Spreaders of Conspiracy Theories: Unmasking the Motivations Behind the Lies

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You mean like Biden's senile, the laptop is Hunter's and there are vaccine side effects?

 

I could rattle off a hundred more, just from the past few years.  But you'd have to hold your nose and click on some non-approved sources to get wind of them.

 

Notice the furore about Harris has diverted people's attention from the laptop, and why a man that was incapable of standing again for POTUS is still POTUS.

 

Classic case of look over here while doing nefarious things over there.

[thaibeachlovers]

23 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

And yet none of the promoters of the controlled demolition claims have been able to demonstrate how it was achieved or can even  demonstrate the events they claim. There is a reason why the orders and societies of professionals  like architects, engineers and chemists reject your claims and it is  based on scientific fact.

 

For anyone familiar with demolition by explosive ( there have been umpteen VDOs about it out there ), there is a pattern of collapse that is IMO unmistakable. If it just fell over the sequence of collapsing would be very different.

 

Has anyone a better explanation of why it fell straight down, rather than sideways?

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How about the 2020 election was stolen?

Pizza Gate?

 

How about 2016 election was a Russian plot?

 

How about Trump is Hitler

[impulse]

34 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I saw it and I agree that it was a controlled demolition. I just don't know why they would do it.

 

Rummy explained it.  Sleight of hand...  To divert attention from $4 Trillion missing Pentagon dollars.

 

[bradiston]

50 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How shallow. And Wikpedia, heavens. God forbid you read a book.

 

I guess you arent familiar with what the National Socialist platform was. Nor Leninism and Stalinism.

Why don't you read the Wikipedia article? Hypertext (as in HTML, right?) is extremely useful for following links, sources, updates, questionable entries etc etc. You don't get that from your Right Wing hand book for arguing on public forums, or Trolling for Beginners, or Ignorance, where do I sign up handbook, now do you?

 

The Wikipedia article on the Nazi party strangely enough does go into that, but because you refuse to read any "leftist, woke, libtard" links, you'll never know. So what books do you recommend I read? Nazism 101? Stalinism for beginners? How I learned to love Lenin and never look back?

 

The National Socialist party was set up to counter the Marxist Leninism version of socialism. Even though Russia and Germany were allies at the outset of WWII (the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact was a non aggression pact they invaded Poland), it didn't last long, when Hitler decided to invade Russia. Nazis and communists (Marxist Leninists) ripped each other to shreds later, quite literally. They remain to this day sworn enemies.

[Chomper Higgot]

38 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How about 2016 election was a Russian plot?

 

How about Trump is Hitler

The 2016 election was scheduled according to the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

 

What conspiracy turns Trump into Hitler?

[bradiston]

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The 2016 election was scheduled according to the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

 

What conspiracy turns Trump into Hitler?

I read it as heavily ironic, not to be taken literally!

[johng]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Has anyone a better explanation of why it fell straight down, rather than sideways?

 

we all await     but in the meantime perhaps have a look here

https://ic911.org/

[johng]

37 minutes ago, bradiston said:

not to be taken literally!

So trump is not literally Hitler ? 

what to call those comparing him literally to Hitler......

conspiracy theorists ?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, johng said:

So trump is not literally Hitler ? 

what to call those comparing him literally to Hitler......

conspiracy theorists ?

I would call them observant.

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, johng said:

So trump is not literally Hitler ? 

what to call those comparing him literally to Hitler......

conspiracy theorists ?

Comparing him literally? Explain!

[johng]

6 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Comparing him literally? Explain!

I'm sure you are intelligent enough to work it out for yourself ?   but just a hint refer to the post directly above yours in this very thread.

[bradiston]

10 minutes ago, johng said:

I'm sure you are intelligent enough to work it out for yourself ?   but just a hint refer to the post directly above yours in this very thread.

I replied to the reply to that one. My comment was addressed to you. Comparing him literally as opposed to comparing him what? Roughly? Vaguely? Allegorically? Indirectly? Approximately?

[johng]

17 minutes ago, bradiston said:

My comment was addressed to you. Comparing him literally as opposed to comparing him what? Roughly? Vaguely? Allegorically? Indirectly? Approximately?

I have not referred to him as Hilter  others have on many occasions

literally, roughly, vaguely, allegorically,indirectly and approximately

tried to tie Trump to Hitler  I suggested we call those persons "conspiracy theorist"

[save the frogs]

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

How about 2016 election was a Russian plot?

 

How about Trump is Hitler

 

that's the point. 

people mix all sorts of silly conspiracies with real ones, so people think all conspiracies are nonsense. 

some conspiracies are silly nonsense.

but some conspiracies that seem crazy are true.

 

[save the frogs]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Rummy explained it.  Sleight of hand...  To divert attention from $4 Trillion missing Pentagon dollars.

 

to justify war in IRAQ

 

Bin Laden = actor hired by the CIA 

 

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, johng said:

I have not referred to him as Hilter  others have on many occasions

literally, roughly, vaguely, allegorically,indirectly and approximately

tried to tie Trump to Hitler  I suggested we call those persons "conspiracy theorist"

Point taken. He's obviously not Hitler, at least not the last time I checked. But his rants about immigrants being a subspecies - Hitler's phrase was "untermensch" - and somehow genetically infected/inferior, are Hitlerian.  If Trump was talking about Jews in this language, I would be very surprised if his phone didn't blow off his other ear. He'd be arrested for racially motivated hate speech. I posted a link to a source that ran a piece on his ravings. It was on Al Jazeera.

 

https://aje.io/4rx0oj

Edited October 8 by bradiston

[bradiston]

33 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Point taken. He's obviously not Hitler, at least not the last time I checked. But his rants about immigrants being a subspecies - Hitler's phrase was "untermensch" - and somehow genetically infected/inferior, are Hitlerian.  If Trump was talking about Jews in this language, I would be very surprised if his phone didn't blow off his other ear. He'd be arrested for racially motivated hate speech. I posted a link to a source that ran a piece on his ravings. It was on Al Jazeera.

 

https://aje.io/4rx0oj

Wrong link.

 

https://aje.io/3o3vl9

[Evil Penevil]

 

9 hours ago, bradiston said:

 It's Arabs and Muslims who have borne the brunt of hate crimes since October 7th, just as they did after 9/11. T

 

No, you are mistaken.  There are far more hate crimes aimed at Jews compared to Arabs amd Muslims in the U.S.  

 

"The following data about anti-Jewish and religiously-biased hate crimes in the United States has been excerpted from the annual Report on Hate Crimes released by the Uniform Crime Reporting Program of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

The data for 2023 came from 16,009 law enforcement agencies. The totals show 11,862 hate crime incidents involving 13,829 related offenses were reported, affecting 13,857 victims. Incidents of religious bias represented 24% of the total – 2,699 incidents and 2,967 offenses affecting 3,121 victims. The largest categories of religion included:

• Anti-Jewish incidents: 68%
• Anti-Islamic incidents: 9%
• Anti-Sikh incidents: 5%
• Anti-Catholic incidents: 3%

Overall, 14% of all victims are Jews, and 66% of all religious hate crime victims are Jews."    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/statistics-on-religious-hate-crimes

 

A section of the chart  on antisemitic hate crimes:

 

 

Keep in mind there are an estimated 5.8 million Jews in the U.S., or 2.4% of the U.S. population.  On a proportional basis, Jews are twice as likely to experience a hate crime than Blacks.  It's also important to note that most hate crimes directed towars Jews are crimes against property, such as swastikas painted on synagogues or homes. The inverted triangle is a symbol used to mark prisoners in Nazi concentration camps and has been adopted by Hamas to mark Jewish targets.  Pro-Palestinian groups in the U.S. use it as well.

 

 

However,  Jews who wear clothing that makes them "visibly Jewish,"  whether a skullcap (kippa, yarmulke) or full ultra orthodox dress, have increasingly become the targets of physical violence,especially in NYC.

 

8 hours ago, bradiston said:

The Jews were being given a hard time in Europe since way back when - the 14th century? 

 

It goes back further than that:

 

"In the first millennium of the Christian era, leaders in the European Christian (Catholic) hierarchy developed or solidified as doctrine ideas that: all Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Christ; the destruction of the Temple by the Romans and the scattering of the Jewish people was punishment both for past transgressions and for continued failure to abandon their faith and accept Christianity.  In the tenth and eleventh centuries, these doctrines about Jews were hardened ..."     https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/antisemitism-in-history-from-the-early-church-to-1400

[bradiston]

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

 

No, you are mistaken.  There are far more hate crimes aimed at Jews compared to Arabs amd Muslims in the U.S.  

 

"The following data about anti-Jewish and religiously-biased hate crimes in the United States has been excerpted from the annual Report on Hate Crimes released by the Uniform Crime Reporting Program of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

The data for 2023 came from 16,009 law enforcement agencies. The totals show 11,862 hate crime incidents involving 13,829 related offenses were reported, affecting 13,857 victims. Incidents of religious bias represented 24% of the total – 2,699 incidents and 2,967 offenses affecting 3,121 victims. The largest categories of religion included:

• Anti-Jewish incidents: 68%
• Anti-Islamic incidents: 9%
• Anti-Sikh incidents: 5%
• Anti-Catholic incidents: 3%

Overall, 14% of all victims are Jews, and 66% of all religious hate crime victims are Jews."    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/statistics-on-religious-hate-crimes

 

A section of the chart  on antisemitic hate crimes:

 

 

Keep in mind there are an estimated 5.8 million Jews in the U.S., or 2.4% of the U.S. population.  On a proportional basis, Jews are twice as likely to experience a hate crime than Blacks.  It's also important to note that most hate crimes directed towars Jews are crimes against property, such as swastikas painted on synagogues or homes. The inverted triangle is a symbol used to mark prisoners in Nazi concentration camps and has been adopted by Hamas to mark Jewish targets.  Pro-Palestinian groups in the U.S. use it as well.

 

 

However,  Jews who wear clothing that makes them "visibly Jewish,"  whether a skullcap (kippa, yarmulke) or full ultra orthodox dress, have increasingly become the targets of physical violence,especially in NYC.

 

 

It goes back further than that:

 

"In the first millennium of the Christian era, leaders in the European Christian (Catholic) hierarchy developed or solidified as doctrine ideas that: all Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Christ; the destruction of the Temple by the Romans and the scattering of the Jewish people was punishment both for past transgressions and for continued failure to abandon their faith and accept Christianity.  In the tenth and eleventh centuries, these doctrines about Jews were hardened ..."     https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/antisemitism-in-history-from-the-early-church-to-1400

I said since October 7th, right?

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Rummy explained it.  Sleight of hand...  To divert attention from $4 Trillion missing Pentagon dollars.

 

That's as good an explanation as any, but that would also require the perpetrators to know exactly when the planes would hit the towers.

[Patong2021]

18 hours ago, johng said:

Rubbish  he published information obtained by whistle blowers  exposing horrendous crimes  that governments tried to suppress...he paid a hefty price  for his audacity  as did the "freedom of the press"

 He was not and has never been a journalist. He was a hacker who made his living from hacking. It was only after repeated run ins with the law and his cyber crime conviction that he transitioned to publishing stolen data.

[Patong2021]

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I saw it and I agree that it was a controlled demolition. I just don't know why they would do it.

 

Wanting to believe in a controlled demolition does not mean that it occurred. There is no substantive evidence to support the the likelihood of  such an event.

[Yagoda]

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I would call them observant.

I would call them obsessed and deranged

[TroubleandGrumpy]

On 10/7/2024 at 6:35 PM, frank83628 said:

Trump was taking the piss, if you had any sense of humour you might have known that. there was an obvious satirical AI image of swift endorsing him, the media ran with a lie and as usual you guys lapped every single bit of it up, your hatred of Trump is so much that you will happily believe everything you read about him.

here  are the images, do you think if Swift had actually endorsed him he would have just said 'i accept'?

you don't think he would have made a speech or formal post about it and thanked her?? 
gullible is politest word i san say here, surely you have more brains that this

No they dont (have more brains than this).

They believe any MSM lies/distortion about Trump - because they need to hate him.

I read somewhere that many of them have 'Daddy Issues'. 

[bradiston]

On 10/7/2024 at 2:14 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

He didn’t not hand himself in, he absconded and hid.

 

There is no right to not answer a court summons and hence that was another law he broke.

 

 

Why are you grinding this axe? What's the point? This parrot is dead. It is no more. It has passed on. Assange is free.

[bradiston]

23 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

No they dont (have more brains than this).

They believe any MSM lies/distortion about Trump - because they need to hate him.

I read somewhere that many of them have 'Daddy Issues'. 

You read somewhere? I read somewhere that all Trump supporters are ESN with IQs of less than 50. Can't remember where I read it. Probably on non MSM, if that exists for the toxic majority of Trump supporters.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

3 minutes ago, bradiston said:

You read somewhere? I read somewhere that all Trump supporters are ESN with IQs of less than 50. Can't remember where I read it. Probably on non MSM, if that exists for the toxic majority of Trump supporters.

Like I said - Daddy Issues.

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Wanting to believe in a controlled demolition does not mean that it occurred. There is no substantive evidence to support the the likelihood of  such an event.

Oh, there isn't?  https://www.ae911truth.org/

[Dcheech]

On 10/7/2024 at 6:35 PM, frank83628 said:

Trump was taking the piss,

Get your cultures straight.

Taking the piss is a Brit thing, it goes over like dead donkey in the USA. Newscasters featured it in the US, as yet another instant of Trump being not just a liar, which everyone already knows, but a tasteless a-shoIe of a liar.