Hybrid vs Turbo petrol new car choice.

[Pattaya420]

Hi. Buying new 2025 Civic.

There is choice Hybrid 2.0lL + electric motor vs 1.5 VTEC Turbo.

 

Hybrid there is 2 models regular one and RS sporty most expensive.

 

Basically Turbo is cheapest then add 100k u get basic hybrid it's like turbo but with electric engine. Add 200k u get hybrid RS.

 

I went Turbo just want hear from ppl with hybrid cars Thier experience as never had one.

 

That hybrid is bit faster but that's not a factor cuz if u really want u can tune up turbo easy change air filter only and it gets few HP more....

 

Fuel saving is not an goal too as I had 2.8L Fortuner before that.

 

Just want make sure Turbo model is good choice....

 

https://www.honda.co.th/en/civic

 

 

[KhunLA]

Whoa ... for this price  ฿1.23 Million, if accurate, you really need to go test drive some BEVs, before splashing out that amount.   I'll just leave at that, especially if performance is something you want, aside from the other advantages.

[Pattaya420]

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Whoa ... for this price  ฿1.23 Million, if accurate, you really need to go test drive some BEVs, before splashing out that amount.   I'll just leave at that, especially if performance is something you want, aside from the other advantages.

They got hybrid only for test drive.

Also there is promotion. They give u like 90k discount 

 

I did test hybrid. But it's just quick uturn ride can't tell much. Car quiet, accelerate fast. All u can tell.

Edited September 14 by Pattaya420

[JBChiangRai]

The Turbo is the better car, the Hybrid is a gimmick and too complicated.

 

If you really want power, have the ECU chip replaced, they are good for 200+hp, I wouldn't go too far beyond that as the gearbox is not up to it.

[Pattaya420]

10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The Turbo is the better car, the Hybrid is a gimmick and too complicated.

 

If you really want power, have the ECU chip replaced, they are good for 200+hp, I wouldn't go too far beyond that as the gearbox is not up to it.

Glad I went Turbo then.

Yeh garage shop told me air filter plus tune ECU.

 

But I think messing with ECU on new car voids guarantee so I might skip that. If anything change to performance air filter.

 

 

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

Ritter Tuning will retune the ECU without adding any parts, it's undetectable.

[Pattaya420]

8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Ritter Tuning will retune the ECU without adding any parts, it's undetectable.

I thought so it might be the case. Thx

 

Is it this one?

 

RPT Ritter Performance Tuning
080 550 2704

https://g.co/kgs/WLB9kZQ

[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, Pattaya420 said:

I thought so it might be the case. Thx

 

Is it this one?

 

RPT Ritter Performance Tuning
080 550 2704

https://g.co/kgs/WLB9kZQ

 

Yes

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

The Turbo is the better car, the Hybrid is a gimmick and too complicated.

 

If you really want power, have the ECU chip replaced, they are good for 200+hp, I wouldn't go too far beyond that as the gearbox is not up to it.

 

Agreed.

Have a friend with a chipped/modded turbo Civic..... it goes real good.

[Pattaya420]

It's like 15hp gain for ECU tune

3hp air filter

 

So 178hp stock to 197hp

Is it 15hp- 18hp noticable?

 

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, Pattaya420 said:

It's like 15hp gain for ECU tune

3hp air filter

 

So 178hp stock to 197hp

Is it 15hp- 18hp noticable?

 

 

Yes, it's very noticeable.

[kwak250]

We are still happy with our Civic Rs Turbo 2016 model

Not tuned it in any way and still is a great car .

Keep looking at changing it but apart from a newer version not really seen anything for the price that I would prefer.

Just coming up to 100k.

Keep looking at a BMW or Merc but the Civic is so cheap to service and nice to drive so might not change it just yet.

Keep looking at getting a Ford Raptor just concerned with reliability otherwise I would trade the Hilux Revo in for one.

 

[Pattaya420]

15 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

We are still happy with our Civic Rs Turbo 2016 model

Not tuned it in any way and still is a great car .

Keep looking at changing it but apart from a newer version not really seen anything for the price that I would prefer.

Just coming up to 100k.

Keep looking at a BMW or Merc but the Civic is so cheap to service and nice to drive so might not change it just yet.

Keep looking at getting a Ford Raptor just concerned with reliability otherwise I would trade the Hilux Revo in for one.

 

Don't buy Merc or BMW. Had it.

 

Civic is best car for this kind of money's.

[kwak250]

32 minutes ago, Pattaya420 said:

Don't buy Merc or BMW. Had it.

 

Civic is best car for this kind of money's.

Yes keep looking at different cars and when the time comes i will get another one
Not looked at getting it tuned as very rarely do i go over 160 usually stay around 120-130 
Had far too many tickets before so stick to around 125 and never get them now

[Pattaya420]

1 hour ago, kwak250 said:

Yes keep looking at different cars and when the time comes i will get another one
Not looked at getting it tuned as very rarely do i go over 160 usually stay around 120-130 
Had far too many tickets before so stick to around 125 and never get them now

Not as much top speed we talk about. It's just faster acceleration, that's more fun.

[kwak250]

29 minutes ago, Pattaya420 said:

Not as much top speed we talk about. It's just faster acceleration, that's more fun.

Might look into that.
What is the cost do you know?

[JBChiangRai]

I paid 30,000 baht to have my Merc increased by about 15%, I thought that was a bargain.

[Surasak]

I have a 2014 Civic. Possibly the best car I have ever owned. At 125K, the front seats recovered and window seals replaced. I have thought of a change, but with regular servicing and no problems, I can't see the point. As I get older my one objection is it being too low. 

[Irish star]

Honda will depreciate slowly good pick on Honda or Toyota 

[Irish star]

On 9/14/2024 at 4:01 PM, kwak250 said:

We are still happy with our Civic Rs Turbo 2016 model

Not tuned it in any way and still is a great car .

Keep looking at changing it but apart from a newer version not really seen anything for the price that I would prefer.

Just coming up to 100k.

Keep looking at a BMW or Merc but the Civic is so cheap to service and nice to drive so might not change it just yet.

Keep looking at getting a Ford Raptor just concerned with reliability otherwise I would trade the Hilux Revo in for one.

 

My friend just bought a Ford Ranger he wants his Toyota back 

[kwak250]

34 minutes ago, Irish star said:

My friend just bought a Ford Ranger he wants his Toyota back 

Was it the Raptor?

I wouldn't change my Toyota Revo for a Ranger Xlt/Wildtrak but would jump at the chance for the Raptor

[kwak250]

5 hours ago, Surasak said:

I have a 2014 Civic. Possibly the best car I have ever owned. At 125K, the front seats recovered and window seals replaced. I have thought of a change, but with regular servicing and no problems, I can't see the point. As I get older my one objection is it being too low. 

Get a lift kit and some bigger wheels.

I know what you mean I love my Civic RS 2016 model.

Not seen anything I would change it for apart from.a newer one and don't see the point.

[kwak250]

On 9/14/2024 at 7:57 PM, JBChiangRai said:

I paid 30,000 baht to have my Merc increased by about 15%, I thought that was a bargain.

That is very good

 

I will have a look into this.

[scotty1286]

I have the Accord 2.0l Hybrid and must admit I love it, especially the instant torque and fuel consumption is great.

Watched a youtube video on the power train breakdown into components (generator, electric motors etc) and the engineering is incredible.

 

Only thing I miss is normal engine revving and gear changes but with an automatic you don't really get that now anyway.

[DTL2014]

could have gone for the corolla hybrid -if AWD is important to you . or the GR ..but its more pricey

[pacovl46]

Apparently the resell value of hybrids is extremely bad. Also, a lot of manufacturers are doing away with them. You might wanna google that before tou make a decision. I'd personally go for the turbo. 

[Cameroni]

On 9/14/2024 at 7:27 AM, Pattaya420 said:

Hi. Buying new 2025 Civic.

There is choice Hybrid 2.0lL + electric motor vs 1.5 VTEC Turbo.

 

Hybrid there is 2 models regular one and RS sporty most expensive.

 

Basically Turbo is cheapest then add 100k u get basic hybrid it's like turbo but with electric engine. Add 200k u get hybrid RS.

 

I went Turbo just want hear from ppl with hybrid cars Thier experience as never had one.

 

That hybrid is bit faster but that's not a factor cuz if u really want u can tune up turbo easy change air filter only and it gets few HP more....

 

Fuel saving is not an goal too as I had 2.8L Fortuner before that.

 

Just want make sure Turbo model is good choice....

 

https://www.honda.co.th/en/civic

 

 

 

I owned the Lexus ES300h, it had good driving manners, the only disconcerting thing is the dead quiet, you do not know if the engine is on just by ear. So quiet it is almost eerie. But driving was good, economical. No issues.

 

I think the Civic is a great choice. Enjoy.

[crazykopite]

I have a Toyota cross hybrid 1800 cc super vehicle  before I had a Mitsubishi  lancer cost me 500 baht a week to run around in my cross costs me 600 baht a month as a runabout when I brought it down from the dealership to the island there was a 1,000 baht of fuel gifted to me I still had some left in the tank that was doing 600+ Kim’s plus I get free servicing only pay for parts  Happy Days, by the way if you end up with Turbo issues it’s very expensive to replace !

Edited September 18 by crazykopite

[patman30]

have you test driven both?
looks like the RS will giuve better performance and mileage
but if concerned about it being hybrid for any reason
why not get the Civic Type-R?

 

 

Edited September 18 by patman30

[Jitar]

The price of the type R in Thailand is probably the best reason not to get it.  

 

May be a good idea to be careful with tuning the 1.5 turbo.  They are pretty highly stressed from factory and in the past, some of these engines have had issues with head gaskets, oil dilution and carbon build up.  Hopefully Honda has resolved these problems for the current versions.