Are these people stark raving mad?

[earlinclaifornia]

14 hours ago, cdemundo said:

I have my doubts.

The fantasists who like to imagine killing unarmed people with their firearms would not have the steel in their spine to oppose law enforcement or military forces.

Like 12 year olds they like to imagine themselves fighting for all that is good (in their mind) but actually showing up and putting themselves in harms way?

I just have my doubts.

Thanks for expressing exacty how I see it as well.

[earlinclaifornia]

13 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I understand your thoughts but when you get high numbers encouraging each other convincing themselves they are on the side of right then it is likely. 
we will find out in a couple of months.

 

The Ununited States of America. 
Probably a good idea just to decide the country into two or more. 

So many died for the unification. Why suggest a split just becase we oppose the other side politically?

Get real, we are all still just the same only acting out a preference.

[earlinclaifornia]

6 hours ago, rasg said:

It's going to get very ugly but not in the way you think. Which crimes are you referring to, by the way? Do you mean the supposed rape of E Jean Carroll where the jury awarded $85 million dollars to a woman who could even remember the year or month that the rape supposedly took place? She'd had made at least six similar allegations too over the years against others.

How about the one where Trump house was raided? That case was thrown out. How many non crimes do you think it takes before a rational person would think, "there is something off with all of these allegations"? Some decades old. Why this year just before an election? Use some critical thinking. It will help you no end. I guarantee that each and every one of the cases against Trump will be won on appeal.

You seem really distressed today. So much happened so long ago, that you are now whailing away! Where were you then?

[bradiston]

22 hours ago, harryviking said:

When you have politicians not responding to the voice

of the people and the people feel threatened by illegal migrants that no one have any control over, they get desperate and join the only ones that seems to react against the government, the Right Wing Groups! The same is now happening in Europe!! If the useless and spineless politicians do not change their way, they might be in for an unpleasant surprize very soon! The first one being a certain Yellow man winning the election exactly because of this.

I don't remember inviting Vikings into England way back when. Rape, mass pillage, destruction was all they brought. Probably ate all the pets too.

[MalcolmB]

10 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

yes but they don't turn up in full battle dress trying to storm the House of Commons because they lost an Election.

They are stark raving mad.

If Trump does win, they will feel empowered.

Trump is not stark raving mad but he knows he needs these people on side to win so he will promise them what they want, or at least allude to giving them what they want.

[BarraMarra]

Anyone or any media that questions Trump is disrespected by him and his cohorts. Accusing them  of forming a witch hunt against him and they believe it. From paid hookers to top judges they are called liars. If Trump told his fans the world was flat they would believe him, he would even tell them we have all been lied to the Earth is not round its flat and they would believe him.

Edited September 22 by BarraMarra

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Anyone or any media that questions Trump is disrespected by him and his cohorts. Accusing them  of forming a witch hunt against him and they believe it. From paid hookers to top judges they are called liars. If Trump told his fans the world was flat they would believe him, he would even tell them we have all been lied to the Earth is not round its flat and they would believe him.

Vance made a point of saying it was fine to lie if it was in a good cause, like winning the election. My jaw fell on the floor. Just what kind of a cxxx is he?

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

Vance made a point of saying it was fine to lie if it was in a good cause, like winning the election. My jaw fell on the floor. Just what kind of a cxxx is he?

The worse kind imaginable and if Trump takes power again it's probable that clearly rapidly deteriorating Trump won't make it through his term. Red Alert! Danger Will Robinson!

[Will B Good]

18 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Vance made a point of saying it was fine to lie if it was in a good cause, like winning the election. My jaw fell on the floor. Just what kind of a cxxx is he?

 

 

They don't care....and Trump has (cleverly/despicably?) engineered this situation over a number of years where lying has become a nothing burger to the American public.

 

Vance said a Springfield resident’s cat was stolen and eaten. Instead, it was hiding - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-pet-claims-springfield-ohio-b2615009.html

[Cameroni]

32 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The worse kind imaginable and if Trump takes power again it's probable that clearly rapidly deteriorating Trump won't make it through his term. Red Alert! Danger Will Robinson!

 

If that were to be the case the left would have a real nightmare on their hands, by all accounts JD Vance is far more ideologically extreme, zealous and serious than Trump will ever be.

 

I wonder if in a few years the left will look back upon the days of Trump as that wistful period when times were far more relaxed.

[cjinchiangrai]

On 9/21/2024 at 9:37 AM, MalcolmB said:

Documentary looks at USA war veterans and the reasons why so many are joining the many far right groups who will not accept the result if Harris wins the upcoming election.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/featured-documentaries/2024/9/19/against-all-enemies

 

If Harris wins there will be bloodshed.

There might be bloodshed but it would be at the hands of the losers. Losers like Trump, Losers like the militia gun nuts. Losers like the criminals of Jan 6. All to support a criminal in his efforts to avoid prison for a lifetime of criminal activity.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If that were to be the case the left would have a real nightmare on their hands, by all accounts JD Vance is far more ideologically extreme, zealous and serious than Trump will ever be.

 

I wonder if in a few years the left will look back upon the days of Trump as that wistful period when times were far more relaxed.

Stop saying this is only about the left!

Is Liz Cheney the left?!?

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Stop saying this is only about the left!

Is Liz Cheney the left?!?

 

No, fair point, she is the spawn of the greatest warmonger America ever brought forth in our lifetime.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop saying this is only about the left!

Is Liz Cheney the left?!?

Was is it about Americans specifically that makes them so gullible to lies that can be fact checked?

 

It is the conspiracy theory capital of the world, the only advanced country where the majority believe in the Christian nonsense and the only place that someone like Trump could become President.

 

Whats wrong with you people?

[bradiston]

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, fair point, she is the spawn of the greatest warmonger America ever brought forth in our lifetime.

 

 

Bush, I guess.

[bradiston]

Don't cry for me California
The truth is, I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance

 

RIP
 

[Will B Good]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Was is it about Americans specifically that makes them so gullible to lies that can be fact checked?

 

It is the conspiracy theory capital of the world, the only advanced country where the majority believe in the Christian nonsense and the only place that someone like Trump could become President.

 

Whats wrong with you people?

 

 

It is endlessly fascinating that they have ended up like this.......and to be honest......not a word many like....much of it is down to one man and one man alone. 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

 

It is endlessly fascinating that they have ended up like this.......and to be honest......not a word many like....much of it is down to one man and one man alone. 

 

 

Trump will just appeal to anyone who he thinks will vote for him.

He has no ideology or moral compass.

He is popular because there are tens of millions of fruit cakes there, who don’t base their beliefs on any science.

it is fascinating that a country that has come up with so much scientific research has so many nutters, people that can not think past a headline. 
 

Maybe it is something in the water? I think Christianity has a lot to do with it, brainwashed the sheeple not to actually think for themselves?

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Trump will just appeal to anyone who he thinks will vote for him.

He has no ideology or moral compass.

He is popular because there are tens of millions of fruit cakes there, who don’t base their beliefs on any science.

it is fascinating that a country that has come up with so much scientific research has so many nutters, people that can not think past a headline. 
 

Maybe it is something in the water? I think Christianity has a lot to do with it, brainwashed the sheeple not to actually think for themselves?

 

 

At the root of all this is evolution......we have evolved to want someone else to lead, to control our lives, someone else to carry the responsibility.....Jesus, Mohammad, Hitler, Stalin....."God" forbid we think for ourselves and take responsibility for our own outcomes.

[MalcolmB]

14 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

At the root of all this is evolution......we have evolved to want someone else to lead, to control our lives, someone else to carry the responsibility.....Jesus, Mohammad, Hitler, Stalin....."God" forbid we think for ourselves and take responsibility for our own outcomes.

It is incredible that they can say this stuff with a straight face.

 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

31 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Bush, I guess.

Dick Cheney, the man that trumped up wars against Iraq and Afghanistan. He and Bush made a lot of money though.

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

It is incredible that they can say this stuff with a straight face.

 

 

 

 

Sorry.....I tried to watch it......played a few snippets.....that was almost too much for me.

 

 

WT......???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 22 by Will B Good

[MalcolmB]

25 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Sorry.....I tried to watch it......played a few snippets.....that was almost too much for me.

 

 

WT......???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry Will.

 

[MarkBR]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

It is endlessly fascinating that they have ended up like this.......and to be honest......not a word many like....much of it is down to one man and one man alone. 

 

 

H.L. Mencken quote: Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

[radiochaser]

On 9/20/2024 at 10:37 PM, MalcolmB said:

Documentary looks at USA war veterans and the reasons why so many are joining the many far right groups who will not accept the result if Harris wins the upcoming election.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/featured-documentaries/2024/9/19/against-all-enemies

 

If Harris wins there will be bloodshed.

How many times in the past 60 years has there been violence by left wing groups that has shed blood?
How many times in the past 60 years has there been violence by right wing groups that has shed blood?

Edited September 22 by radiochaser

[bendejo]

10 hours ago, bradiston said:

Vance made a point of saying it was fine to lie if it was in a good cause, like winning the election. My jaw fell on the floor. Just what kind of a cxxx is he?

 

I interpreted that (you mean the TV interview with Dana Bash on Sept. 15, right?) as him griping that he puts a lot of hard work into coming up with these cockamamie stories, and that she should show some respect for that.  I developed an appreciation for Bash when, after DT's first debate with Biden in 2020 the first thing out of her mouth when the debate ended was "that was a sh_t show."  Oh those Jersey girls!

There is another highly ridiculous aspect to this thing about applauding Ivy League graduates.  The conservative media will go on into perpetuity about how US universities are incubators for the left, communist, Marxist (enter flavors of the day here), while at the same time lauding their members who have degrees from such institutions (Ted Cruz, Hawley, JD, and lots more) who they brand as scholars and true US conservatives, even as they come out with the dumbest statements to support their current deity.  Also in recent years the right-wing has been denouncing education, part of their dumbing-down strategy, and looking at the MAGA numbers it seems to be working.

 

[bendejo]

8 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Dick Cheney, the man that trumped up wars against Iraq and Afghanistan. He and Bush made a lot of money though.

 

Might also want to consider he's prepping for 2028 when his daughter will be running against Kamala.  Any words regarding his love of country qualifies as pure Wyoming horse manure.  The truth about this guy won't be revealed until most of us in this forum will be long gone.  And every potential biographer knows better than to take him/his on.

 

[rasg]

18 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

usual pathetic response

It very valid. The Guardian is a very left wing daily toilet roll. What do you expect them to say? Seriously.

[rasg]

18 hours ago, simple1 said:

trump also called the media "enemy of the people' when reporting factually. How about doing some fact checking before posting trump / MAGA BS.

And he is 100% right. Check out Operation Mockingbird though I doubt you'll bother. Does it not strike you as odd that every attack from the media has been coordinated for years and most of their ratings have gone down the toilet in the last few years?

[rasg]

18 hours ago, placeholder said:

True, but given that he's still claiming that the 2020 election was stolen, despite the absence of valid evidence, it's a pretty safe bet that, if he loses, it will be more of the same.

When the left have got the media and a large part of the court system in its pocket it's fairly easy to get the results you want. You have some surprises coming in the next few months that will turn your brain to mush.