Kamala Harris Blames Trump Policies for Deaths of Two Georgia Women

[mdr224]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes you have.

 

You droning on with the same message since you signed up doesn’t make it so.

Maybe theres something i dont understand then about the UK though. Are all the muslims in that country not as a result of liberal policies? You people are masochists. Fortunately the posters here dont have a say in american politics or we too would be taken over by sharia law

[HappyExpat57]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

My former wife and myself agreed she should abort her third pregnancy for physical and mental health reasons. That decision has troubled us both ever since. Not a subject to be taken lightly, and certainly not a subject to be used to score political points.

This is NOT merely "scoring political points." She is trying to make people aware of just what is at stake! The GOP loser and his VP pick have openly stated again and again how they are all about a nationwide abortion ban - period. Lately they've toned that down (read LIED about it) because they are now realizing what a toxic stance they have.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, mdr224 said:

Maybe theres something i dont understand then about the UK though. Are all the muslims in that country not as a result of liberal policies? You people are masochists. Fortunately the posters here dont have a say in american politics or we too would be taken over by sharia law

What on earth are you on about.

 

UK?

Muslims?

Sharia law?

You people?

Masochists?

 

What has any of that random nonsense got to do with the topic of discussion?

 

Refer to the top of the thread for a clue as to the topic under discussion:

 

“Kamala Harris Blames Trump Policies for Deaths of Two Georgia Women”

 

[JCauto]

10 hours ago, Tug said:

She’s 100% correct on that one not to mention the way he bungled the Covid response I’ve seen estimates of 200 thousand + preventable deaths for just that blunder…….

 

That's a BIG under-estimation.

 

"Across 3,127 counties in the U.S., 620,872 estimated excess deaths occurred during the first year of the pandemic (March 2020 to February 2021), and 538,708 estimated excess deaths occurred during the second year (March 2021 to February 2022). This equals a total of 1,159,580 excess deaths during the first two years of the pandemic."

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9094106/#:~:text=Across 3%2C127 counties in the,March 2021 to February 2022).

[billd766]

10 hours ago, PuiPuiHarry said:

Sorry, but./.. why we should have to read so much about the US election at a Thai website ?

This thread is in the world news.

 

You may not be interested but other posters are.

 

The easy way not to read the thread is simply to skip over it.

 

Perhaps you should be more selective in what you read on AN.

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

That's a BIG under-estimation.

 

"Across 3,127 counties in the U.S., 620,872 estimated excess deaths occurred during the first year of the pandemic (March 2020 to February 2021), and 538,708 estimated excess deaths occurred during the second year (March 2021 to February 2022). This equals a total of 1,159,580 excess deaths during the first two years of the pandemic."

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9094106/#:~:text=Across 3%2C127 counties in the,March 2021 to February 2022).

Lots of death could have been avoided if he wasn't lackadaisical in managing the early stages of the pandemic. Quite shocking that USA, a highly developed country lead the world in COVID-19 deaths. 

[frank83628]

11 hours ago, PuiPuiHarry said:

Sorry, but./.. why we should have to read so much about the US election at a Thai website ?

especially MEN talking about abortions, mind you, i think the Harris supporters here are only half

Edited 8 hours ago by frank83628

[Tug]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What on earth are you on about.

 

UK?

Muslims?

Sharia law?

You people?

Masochists?

 

What has any of that random nonsense got to do with the topic of discussion?

 

Refer to the top of the thread for a clue as to the topic under discussion:

 

“Kamala Harris Blames Trump Policies for Deaths of Two Georgia Women”

 

Not to worry chomper they will get (it’s) programming straightened out (it) seemed to glitch on that one.lol 

[Tug]

3 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

That's a BIG under-estimation.

 

"Across 3,127 counties in the U.S., 620,872 estimated excess deaths occurred during the first year of the pandemic (March 2020 to February 2021), and 538,708 estimated excess deaths occurred during the second year (March 2021 to February 2022). This equals a total of 1,159,580 excess deaths during the first two years of the pandemic."

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9094106/#:~:text=Across 3%2C127 counties in the,March 2021 to February 2022).

To think of why that mentality I’ll man wouldn’t wear a mask……because it would smudge his MAKEUP!!people died because he was worried about his MAKEUP!!that’s just grotesque alpha male indeed…….flush the orange tu@d ditch the albatross!!

[wwest5829]

13 hours ago, PuiPuiHarry said:

Sorry, but./.. why we should have to read so much about the US election at a Thai website ?

Certainly agree that it should be limited to listing under “World News”.

[stoner]

9 hours ago, mdr224 said:

Maybe theres something i dont understand then about the UK though. Are all the muslims in that country not as a result of liberal policies? You people are masochists. Fortunately the posters here dont have a say in american politics or we too would be taken over by sharia law

 

what ? as much as i don't really like liberals right now you have to know this comment is a little off right ?  muslims have been immigrating to western countries for decades. 

 

don't have a say in american politics = taken over by sharia law. ahhhhh did my wife send you some of our last crop ?

[Will B Good]

10 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

My former wife and myself agreed she should abort her third pregnancy for physical and mental health reasons. That decision has troubled us both ever since. Not a subject to be taken lightly, and certainly not a subject to be used to score political points.

.....in the way Trump did?

[Will B Good]

9 hours ago, mdr224 said:

Maybe theres something i dont understand then about the UK though. Are all the muslims in that country not as a result of liberal policies? You people are masochists. Fortunately the posters here dont have a say in american politics or we too would be taken over by sharia law

 

I give in...... Fox? No Tik Tok or maybe you're a Tommy Robinson fan?

 

Surely you aren't dumb enough to read the Daily Express and/or the Daily Mail? 

 

 

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Lots of death could have been avoided if he wasn't lackadaisical in managing the early stages of the pandemic. Quite shocking that USA, a highly developed country lead the world in COVID-19 deaths. 

yeah to blame Trump, those figure were manipulated to make every death a covid death, big difference of dying WITH covid or OF covid!! (but that is a different topic altogether)

Trump did whatever advised at the time, got the usns Comfort in straight away, it only treated 182 patients in 3.5 weeks, (not many for such a deadly virus), what ever he talked about, the Demorats and msm said the opposite. he tried to stop travel from China, the dems all running round like headless chicken calling him xenophobic. the NYC death were on Cuomo, for putting covid patients together. the states were allowed to act independently. more died under Biden, and he had the vaccine.

 

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/27/hospital-ship-comfort-ends-nyc-covid-19-mission-after-treating-182-patients

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

yeah to blame Trump, those figure were manipulated to make every death a covid death, big difference of dying WITH covid or OF covid!! (but that is a different topic altogether)

Trump did whatever advised at the time, got the usns Comfort in straight away, it only treated 182 patients in 3.5 weeks, (not many for such a deadly virus), what ever he talked about, the Demorats and msm said the opposite. he tried to stop travel from China, the dems all running round like headless chicken calling him xenophobic. the NYC death were on Cuomo, for putting covid patients together. the states were allowed to act independently. more died under Biden, and he had the vaccine.

 

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/27/hospital-ship-comfort-ends-nyc-covid-19-mission-after-treating-182-patients

 

 

What do you think caused these spikes in excess deaths?.....let's agree it wasn't covid 19........ so that issue doesn't muddy the waters.

 

Could it be wearing masks?

Staying at home?

Not going on holiday?

 

 

 

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

What do you think caused these spikes in excess deaths?.....let's agree it wasn't covid 19........ so that issue doesn't muddy the waters.

 

Could it be wearing masks?

Staying at home?

Not going on holiday?

 

 

 

off topic, i was replying top another poster. start a covid thread if you like

[Hanaguma]

8 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This is NOT merely "scoring political points." She is trying to make people aware of just what is at stake! The GOP loser and his VP pick have openly stated again and again how they are all about a nationwide abortion ban - period. Lately they've toned that down (read LIED about it) because they are now realizing what a toxic stance they have.

No, they havent.  Both are in favour of each state deciding for itself.  Plus, I am still waiting to hear what Harris/Walz think is appropriate. All they do is spout bromides and euphemisms. At what point do THEY think abortion should not be allowed? Keeping in mind the usual exceptions (rape, incest, possible death of the mother).  

 

The law in Georgia, from what I read, had nothing to do with these two sad situations.  But perhaps the perception of the law, as spread by the corporate media, contributed to their deaths.  

[Hanaguma]

If you are interested, here is the Trump position on abortion, as taken from his website;

 

We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments).

[Cameroni]

16 hours ago, Social Media said:

ice President Kamala Harris is holding former President Donald Trump accountable for the deaths of two women in Georgia,

 

Cheap political point scoring off the backs of the deceased, this woman can't sink any lower. Utterly disgusting.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

51 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Cheap political point scoring off the backs of the deceased, this woman can't sink any lower. Utterly disgusting.

 

 

And yet she’s right.

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet she’s right.

 

You mean apart from the fact that Trump didn't ban abortion in Georgia?

[Jingthing]

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You mean apart from the fact that Trump didn't ban abortion in Georgia?

Trump's actions killed Roe vs. Wade and he has openly taken credit for that.

If Roe v. Wade stood as it should have stood, no state would have abortion laws as restrictive as Georgia. But you knew that already right?!?

[Chomper Higgot]

28 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You mean apart from the fact that Trump didn't ban abortion in Georgia?

No he didn’t.

 

He appointed rightwing religious zealots to the SCOTUS, they removed the protections women had under Rowe V Wade and set it up for Georgia to enact laws that not only banned abortion but threatened Doctors with severe penalties  for providing the healthcare these women needed.

 

Oh and incase you missed it, Trump bragged about it.

 

[mogandave]

Kamala’s a liar, and the leftist press (redundant) covers for her. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No he didn’t.

 

He appointed rightwing religious zealots to the SCOTUS, they removed the protections women had under Rowe V Wade and set it up for Georgia to enact laws that not only banned abortion but threatened Doctors with severe penalties  for providing the healthcare these women needed.

 

Oh and incase you missed it, Trump bragged about it.

 

Trump and his followers think the public is so stupid that they believe that killing Roe vs. Wade was what "everyone" wanted. Only extremists wanted that. In fact, the sleazy justices that helped kill it lied at their senate confirmation hearings about how they would view Roe vs. Wade as set precedent.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Jingthing

[Cameroni]

34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No he didn’t.

 

He appointed rightwing religious zealots to the SCOTUS, they removed the protections women had under Rowe V Wade and set it up for Georgia to enact laws that not only banned abortion but threatened Doctors with severe penalties  for providing the healthcare these women needed.

 

Oh and incase you missed it, Trump bragged about it.

 

 

Causation has to be a bit more immediate, Trump is not responsible for how free and independent minded judges interpret the law

[Cameroni]

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump's actions killed Roe vs. Wade and he has openly taken credit for that.

If Roe v. Wade stood as it should have stood, no state would have abortion laws as restrictive as Georgia. But you knew that already right?!?

 

Causation here is too remote, Trump is not a judge and he cannot be held responsible for how free and independent judges interpret the law.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Causation here is too remote, Trump is not a judge and he cannot be held responsible for how free and independent judges interpret the law.

You really think we're dumb, huh?

Trump ran on a platform of picking judges that would kill Roe vs. Wade.

It's impossible to believe that you didn't know that.

You know, I've had enough of this. BYE!

[Cameroni]

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You really think we're dumb, huh?

Trump ran on a platform of picking judges that would kill Roe vs. Wade.

It's impossible to believe that you didn't know that.

You know, I've had enough of this. BYE!

 

It is impossible to believe that you could ever provide a link that would establish that Trump ran on a platform of picking judges that woujld kill Roe vs Wade.