Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants with sexual assault, murder convictions roaming US

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Some of the other bogus anti-immigrant nonsense topics inspired by Trump lately and dutifully posted to this forum by his sycophants:

 

"PolitiFact has debunked numerous claims about immigrants and crime:

 

There’s no evidence Haitian immigrants are eating pets, wildlife in Springfield

...

A Venezuelan gang takeover in Aurora, Colorado? City officials, residents say no

...

Reports about 32 Venezuelan armed migrants taking over a Chicago building are fake"

...

 

etc. etc. etc.

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/sep/27/whats-behind-recent-false-claims-about-immigrants/

 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[SingAPorn]

Same in Europe and recently another innocent young college student murdered and raped by a illegal migrant as France was not able to expel the chap despite his heavy past and sentencing for rape and violence. The consular pass did not arrive in time that is a document needed to expel foreigners as they destroy their passports beforehand.

 

By letting the borders open, by allowing those left wing woke XXL ships to assist the migrants and bring them in Europe and not plainly rescuing the migrands but sending them back to their port of origin, Europe is destroying itself, it's identity and putting it's people at risk. The EU has reached it's limits and is plainly a servant of NATO and the USA.

Edited 4 hours ago by SingAPorn

[Inderpland]

4 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Same in Europe and recently another innocent young college student murdered and raped by a illegal migrant as France was not able to expel the chap despite his heavy past and sentencing for rape and violence. The consular pass did not arrive in time that is a document needed to expel foreigners as they destroy their passports beforehand.

 

By letting the borders open, by allowing those left wing woke XXL ships to assist the migrants and bring them in Europe and not plainly rescuing the migrands but sending them back to their port of origin, Europe is destroying itself, it's identity and putting it's people at risk. The EU has reached it's limits and is plainly a servant of NATO and the USA.

Don't forget the international cabal of blood drinking and baby eating dems led by the anti-christ himself, Soros!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Also, as best as I can read the ICE communication contained within the Fox News report that's linked in the OP, the ICE document does NOT seem to indicate WHEN all the supposed undocumented immigrants with criminal histories in their count came into the U.S. or what period of time/years their count covers.

 

Does the count reflect entries during the Biden admin, during the Trump admin, or even prior?  On its face, the ICE communication doesn't seem to say.

 

But the document does say in regards to recent activity:

 

"From mid-May 2023 through the end of July 2024, DHS removed or returned more than 893,600 individuals, including more than 138,300 individuals in family units. The majority of all individuals encountered at the Southwest Border over the past three years have been removed, returned, or expelled." [emphasis added]

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tens-thousands-illegal-immigrants-sexual-assault-homicide-convictions-roaming-us-streets

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Keep Right]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Non citizens can't and don't vote.

Latinos are not a democratic party monolith.

So you're spreading misinformation. 

It appears that you are not doing your research:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/143-democrats-let-noncitizens-vote/

 

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

It appears that you are not doing your research:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/143-democrats-let-noncitizens-vote/

 

 

Bull. Shame on you.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Not like the Republicans and Fox/Hannity haven't presented misleading data and made false claims on crimes and undocumented immigrants before....

 

 

March 23, 2018

 

"Four years ago, then-Gov. Rick Perry misrepresented state-posted numbers and inaccurately claimed that thousands of Texas murders had lately been committed by unauthorized immigrants.

 

More recently, Fox News commentator Sean Hannity drew our attention when he dipped into the same pool of figures on his March 7, 2018 program...

...

A couple of outside criminologists who reviewed the DPS-posted information at our request told us the presented tally of charges--not convictions--did not support Perry’s attribution of homicides to immigrants.

 

(more)

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/mar/23/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-642000-crimes-committed-immigrants-il/

 

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

26 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

It appears that you are not doing your research:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/143-democrats-let-noncitizens-vote/

 

 

Recently a migrant  crime bill came to the floor of the house and passed but unfortunately for dems, 158 voted against it!!I ‘d love to see Nancy 

Mace the Gop sponsor of the crime bill

hook these dems up in a Trump campaign Swing State advertisement tying them and thousands upon thousands of convicted murderers being allowed in! It would be disastrous for their future office hopes imop.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list158-dems-voted-against-sex-crime-ban-immigrants-1956261

Edited 3 hours ago by riclag

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

Horse sh!t.  Illegals are not allowed to vote so don't spread lies

 

They're not allowed to rape or murder people, either.  But here we are...

 

Arizona provides a case study for the long-running attempts by Republicans to prohibit noncitizen voting.

 

Under a 2004 voter-approved initiative, Arizona required a driver’s license, birth certificate, passport or other similar document to approve a federal voter registration application. But the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that Arizona cannot require documentary proof of citizenship for people to vote in federal elections.

 

The state responded by creating two classes of voters. For state and local elections, voters must provide proof of citizenship when they register or have it on file with the state. But because that cannot be required in presidential and congressional elections, tens of thousands of voters who have not provided proof of citizenship are registered only for federal elections.

 

Just wondering how Arizona (or any state for that matter) can pinky swear that non-citizens are not voting in federal elections if they can't even confirm whether they're citizens?

 

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/elections/2024/illegal-voting-by-noncitizens-is-rare-yet-republicans-are-making-it-a-major-issue-this-election/

 

 

[Inderpland]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

They're not allowed to rape or murder people, either.  But here we are...

Yes, and legals aren't allowed to shoot school children either. But here we are....

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

Yes, and legals aren't allowed to shoot school children either. But here we are....

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

[Inderpland]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

I'm pretty sure someone from the right has looked long and hard at this already, because that would have been gold for the MAGA movement.

And since there's nothing out there it's quite easy to come to the conclusion that your imaginations are incorrect.

[Dan O]

59 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

Keep grabbing at straws. Just because there's a law doesn't mean it is happening, certainly in any significant numbers. Im sure if you check you'll find illegal votes for Republicans as well in the same quantities.

 

Show some proof of NGO's providing ID to illegals. You really are struggling to have validity 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Also, as best as I can read the ICE communication contained within the Fox News report that's linked in the OP, the ICE document does NOT seem to indicate WHEN all the supposed undocumented immigrants with criminal histories in their count came into the U.S. or what period of time/years their count covers.

 

Does the count reflect entries during the Biden admin, during the Trump admin, or even prior?  On its face, the ICE communication doesn't seem to say.

 

 

A bit more clarity now on the question of arrival timing regarding the undocumented individuals recently reported by ICE as having criminal histories, per NBC News:

 

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide here or abroad are living freely in the U.S., ICE says

Two law enforcement officials familiar with the data said many of the migrants on the ICE list crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations.

 

Sept. 28, 2024

...

"It is not clear when the first migrant of the 13,000 crossed into the U.S. Two law enforcement officials familiar with the data told NBC News many of the migrants on ICE’s non-detained docket, including serious criminals, crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations, including former President Donald Trump’s."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/13000-immigrants-convicted-homicide-living-freely-us-ice-data-rcna173125

 

Maybe Trump and Co. ought to be a bit more careful before they continue pointing the blame finger at others regarding undocumented immigrants with criminal histories.