thing. A spokesperson said the city hasn’t had any substantiated reports of ducks being killed, nor have there been any credible reports of other animals, including cats, being harmed.

No evidence of Haitian migrants harming ducks in Ohio city

Multiple officials in Springfield, a city of about 58,000 people in central Ohio, have said there is no evidence of Haitian migrants harming or eating any dogs, cats or other pets. Karen Graves, a spokesperson for the city, told USA TODAY that they “have not received any substantiated reports of duck mutilation.”

 

Jason Via, deputy director of public safety and operations for the Springfield Police Department, told NPR in August that police in the city have heard a variety of unfounded claims about Haitian migrants, and he specifically called out the claim about ducks supposedly being harmed in the city’s parks.

 

(more)

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/09/11/haitian-migrants-pets-ducks-ohio-fact-check/75177917007/

 

 

 

But Donald Trump says it so it must be true!

Gawd...the point isn't whether or not a pet has ever been eaten, the point is it's it was a lunatic rant that had no place in a presidential debate. If there are hungry people in Springfield the presidential candidate should be talking about how to get them fed 🙄

As mentioned on here, "why is Haiti a failed country without the interference of whites"?

Just look at how Zimbabwe and South Africa has prospered without colonial governments.

15 hours ago, riclag said:

Ohio man calls cops to report …

 

A Springfield, Ohio, resident on his way to work called 911 to report spotting four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park just two weeks ago, according to a newly revealed recording.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/us-news/springfield-ohio-man-reported-haitian-migrants-snatching-geese/

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2024/09/10/police_audio_report_confirm_haitian_goose-hunting_in_oh_631350.html

I wonder how many cats and dogs got snatched also... 

Any distraction to vote Republicans can do. Trump looks like an idiot on that debate. It looked like he was fumbling for answers. He’s too old to be present. He’s a cheat. He’s a liar. He has no more standards.

16 hours ago, riclag said:

four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park

 

OMG, Trump was right!

13 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Any distraction to vote Republicans can do. Trump looks like an idiot on that debate. It looked like he was fumbling for answers. He’s too old to be present. He’s a cheat. He’s a liar. He has no more standards.

 

I wonder who ties [Trump's] idiots shoes every morning before he goes out and sprouts his daily lies everywhere. I mean he  not has the intelligence to tie his own shoelaces.

 

You know Trump and Vance are flailing when they use claims like this one, to bolster the accusation of stir fried dog and breaded cat in Ohio. Harris did a good job of baiting this goon, and not only did he swallow the bait, he ran with it like a obedient partner and spun like a carousel at an amusement park. That was a good one, Don. 

I saw 2 Russians, or maybe Chinese, or maybe Americans, pushing a baby in a buggy the other day. They sure looked like they were going to eat the baby. I was on my way to work too. Funny coincidence.

3 minutes ago, tilaceer said:

Why?

Just now, Kinok Farang said:

Why?

Makes them feel like big men.
Small p3nis syndrome, just like daddy.

10 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I saw 2 Russians, or maybe Chinese, or maybe Americans, pushing a baby in a buggy the other day. They sure looked like they were going to eat the baby. I was on my way to work too. Funny coincidence.

You should have asked them to share.

MAGA world is really getting desperate trying to sell this nonsense.

 

 

16 hours ago, riclag said:

Ohio man calls cops to report …

 

A Springfield, Ohio, resident on his way to work called 911 to report spotting four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park just two weeks ago, according to a newly revealed recording.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/us-news/springfield-ohio-man-reported-haitian-migrants-snatching-geese/

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2024/09/10/police_audio_report_confirm_haitian_goose-hunting_in_oh_631350.html

 

2023-24 Proposed Hunting Seasons.pdf (ohio.gov)

Isn't goose hunting legal in Ohio?  Seems they may have been in season, but possibly no permit.......LOCK THEM UP!

39 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

He’s too old to be present

This may or may not be a typo.

I hear that Hannibal Lecter is endorsing Harris. It may be the cats and dogs thing. 🤷🏻‍♂️