Scottish Tourist on Cannabis, Suffers Hallucinations & Causes Public Disturbance: Pattaya

[Liquorice]

5 hours ago, Rob Browder said:

There is no "been here too much" legal-reason for denial. 

Immigration have published guidelines which include refusal of entry for repeat VE entries.
If they consider the purpose of your visit is not solely for tourism purposes, they can refuse entry.

[Yagoda]

On 10/13/2024 at 9:47 AM, NanLaew said:

Correct. The basic biodata of name and date of birth will reveal one's entire immigration record and previous passports.

However.

 

I came in on a Temporary US Passport earlier this year, and they wanted to also see my Invalid (hole punched) passport which I conveniently brought. They looked at my prior visas and extensions. 1 minute. Have a good time.

[raz0r21]

lets summarize this then:

 

• There should be no problem entering visa exempt for OP after being out of Thailand for 4 months.
• Having a Tourist Visa would improve odds considerably.
• A new passport will probably not have any effect (but it could, since the IO would not have to scroll through several pages of stamps and start to get concerned).
• To guarantee entry, there are several services available (for a price).

• With any questions on arrival it's a good idea to have clear itinerary, accommodation, 20k baht cash etc.

• Airline at departure may/will require proof of onward flight.

• If denied entry, there is a chance that you could be sent to a neighboring country (if you are guaranteed entry in said country). In other cases, you will be sent home to your home country at your own expense.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, raz0r21 said:

lets summarize this then:

Pretty good summary. Not so much 

your last point. The norm would be flown back to where you departed or passport country. 

[Liquorice]

44 minutes ago, raz0r21 said:

Airline at departure may/will require proof of onward flight.

I'd just add that for that onward flight to be of any use if entry we're denied, ensure that flight departs from the same airport you land at.

[Bvor]

2 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Immigration have published guidelines which include refusal of entry for repeat VE entries.

Guidelines following MFA 60 day visa exempt implementation?.............please provide link. 

[Liquorice]

2 hours ago, Bvor said:

Guidelines following MFA 60 day visa exempt implementation?.............please provide link. 

Immigration guidelines for VE entries.
The fact it's now 60 day entries and not 30 days doesn't change the guidelines.
It's a PDF file, which can't be posted.

 

MFA are not responsible for Immigration entries and internal affairs.

Edited 3 hours ago by Liquorice

[transam]

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

As I pointed out in my first reply you should not have an issue entering visa exempt given you have been out of Thailand for few months.

Then what for next semi extended stay after that? 

Thailand provides options (too many in my book) .....you can obtain a METV that provides a stay up to 9 months. Granted need to bounce every 60/90 days..

Sweet deal. 

Why is it "Too many in your book"...?  🤔

[Bvor]

27 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

It's a PDF file, which can't be posted.

Yes I acknowledge  the immigration,MFA, foreign embassy disconnect............... where can I find this PDF file?

I am trying to prepare myself for possible IO interrogation re "not a tourist too many visits"  I do have many years of successful TR's and VE's.  Going forward I want to holiday 6 x 30 days (minus 1 day  = 179 days) per calender year. the rest of the time I spend in Oz where I am an old age pensioner with house, car, family - none of which I have in Thailand cos I not want to live/work in LOS. Non O retirement is an overkill for me and  tying up 800,000 in a Thai bank I lose 44,000 baht Oz bank interest. As the title would seem to suggest the  Multi Entry Tourist Visa appears the" logical " visa in my circumstances ie 6 holiday visits per year - but there are reports of IO problems re "not a tourist too many visits". It would appear that I am at the mercy of IO lucky dip as to whether or not they override approved embassy evisa.

Any thoughts re my dilemma. 

 

[DrJack54]

26 minutes ago, Bvor said:

As the title would seem to suggest the  Multi Entry Tourist Visa appears the" logical " visa in my circumstances ie 6 holiday visits per year - but there are reports of IO problems re "not a tourist too many visits". It would appear that I am at the mercy of IO lucky dip as to whether or not they override approved embassy evisa.

Any thoughts re my dilemma. 

Indeed the METV would be good fit for you. You could achieve the 6 months and would have zero issues.

Especially and you want to limit time per year in Thailand to under 6 months. 

Where you are located in Thailand comes into play sightly as you do require exits from Thailand every 2 months or 3 with an extension. 

[Rob Browder]

8 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Immigration have published guidelines which include refusal of entry for repeat VE entries.
If they consider the purpose of your visit is not solely for tourism purposes, they can refuse entry.

I haven't seen a passport with "not entering for tourist purposes" stamped in it as the reason for denial of entry.  They have also done this routine to those with Tourist-Visas.  Also, "tourist" is not defined.  If they set some solid criteria for "tourist," then fine - so everyone can plan accordingly - X time in Y months, or whatever. 

Instead, there is no consistency, which creates fear, which just "coincidentally" markets agent-services which benefit them - and they ONLY do this where the agent-services are needed to bypass it.

[Rob Browder]

6 hours ago, raz0r21 said:

There should be no problem entering visa exempt for OP after being out of Thailand for 4 months.

Agree - except this one - if one stayed for long periods, prior.  If, for example, one was here throughout Covid on covid-extensions, they seem to really hate that.  Why?  There were few jobs available then - no "illegal tour guide" opportunities and such - so it's not that they think they were "working illegally."

But, for a year+ the IOs had to live on their salary-income only - no doubt resulting in the loss of fancy cars, angry mia nois, etc.  Hence, great resentment that those farangs "Got Away with living in Thailand ALL that time!"