Aftermath of Hurricane Helene: Power Outages, Rescue Efforts, and Rising Death Toll

[Walker88]

22 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

At least he showed up.

 

Biden was busy sunning himself on the beach in Delaware. Kamala was shmoozing with her rich Hollywood friends in California.

He showed up to what end?

 

Give a speech praising the 'great Hannibal Lecter'?

 

Toss rolls of paper towels, like he did in Puerto Rico?

 

Tell survivors he would have nuked the hurricane?

 

Or just get in the way of real search and rescue efforts?

 

Leaders who actually care, stay away from disaster zones until their visit wouldn't disrupt actual S&R.

 

Did Laura Loomer wear a "I don't care; do you?" jacket like the former FL did when going---days after the event---to the devastation in Texas? Why did the felon wait a few days back then, but insist on going to the Helene devastation immediately?

 

Please don't pretend you are so naive as to believe the felon actually gives a flying fxxx that anyone died or is suffering.

 

It was a campaign stop, nothing more, nothing less.

[Chomper Higgot]

So what would a second ‘Trump Presidency’ deliver on disaster aid?

 

Well it won’t be Trump tossing paper towels:

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/project-2025-would-leave-hurricane-helene-survivors-with-little-disaster-aid/

[impulse]

19 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The classic example of Elon not delivering on a performance promise.

 

Anyway, it was a subsidy that got cancelled, not any hardware.

 

If they don't work, why is FEMA making such a big deal out of sending a couple of dozen of them? 

 

Meanwhile, Musk has donated 500 units, sending them to a deplorable (a NASCAR driver, even.  Yuck), who is going to distribute them using his own helicopter.

 

https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-uses-starlink-access-in-north-carolina-to-slam-fcc-support-trump

 

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/10/500-starlink-kits-donated-for-post-hurricane-north-carolina-communications.html

 

[Danderman123]

34 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If they don't work, why is FEMA making such a big deal out of sending a couple of dozen of them? 

 

Meanwhile, Musk has donated 500 units, sending them to a deplorable (a NASCAR driver, even.  Yuck), who is going to distribute them using his own helicopter.

 

https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-uses-starlink-access-in-north-carolina-to-slam-fcc-support-trump

 

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/10/500-starlink-kits-donated-for-post-hurricane-north-carolina-communications.html

 

Let's recap the bidding:

 

SpaceX applied for a Starlink subsidy, promising a certain performance.

 

In 2023, FCC took away because Starlink did not meet the promised performance.

 

However, FEMA and other organizations use Starlink, just at a lower performance level, and with no subsidy.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies trolling about an imaginary medical condition have been removed.

[morrobay]

FEMA is under funded. Suppose the Billions down that Ukraine rabbit hole, or the millions supporting illegal immigrants has any thing to do with that?  And all the irrelevant anti Trump mumbo jumbo does not change the facts

 

 

 

Edited October 3 by morrobay

[impulse]

On 10/2/2024 at 9:42 AM, Danderman123 said:

Let's recap the bidding:

 

SpaceX applied for a Starlink subsidy, promising a certain performance.

 

In 2023, FCC took away because Starlink did not meet the promised performance.

 

Funny.  Boeing and Raytheon miss contract promises all the time, and they get funded. 

 

You sure it's not because they're mad at Elon? 

 

And did I mention, people are dying because of lack of communication? 

 

BTW, how many Americans have been hooked up so far to the Harris/Biden $42Billion broadband project?   That's $42 Billion with a B.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/26/tech/broadband-infrastructure-biden/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 3 by impulse

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, morrobay said:

FEMA is under funded. Suppose the Billions down that Ukraine rabbit hole, or the millions supporting illegal immigrants has any thing to do with that?  And all the irrelevant anti Trump mumbo jumbo does not change the facts

 

 

 

Nope.

 

It's because of Republicans in Congress.

 

You know, the ones who voted against FEMA funding two days before the hurricane hit.

[Danderman123]

On 10/1/2024 at 8:05 PM, impulse said:

 

If they don't work, why is FEMA making such a big deal out of sending a couple of dozen of them? 

 

Meanwhile, Musk has donated 500 units, sending them to a deplorable (a NASCAR driver, even.  Yuck), who is going to distribute them using his own helicopter.

 

https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-uses-starlink-access-in-north-carolina-to-slam-fcc-support-trump

 

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/10/500-starlink-kits-donated-for-post-hurricane-north-carolina-communications.html

 

To be clear, Starlink works.

 

The issue was level of performance.

[billd766]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:20 AM, Danderman123 said:

Dozens of Starlink systems deployed for Hurricane Helene by Biden administration

 

FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell is On the Ground in North Carolina, Biden-Harris Administration Actively Responding and Providing Life-Saving Support

 

It would be helpful if you knew what was going on.

But then he would have to find something else to whine about.

[connda]

I've got the ticket - Send more billions of dollars to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan.
Show the folks in hurricane ravaged USA the love you have for them - let them know where US citizens are in the priority of the Democrat Party and the Biden Administration.

"Ah, at the bottom of the barrel?" 
"Exactly."

[connda]

On 10/1/2024 at 5:45 AM, Social Media said:

Despite the aid that has arrived in Canton, Smathers worries that connectivity issues have prevented proper coordination, which may have led to delays in getting help to those most in need. “I have witnessed with my own eyes, FEMA and state assistance on the ground but due to communication issues I can’t tell you to what degree they are here. I can’t reach my own police officers and firefighters unless I see them in person at the station and town hall,” he said.

We need Starlink emergency receivers and transformers and other electric infrastructure gear.

👴👩‍🦱 "Sorry - you're Americans.  We need your tax money to send to other countries like Ukraine, and we also have send the transformers and communication equipment to Ukraine as well.  But FEMA will be handing out the equivalent of 24000 THB to people whose homes are destroyed, but only if you really really really need it.  Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan really really really need US money and emergency supplies more than you peons.  Tread water - it's good for you...it builds character. 
What?  Why isn't Joe Biden here to support you.  Come on man! He's at the beach.  He's busy and needs his downtime and naps, and Kamala needs to campaign.  Sorry, no time for you American commoners.  Suck it up cupcakes!

[connda]

3 hours ago, morrobay said:

FEMA is under funded.

Obvious misinformation.

[morrobay]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope.

 

It's because of Republicans in Congress.

 

You know, the ones who voted against FEMA funding two days before the hurricane hit.

All the mumbo jumbo in the world ain't going to change the facts about this Biden/Harris horror show of an administration.https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/feds-say-theres-no-money-left-to-respond-to-hurricanes-after-fema-used-640-9m-this-year-on-migrants/

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, morrobay said:

All the mumbo jumbo in the world ain't going to change the facts about this Biden/Harris horror show of an administration.https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/feds-say-theres-no-money-left-to-respond-to-hurricanes-after-fema-used-640-9m-this-year-on-migrants/

Let's just say you don't have a firm grasp on the Federal budget process.

[300sd]

On 10/1/2024 at 5:45 AM, Social Media said:

Thousands of U.S. National Guard members have been deployed to assist with recovery efforts across the East Coast.

Hmmm. That's interesting:

https://yournews.com/2024/10/03/2860817/report-north-carolina-governor-delays-deployment-of-1000-troops-approved/

And so is this:

https://yournews.com/2024/10/03/2860724/america-last-fema-allocates-1-billion-to-migrant-resettlement-under/

 

 

[John Drake]

Fiasco. Clear failure on the part of the administration and FEMA. Redirecting FEMA funds to settling "paroled" migrants and so-called asylum seekers should result in people going to jail.

[Eric Loh]

46 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Fiasco. Clear failure on the part of the administration and FEMA. Redirecting FEMA funds to settling "paroled" migrants and so-called asylum seekers should result in people going to jail.

The practice of using federal disaster funds to address the needs of migrants is not unprecedented. Trump's administration redirected $271 million in disaster relief funding to pay for the creation of migrant detention centers and temporary asylum processing centers.  

 

[John Drake]

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The practice of using federal disaster funds to address the needs of migrants is not unprecedented. Trump's administration redirected $271 million in disaster relief funding to pay for the creation of migrant detention centers and temporary asylum processing centers.  

 

 

Big <deleted> deal. Hundreds dead, starving, and dying and you come up with that utterly useless <deleted>.

[Eric Loh]

3 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Big <deleted> deal. Hundreds dead, starving, and dying and you come up with that utterly useless <deleted>.

Bear with me. Mike Johnson failed to significantly increase FEMA's funding in his stopgap bill to avoid the government shutdown. Will he able to re-convene the House for emergency spending to help in the devasting Hurricane aftermath. Will see if he is up to the task or he will again take orders from Trump and use the disaster politically to help his election.  

[morrobay]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Bear with me. Mike Johnson failed to significantly increase FEMA's funding in his stopgap bill to avoid the government shutdown. Will he able to re-convene the House for emergency spending to help in the devasting Hurricane aftermath. Will see if he is up to the task or he will again take orders from Trump and use the disaster politically to help his election.  

How many times does it take,,,?? These ,"stop gaps" " emergency spending" would not even be necessary had FEMA been properly funded In the first place. Sans billions down this Ukraine rat hole. That would not have occurred with Trump. And 151 billion dollars on these illegal immigrants yearly. Again would not have occurred with Trump

Just a barrel of laughs isn't it 

 

 

Edited October 4 by morrobay

[mikebike]

2 minutes ago, morrobay said:

How many times does it take,,,?? These ,"stop gaps" " emergency spending" would not even be necessary had FEMA been properly funded In the first place. Sans billions down this Ukraine rat hole. That would not have occurred with Trump. And 151 billion dollars on these illegal immigrants yearly. Again would not have occurred with Trump

 

 

Nice conflation of talking points, but 45 is in favour of BOTH eliminating FEMA AND giving eastern Europe to Putin.

[Eric Loh]

48 minutes ago, morrobay said:

How many times does it take,,,?? These ,"stop gaps" " emergency spending" would not even be necessary had FEMA been properly funded In the first place. Sans billions down this Ukraine rat hole. That would not have occurred with Trump. And 151 billion dollars on these illegal immigrants yearly. Again would not have occurred with Trump

Just a barrel of laughs isn't it 

 

 

The Ukraine aids are military hardwares. Don’t think FEMA has any use for that. 

[metisdead]

An off topic deflection post about the Puerto Rico hurricane in 2019 has been removed as this topic is about:

 

Aftermath of Hurricane Helene: Power Outages, Rescue Efforts, and Rising Death Toll

[morrobay]

19 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Big <deleted> deal. Hundreds dead, starving, and dying and you come up with that utterly useless <deleted>.

Like myself, you may as well give up with replying to these people with facts. Talk about talking to a wall. All  they got is this endless irevallent mumbo jumbo . 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/1/2024 at 11:45 AM, Social Media said:

"We are facing search and rescue and recovery from a storm in 2024 with 1990s technology. At best,” Smathers told CNN. He emphasized the impact of the communication breakdown, saying, “The number one issue is lack of communication...we lost all cellular communications...and it has crippled every aspect of our ability to respond and to recover.”

The stupidity of over reliance on modern technology, which can fail for a great many reasons, just one of which is the example here.

How difficult was it to envisage such a situation and keep technology that works available in sufficient amounts? Too difficult, apparently.

On 10/1/2024 at 11:45 AM, Social Media said:

Thousands of U.S. National Guard members have been deployed to assist with recovery efforts across the East Coast. Sabrina Singh, the Pentagon’s deputy press secretary, confirmed that personnel from multiple states have been dispatched to help with search and rescue, route clearance, and other essential tasks.

The military have radio technology that doesn't depend on cell towers, so why are they not being used to counter the communication problem? Too difficult?